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Why would you even WANT to copy the Parisienne look?

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GoldfishParade · 15/12/2020 05:56

Just think it's interesting when you see threads but also newspaper articles etc about the "French" look and specifically the Parisian look - a kind of understated elegant style, I get it.

But honestly, having lived in France for a decade now (in six cities in different regions) I really think this is a bit of a misplaced myth, in the same way that in France in some crowds there can be a bit of glamourising around "le gentleman so British". Sure, when you're in london you may very occasionally see some really dapper looking men wearing those big beige overcoats (what are they called by the way? The big flappy things they wear over suits? Like a kind of trench coat?).

But by and large whenever I go back to the UK I genuinely find British women dress better, with more snap, in outfits that have more interest. What I've learnt from my time here is that the whole understated elegance thing doesnt necessarily stem from wanting to look effortless, it's actually about not wanting to stand out from the crowd. I remember a friend asking me if I thought her shoes were too "m'as tu vu" (flashy). They just weren't black. In fact you barely ever see coats here that arent black, grey, or beige. Teenagers basically look no different from their parents. Fashion doesnt really happen at all. I think in the 10 years I've been here nothing has really changed, its still jeans, delicate trainers, a Longchamp handbag and a trench, just like Mum. Maybe the jeans got slightly wider lately; that's all.

It always seems to me theres some fabulous styled women in the UK, "even" outside London. I see "even" because outside of Paris, in the French "provinces" thing start to go downhill quite rapidly IMO.

So why does the French thing continue to inspire? I honestly think in the UK you are freer to experiment, you have more choice, and people by and large look pretty rocking. Maybe the trend for heavy makeup could be toned down a bit, also the fillers trend (from what I'm reading) in the UK is a bit shocking.

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StCharlotte · 16/12/2020 09:52

@Divebar

Our Surrey High Street

Ooh! Well it’s clearly not my Surrey High Street.... ( I have the charity shops that turned up Vivienne Westwood shoes and a Jean Muir skirt). May I ask are you inside or outside the M25? @StCharlotte - although to be fair I wouldn’t know what to buy.

Inside. Just.
LeGrandBleu · 16/12/2020 09:57

Very interesting reading.

MarshaBradyo · 16/12/2020 09:57

My dgm was French and my dm learnt French cooking from her. In a part of the world that has excellent produce. The combination is worth travelling for.

But there was the idea that you could only cook the food as it should be if it was your nationality. Also English so interspersed with bacon and eggs, roasts and spaghetti bolognaise (which I kind of see as U.K. staple)

DazzlePaintedBattlePants · 16/12/2020 10:09

As an aside, I thought it was Puffa jackets, with puffa becoming generelic (in the manner of hoover) after the original equestrian Puffa jacket?

stella1know · 16/12/2020 11:17

The only chic women I saw in Paris were the Africans and the Orientals. Hmm

Hmmm are we still in the 1950s? Many Parisian women may have an ethnic heritage too ffs. There are Black Parisians and many with an Indo-Chine heritage. That doesn’t make them not French.
Shows one of the key problems of the “femme parisienne” look - it sets exclusionary stereotypes. If you are fat//short/dark haired/dark skinned (god forbid Hmm) or more elaborately dressed, you are out, or “African” and aren’t classified as a Parisian.

stella1know · 16/12/2020 11:18

That was for @Deathraystare

Divebar · 16/12/2020 12:27

@StCharlotte

Then I’m close... I shall peruse the surrounding towns.

StCharlotte · 16/12/2020 12:52

[quote Divebar]**@StCharlotte

Then I’m close... I shall peruse the surrounding towns.[/quote]
J.6 Wink

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2020 13:01

"Really? Have you been to the Weatherspoons or the carveries?

Yes, and I'd take either over some fucking awful Sports Bar - food wise, anyway "

Is that the equivalent of a pub in France? Couldn't you say a simple cafe would be the equivalent. It's a while since I've spent a long time in France so I'm not familiar with these sports bars. Food must be really awful.

emma6776 · 16/12/2020 14:42

I’d love to know where in the UK has a dearth of Mexican food? Both the large city in Scotland I now live & the small town in NE England that I’m from have a good choice of Mexican restaurants. I’d agree with the pp who said it’s common for Brits to cook a range of food from various countries on a regular basis - we do this & we’re certainly not unusual within our friendship group (early 40’s, mainly what used to be described as upper working class backgrounds).

