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Why would you even WANT to copy the Parisienne look?

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GoldfishParade · 15/12/2020 05:56

Just think it's interesting when you see threads but also newspaper articles etc about the "French" look and specifically the Parisian look - a kind of understated elegant style, I get it.

But honestly, having lived in France for a decade now (in six cities in different regions) I really think this is a bit of a misplaced myth, in the same way that in France in some crowds there can be a bit of glamourising around "le gentleman so British". Sure, when you're in london you may very occasionally see some really dapper looking men wearing those big beige overcoats (what are they called by the way? The big flappy things they wear over suits? Like a kind of trench coat?).

But by and large whenever I go back to the UK I genuinely find British women dress better, with more snap, in outfits that have more interest. What I've learnt from my time here is that the whole understated elegance thing doesnt necessarily stem from wanting to look effortless, it's actually about not wanting to stand out from the crowd. I remember a friend asking me if I thought her shoes were too "m'as tu vu" (flashy). They just weren't black. In fact you barely ever see coats here that arent black, grey, or beige. Teenagers basically look no different from their parents. Fashion doesnt really happen at all. I think in the 10 years I've been here nothing has really changed, its still jeans, delicate trainers, a Longchamp handbag and a trench, just like Mum. Maybe the jeans got slightly wider lately; that's all.

It always seems to me theres some fabulous styled women in the UK, "even" outside London. I see "even" because outside of Paris, in the French "provinces" thing start to go downhill quite rapidly IMO.

So why does the French thing continue to inspire? I honestly think in the UK you are freer to experiment, you have more choice, and people by and large look pretty rocking. Maybe the trend for heavy makeup could be toned down a bit, also the fillers trend (from what I'm reading) in the UK is a bit shocking.

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Harriedharriet · 15/12/2020 06:14

I love a bit of real French chic but on the whole agree with you that London is very hard to beat when it gets it right. In my opinion the Italians and French will never do "ugly". The Brits will, and in that there is a lot of courage, a lot of creativity and a lot of energy. When it works it is amazing to behold.
However - I have also seen some of the most TRAGIC presentations of self there aswell, very uncomfortable to observe.

Clockstop · 15/12/2020 06:19

I did a lot of french exchanges in the late 90s when it was all naff naff jackets Grin

GoldfishParade · 15/12/2020 06:25

@Harriedharriet
Interesting what do you mean by "However - I have also seen some of the most TRAGIC presentations of self there aswell, very uncomfortable to observe." In the UK or France?

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CountFosco · 15/12/2020 06:31

However - I have also seen some of the most TRAGIC presentations of self there aswell, very uncomfortable to observe.

What makes British fashion a joy is the ability by and large to say fuck that to this judgement.

Harriedharriet · 15/12/2020 06:32

UK.

Harriedharriet · 15/12/2020 06:33

@CountFosco

However - I have also seen some of the most TRAGIC presentations of self there aswell, very uncomfortable to observe.

What makes British fashion a joy is the ability by and large to say fuck that to this judgement.

Agreed, as I said in my post.
Jemenfouscompletement · 15/12/2020 06:44

I've lived in France for 20 years in the provinces and haven't noticed a lot of elegance or chic in the way most people dress. People have got considerably fatter and dress for comfort rather than style now. I can still spot an English person, it isn't just the clothes, it is the physical appearance and facial expressions too, DH (French) notices it too.
British women definitely wear more make-up, as stated by other posters French women are more reserved in their appearance and if they make a lot of effort it is for understated elegance. No orange tan, big slug eyebrows, over straightened hair or really short skirts that I've noticed....yet!

Whatthefudgecake · 15/12/2020 06:49

I agree. When I lived in France I found the fashion very boring. Everyone dressed the same (in black mostly or plain colours). All women had identical shoulder length hair cuts dyed dark brown or black. No one ever dressed up or wore heels or different patterns/bright colours. I bought a lovely red coat in a charity shop in England during a visit home and lots of people commented on my "new French style" and how nice it looked - nope! It was not at all French! None of the women I knew in France would have been seen dead in it. I much prefer the style over here although I lived in France years ago so perhaps it's changed.

Divebar · 15/12/2020 06:52

I find the whole adulation of the French look a bit tedious. ( I have absolutely no expertise to comment just what I see in magazines). It’s very very safe. Even pictures of “ the girls from French vogue” the women are little clones of each other. I wouldn’t say that the British dress better at all but there is freedom to experiment at least. Even if I think of the school mums that I see they have a variety of looks. I enjoy switching my outfits up - one day in oversized and trainers and the next in something more classic. I would be bored to death getting up and putting on my ‘uniform however chic it was. However if you don’t really want to experiment or deviate from one look then the French look probably works quite well in a variety of settings without standing out. I think you could probably adapt it to honour British heritage though and that would be fun - a classic Harris tweed jacket for example. That could be fun ( now I’m off to consider a British version of a classic French look 😁)

Divebar · 15/12/2020 06:54

No orange tan, big slug eyebrows, over straightened hair or really short skirts that I've noticed....yet!

I haven’t noticed much of this in my part of the South East.

