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Why would you even WANT to copy the Parisienne look?

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GoldfishParade · 15/12/2020 05:56

Just think it's interesting when you see threads but also newspaper articles etc about the "French" look and specifically the Parisian look - a kind of understated elegant style, I get it.

But honestly, having lived in France for a decade now (in six cities in different regions) I really think this is a bit of a misplaced myth, in the same way that in France in some crowds there can be a bit of glamourising around "le gentleman so British". Sure, when you're in london you may very occasionally see some really dapper looking men wearing those big beige overcoats (what are they called by the way? The big flappy things they wear over suits? Like a kind of trench coat?).

But by and large whenever I go back to the UK I genuinely find British women dress better, with more snap, in outfits that have more interest. What I've learnt from my time here is that the whole understated elegance thing doesnt necessarily stem from wanting to look effortless, it's actually about not wanting to stand out from the crowd. I remember a friend asking me if I thought her shoes were too "m'as tu vu" (flashy). They just weren't black. In fact you barely ever see coats here that arent black, grey, or beige. Teenagers basically look no different from their parents. Fashion doesnt really happen at all. I think in the 10 years I've been here nothing has really changed, its still jeans, delicate trainers, a Longchamp handbag and a trench, just like Mum. Maybe the jeans got slightly wider lately; that's all.

It always seems to me theres some fabulous styled women in the UK, "even" outside London. I see "even" because outside of Paris, in the French "provinces" thing start to go downhill quite rapidly IMO.

So why does the French thing continue to inspire? I honestly think in the UK you are freer to experiment, you have more choice, and people by and large look pretty rocking. Maybe the trend for heavy makeup could be toned down a bit, also the fillers trend (from what I'm reading) in the UK is a bit shocking.

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veeeeh · 15/12/2020 20:51

@Gwenhwyfar

"no one cares what others wear "

Except the people on Style and Beauty of course!

OK, twenty lines and detention now!
Divebar · 15/12/2020 20:52

It’s interesting - my DM lives near Colston Bassett and took a whole Stilton when she visited some British friends living in France. Apparently all the French neighbours came round to partake. There are some fantastic British cheeses.

Gwenhwyfar · 15/12/2020 20:52

"I think it’s unhygienic not to wear a fresh one every day."

That's rubbish and very irresponsible of you if you're washing tops that don't need it.
But obviously Laure is like every other TV detective in not really being bothered about what she wears. Look at the one in the Killing who wears the same jumper all the time and Sage in The Bridge who has the same look all the time. It's part of the TV detective persona isn't it?

Divebar · 15/12/2020 20:55

It’s also a work of fiction and not a documentary

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/12/2020 21:03

*I'd much rather eat in a typical British pub than the French equivalent."

Really? Have you been to the Weatherspoons or the carveries?

Yes, and I'd take either over some fucking awful Sports Bar - food wise, anyway (the behaviour of the clientele is a different issue..).

dreamingbohemian · 15/12/2020 21:09

@Divebar

It’s interesting - my DM lives near Colston Bassett and took a whole Stilton when she visited some British friends living in France. Apparently all the French neighbours came round to partake. There are some fantastic British cheeses.
Oh yes, I'd say Stilton is the most respected British cheese in France.

British cheeses ARE lovely. There just isn't the same diversity as in France (due to geography and climate).

The French also really love Scottish whiskies, they drink far more whisky than cognac :)

HollyandIvyandallthingsYule · 15/12/2020 21:11

@Gwenhwyfar

"We’re not strictly a British household in that I’m Danish, but yes, that is how we eat. We do like a lot of variety and take our inspiration from many different cuisines. We’ve had Korean stew this week, and will have at least one Indian meal this week and possibly one with a Middle Eastern influence as well."

Yes, but is it usual was my question. Does the average person do this? Curry, yes, but Mexican? It's only very recently arrived in restaurants in the UK.

Maybe not the average person. But I do know that we’re not that unusual, and we have two Mexican cookery books.

This is a tangent, of course. But I do love the supermarkets here because you can get much more variety of foodstuffs than you can in some countries.

HollyandIvyandallthingsYule · 15/12/2020 21:11

I want cheeses now.