HundredMilesAnHour · 16/12/2020 14:58

Curry, yes, but Mexican? It's only very recently arrived in restaurants in the UK.

Mexican has only recently arrived in the UK? Have you been living under a rock for the last 3 decades??!!

TheySeeHerRowling · 16/12/2020 15:14

I used to enjoy frequenting a Mexican restaurant as a student in the late 80s

Before that, we would often cook a chilli con carne at home, and I distinctly recall my mum bringing a bag of tortilla chips (which we pronounced tor-tiller) from Pricerights in about 1979 - we hated them Grin But love them now!

Mind you, I didn't eat an avocado until I was well into my twenties

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2020 15:42

"I’d love to know where in the UK has a dearth of Mexican food? "

I said it was relatively recent.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/12/2020 15:44

@TheySeeHerRowling

I used to enjoy frequenting a Mexican restaurant as a student in the late 80s

Before that, we would often cook a chilli con carne at home, and I distinctly recall my mum bringing a bag of tortilla chips (which we pronounced tor-tiller) from Pricerights in about 1979 - we hated them Grin But love them now!

Mind you, I didn't eat an avocado until I was well into my twenties

Well I'm obviously behind the times, but I'd be quite surprised if I was at a friend's house and they said 'do you want to stay for dinner, it's Mexican'. Chile con carne, yes, but the other stuff I've only seen in restaurants. When I lived in a city of around 300k people there were one or two Mexican restaurants and there weren't any around when I was a student in the late 90s.
Blondiney · 16/12/2020 19:07

I've been cooking fajitas since about 1997. Grin

lazylinguist · 16/12/2020 20:09

Well I'm obviously behind the times, but I'd be quite surprised if I was at a friend's house and they said 'do you want to stay for dinner, it's Mexican'. Chile con carne, yes, but the other stuff I've only seen in restaurants.

Really?! Burritos, fajitas, tacos, enchiladas and quesadillas are pretty standard fare for a lot of people I think. Plus sides like nachos, guacamole etc.

Worriednow77 · 16/12/2020 20:12

@Gwenhwyfar Really?!!!

Divebar · 16/12/2020 20:31

I think I can remember having crappy Mexican food in one of those chains about 30 years ago.... probably no cliche unturned. Even when Wahaca came in in 2007 I was fairly unmoved ( barring the Churros). Now Burritos have their own outlets. It’s not as popular as the US though where every other food truck does tacos. ( unsurprisingly)

workwearadvice · 16/12/2020 20:41

Everyone is different but I guess it depends on style.

I am not particularly individual and dress in all black or grey, some navy. Very little colour or anything that would make me stand out. For those reasons I love the French look. They do that but with much more style!

Gwenhwyfar · 17/12/2020 12:22

[quote Worriednow77]@Gwenhwyfar Really?!!![/quote]
Yes! (Although not nachos, i seem them as completely normal).

LongHotSummerJustPassedMeBy · 17/12/2020 13:09

I started eating Mexican food after a trip to the USA in the 1990s on a ‘Taco Bell’ budget.Smile

Gwenhwyfar · 17/12/2020 16:30

@Blondiney

I've been cooking fajitas since about 1997. Grin
Guess I'm just a country bumpkin.
Janegrey333 · 17/12/2020 17:00

@stella1know

The only chic women I saw in Paris were the Africans and the Orientals. Hmm

Hmmm are we still in the 1950s? Many Parisian women may have an ethnic heritage too ffs. There are Black Parisians and many with an Indo-Chine heritage. That doesn’t make them not French.
Shows one of the key problems of the “femme parisienne” look - it sets exclusionary stereotypes. If you are fat//short/dark haired/dark skinned (god forbid Hmm) or more elaborately dressed, you are out, or “African” and aren’t classified as a Parisian.

dark haired

The majority are brunettes. There seem to be fewer blondes.

Janegrey333 · 17/12/2020 17:05

A trench from Primark won't fall the way a Michael Kors one does, for example.

Isn’t Michael Kors looked down on?

Plussizejumpsuit · 17/12/2020 17:20

I agree with you but then my favourite colour is neon pink and I love metallic /holographic!