PillowPrincess · 15/12/2020 06:57

French aren't all that I like Spanish styles.
Wander off central Paris and the style is for comfort, fleeces, classic jeans, body warmers...nothing special.

Melange99 · 15/12/2020 06:57

I think the Italians are more chic than the French. Apart from when they go a bit overblown (Nancy Dell'Olelo - spelling? Or Versace etc). French style seems sterile.

Floisme · 15/12/2020 07:10

I post on the thread in question - why don't you drop in and ask?

Personality I don't look remotely French but we talk about all kinds of stuff. Several regular posters don't live in the UK and it's interesting to get a more European perspective on things, and also to see liinks that aren't from the UK high street.

And while I might agree that, beyond a few square miles, Parisienne style is a bit of a myth, I think the same can be said for UK originality - we've been living off that myth for just as long as the French.

SwedishK · 15/12/2020 07:19

@Divebar

No orange tan, big slug eyebrows, over straightened hair or really short skirts that I've noticed....yet!

I haven’t noticed much of this in my part of the South East.

They are all over the north west where I live. You can have some of them if you like...
MarshaBradyo · 15/12/2020 07:23

In Paris some former look incredible and yes effortlessly so. Enough to take my attention.

Not everyone but then walking around London you get very mixed looks

The other city I felt was noticeably different was Milan. Men and women with good sartorial choices

newstart1234 · 15/12/2020 07:35

I was saying to my DH this same point but about scandi style around where we live. The overwhelmingly dominant style I think looks like over grown girl toddler dresses. It looks nice at first glance but a bit ‘off’, and then you realise it’s because the dresses are so infantile on grown woman! Plus a massive duvet coat (ok I have one of these 😄). Straight below the shoulder hair tied into a low ponytail with a thick scrunchy. The overall effect is comfort and low maintenance but by heck it’s dull when it’s everyone and all the time. I’m not sure what the British style is though. I haven’t really observed very much I’m not sure.

Divebar · 15/12/2020 07:45

I would quite like to see what Scandinavian women are wearing. I wear a lot of Scandinavian brands but i suspect I wouldn’t look like a Scandinavian woman by any stretch of the imagination. The problem is that “ street style” significant enough to make it to a blog or Pinterest is shot around a “ fashion week” somewhere and isn’t really reflective of day to day wear.

Divebar · 15/12/2020 07:47

Ultimately we’re talking about clothes and if it makes you happy then go for it. What is all this concern about “ good taste” ?

Audreyseyebrows · 15/12/2020 07:57

I like french style. I like that it is understated and classic. I like the muted colours and the timeless designs. The fact that mothers and daughters are wearing the same ‘uniform’ is because it works.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/12/2020 07:58

Agree totally, OP. I'm from an Anglo-French family and relieved I didn't grow up in France, where the pressures on young women are even worse than here. No one wants to put a foot wrong, and your weight is constantly policed. Fashion isn't fun there.

No wonder, once they hit about 40, most French women decide to sack the whole thing off and dress in house coats (my granny's generation) or gilets from the market Smile

NaughtyNell · 15/12/2020 08:04

I second the Italians being more stylish, I went to Milan last year and almost everyone was impeccably dressed. But then i am obsessed with all things Italian

damnthatanxiety · 15/12/2020 08:08

@PillowPrincess

French aren't all that I like Spanish styles. Wander off central Paris and the style is for comfort, fleeces, classic jeans, body warmers...nothing special.
I think the Spanish are even more conservative than the French 🤣
BriocheBriocheBrioche · 15/12/2020 08:09

*golfishparade’ an Interesting take on it and I mostly agree with what you are saying.

I’ve lived in France for 10 years now and its true that when I first moved here I hid/donated a lot of my quite out there vintage boho clothes that I adored and resorted to wearing black zara clothes in order to ‘not stand out’

I’ve finally refound myself somewhat and am wearing my vintage items with pride now but in a more toned down manner (and I guess a more mature way - I’m not a student anymore!)

One thing I have learnt from the French way to dress is to invest in good quality staples and that less is more.
My most stylish french friends wear the typical French effortless style but it looks so good on them because they buy less, higher quality pieces of clothing.
They are also generally quite thin and look after themselves but in a less obvious way.

damnthatanxiety · 15/12/2020 08:10

@Divebar

I would quite like to see what Scandinavian women are wearing. I wear a lot of Scandinavian brands but i suspect I wouldn’t look like a Scandinavian woman by any stretch of the imagination. The problem is that “ street style” significant enough to make it to a blog or Pinterest is shot around a “ fashion week” somewhere and isn’t really reflective of day to day wear.
In the cities, Scandinavian look genuinely cool. Coolest looking people I have seen as a group. They push the boundaries into 'ugly' or ironic fashion just enough to be cool but not so much that they look like fashion victims. Even their supermarket own brand packaging is cool.
GoldfishParade · 15/12/2020 08:12

I mean come on, Alexa vs Clemence, when you add "street style 2020" to the search

Why would you even WANT to copy the Parisienne look?
Why would you even WANT to copy the Parisienne look?
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