DazzlePaintedBattlePants · 15/12/2020 21:14

Ah, but the Brits do have more cheeses than the French now too!

www.newsweek.com/britain-produces-more-cheese-france-484465

HollyandIvyandallthingsYule · 15/12/2020 21:19

I want all the cheeses. English, French, Danish...I’m not fussy.

dreamingbohemian · 15/12/2020 21:33

[quote DazzlePaintedBattlePants]Ah, but the Brits do have more cheeses than the French now too!

www.newsweek.com/britain-produces-more-cheese-france-484465[/quote]
I think that depends how you define 'varieties' :) A lot of cheeses can be very similar in style and taste.

France has all those lovely mountain cheeses and a greater love for stinky washed rind cheeses, on top of all the goats and blues and hard cheeses you find in the UK.

Sorry for the cheese derail! 🧀🧀🧀

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/12/2020 21:41

French cheese is better than British. Sorry.

But it's a cruel irony that you're not allowed to eat any if you're a Parisienne, because god forbid you don't fit into your size 32 jeans.

Divebar · 15/12/2020 21:48

We’ve really taken this thread and run with it!

Anyway... enough food talk. Can I ask about “ influencers” - I know, I hate that word too. Does anyone follow any stylish accounts that are worth looking at? I’m happy to look at French, British, Danish, German... whatever but I’d like some older ladies preferably 40+. I follow a few - some who only wear second hand, some quite edgy but I’d love to look at a few more ( especially if not head to toe designer)

TryingnottobeWaynettaSlob · 15/12/2020 22:07

Great link @GoldfishParade forwarded to my mum tout suite who’s fluent in French looking forward to her verdict 🤣

stella1know · 15/12/2020 22:17

@Gwenhwyfar err yes been cooking mexican food at home using ingredients and tortillas from ASDA since the late 1990s. Maybe not super posh but easy and simple midweek. Curry as standard, chinese too. So I agree that these popular cuisines have woven themselves into our basic repertoire. London at least.

Jemenfouscompletement · 15/12/2020 22:21

Monoprix is not a 'normal' supermarket in France it is much more high range! The v ça lot he's that you find in Leclerc, Super U and Carrefour are much more basic and train train

Jemenfouscompletement · 15/12/2020 22:23

Sorry that should be the clothes that you find.
Bloody autocorrect

BringMeTea · 15/12/2020 22:26

Divebar. i like Debora Carminati. Few too many coffee shots for my liking but lots of outfit inspo.

Divebar · 15/12/2020 22:42

@Bringmetea

Thank you... I’ll check her out. Most of mine are a bit niche but I do like Vennswifestyle on Instagram - (although I presume she’s gifted a lot of clothes) and the complete antithesis regarding edgy older woman & British style is Cathirae.

Divebar · 15/12/2020 22:49

She makes me feel good about some of my sartorial choices. I doubt she cares much about Parisienne style.

Why would you even WANT to copy the Parisienne look?
Divebar · 15/12/2020 23:13

Styleinthesticks are good too - based out of Rutland I think.

Janegrey333 · 15/12/2020 23:34

@Gwenhwyfar

"I think it’s unhygienic not to wear a fresh one every day."

That's rubbish and very irresponsible of you if you're washing tops that don't need it.
But obviously Laure is like every other TV detective in not really being bothered about what she wears. Look at the one in the Killing who wears the same jumper all the time and Sage in The Bridge who has the same look all the time. It's part of the TV detective persona isn't it?

Saga
Janegrey333 · 15/12/2020 23:39

@veeeeh

I'm sorry to tell you all that no one cares what others wear or eat or do, they are too busy looking at themselves. LOL.
True. And dressing for themselves, of course.
Janegrey333 · 15/12/2020 23:40

@Jemenfouscompletement

Monoprix is not a 'normal' supermarket in France it is much more high range! The v ça lot he's that you find in Leclerc, Super U and Carrefour are much more basic and train train
What on earth is “train train.”?
Janegrey333 · 15/12/2020 23:45

@Gwenhwyfar

"I think it’s unhygienic not to wear a fresh one every day."

That's rubbish and very irresponsible of you if you're washing tops that don't need it.
But obviously Laure is like every other TV detective in not really being bothered about what she wears. Look at the one in the Killing who wears the same jumper all the time and Sage in The Bridge who has the same look all the time. It's part of the TV detective persona isn't it?

That's rubbish and very irresponsible of you if you're washing tops that don't need it.

Oh I see. 🙄
I dread to imagine how often you change your clothes. Ugh