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Royal style: we want more salwars and we're not sari about it!

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QueenOfTheAndals · 18/10/2019 11:00

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beanaseireann · 26/10/2019 10:54

Prince Joachim married a woman who looks very similar to his sister in law Mary.
Prince Edward married a woman who is a little similar to his late sil, Diana.
Smile

paradyning · 26/10/2019 11:16

This is essentially it:

On 8 November 1993 Prince Edward arranged a date with Sophie Rhys-Jones. He had forgotten that he was due to have a late lunch with his parents. the Princess Royal and Tim Laurence at the same time, after the centarph service. Realising the mistake on the day he asked the Queen if he could bring Sophie to the lunch.
In the weeks that followed the Queen had related to the Queen Mother about Edward's girlfriend, famously refering to her as "unnoticable in a crowd,". She also spoke to his ladies in waiting and other famly members and friends. The Queen Mother desperately wanted to met Sophie and arranged a family lunch after Sunday service with the exact purpose.
After the lunch the Windsor men retired outside with their refreshment to overlook Prince Andrew's new car. When Diana arrived early returning William and Harry to their father and to spend time with the Queen. Leaving the boys by the men, Diana went inside, asking one of the couriers on the way if Sophie was with the Queen at the time, when they replied yes, she replied that she wanted to see who was replacing her.
By some accounts of the story Diana arrived when the Queen was going over the family album and in the middle of Princess Anne's story of something that happened while she was in Australia, while others note that Anne has already excused herself and was already on her way out.
Diana apparently say down besides Sophie and began what Princess Maragaret described as and interogation.

Diana commented about Sophie's skirt, saying it was nice for Marks and Spencers

anyway and that must be expensive on her wages. She then stopped and asked with Sophie earned a salary rather. She then asked what Sophie's father did, when Sophie answered that he was retired, Diana replied that he must how be hard up for money. Apparently this is how it continued for almost half and hour, most of the questions revolved around how pooor and common Sophie was. Sophie then asked the Queen if she could leave and left the room. The Queen Mother apparantly told Diana off and when Diana tried to explain her behaviour, Princess Maragret remaked she had been a common b--ch, at which Diana left the room.

Upon leaving she ran into Andrew, Philip and Edward who were going upstairs, Diana told them that Sophie was not longer there. When the Duke of Edinburgh asked why she had left early, she answered that she was complaining of women problems and decided to leave. Edward went up to his apartment to find Sophie crying packing her things. He must have conviced her to stay as she didn't leave. The next day, the Queen and the Queen Mother apolgised for Diana's behavour.
Diana went home and phone Andrew Morton whom had already been told that Prince Edward had a new girlfriend and was eager for more information. She told him that Sophie was a carbon copy of her and that the monarchy were also grooming her to replace her.

bohemia14 · 26/10/2019 11:33

@paradyning that's a very interesting story. I'm old enough to remember Diana and she was definitely not the saint she is now portrayed to be by many. Undoubtedly part of her personality was shaped by her very dysfunctional childhood; her parents divorced when she was 7 and her mother lost custody of her children.

Interestingly people often claim Diana was an ordinary girl thrust into the spotlight of royalty - nothing could be further from the truth, the Queen is her brother's godmother!

She was beautiful and charismatic but even today her presence is still felt in the royal family as shown by Harry's recent comments.

peridito · 26/10/2019 11:47

Peter Carter-Ruckto - libel lawyer

Tiggy Legge-Bourke - tall blonde woman

Sorry to be so shallow but such fabulous names !

beanaseireann · 26/10/2019 11:52

paradyning
Was that interesting story reported publicly?

Sophie's late mother was Irish but I'm not sure if she was first or second generation Irish.
Does she have any cousins living in Ireland?

justasking111 · 26/10/2019 11:55

What annoys me is that the royal women are supposed to be so decorous in their dress these days. They are expected to wear high street and be one of us. Kate and Meghan look good in shorter dresses/skirts yet heavens if they show a bit of thigh they are berated in the media. They are young women being pushed into being matrons, how did that come about?

banivani · 26/10/2019 11:59

justasking I’ve already analysed that for you - QE:s style got stuck in the 70s (and not the disco era), and you got it into your heads that all RF women had to look like that. At the same time it disappoints you because it’s not modern, aspirational and doesn’t fill the brief of really representing modern Britain. Grin

Blingandrings · 26/10/2019 12:00

Oh dear. I’ve never heard that story. If it’s true it’s pretty awful. I never got the impression that Sophie and Diana liked each other much.

paradyning · 26/10/2019 12:03

I'm sorry I don't know the provenance but I have definitely heard it before. The post I copied this from cited Andrew Morton and Paul Burrell (both paragons of truthfulness!) so take of it what you will.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 26/10/2019 12:10

That story isn’t very nice. Isn’t Sophie The Favourite DIL?

QueenOfTheAndals · 26/10/2019 12:14

For a while she was the only DiL!

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AppleKatie · 26/10/2019 12:16

The story isn’t nice at all but has the ring of truth somehow. Joining the royal family must be a horrendous experience for which you need a very thick skin.

Disclaimer- I no not if this particular story was true or not nor the source of it but it’s not a massive leap of imagination to think that upon introduction to the royal family you have to navigate some extraordinary and testing conversations.

beanaseireann · 26/10/2019 12:19

Surprising that neither William or Harry were at the Rugby World Cup semi final in Japan today.

FiveTwoFaster · 26/10/2019 12:22

Reading that story, for the first time ever, I want to high five Princess Margaret.

QueenOfTheAndals · 26/10/2019 12:33

Imagine how bad you'd have to be for Princess Margaret to call you a bitch!!

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Myimaginarycathasfleas · 26/10/2019 12:36

I wonder what MM knows about Princess Margaret? My Goodness, that would have been a meeting!

ajandjjmum · 26/10/2019 12:38

I think both brothers should have gone beanaseireann - or maybe they're holding out for an England vs. Wales final?!!! Grin What a match!

QueenOfTheAndals · 26/10/2019 12:50

Is William the patron saint of English rugby union? I think Harry has league?

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/10/2019 12:51

The patron! Bloody autocorrect inserting saint there!!

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Myimaginarycathasfleas · 26/10/2019 12:56

I love the idea of William being the patron saint of rugby! 😂

DevonUkelele · 26/10/2019 13:00

Surprising that neither William or Harry were at the Rugby World Cup in Japan today.

I'm a kiwi, albeit resident in Oz for many years. Perhaps they are holding out for next week's final ...

@beanaseireann England v Wales would be amazing!

DevonUkelele · 26/10/2019 13:02

Eek, wrong tag @ajandjjmum ... blame the late night and (I am told) devastating loss.

thisenglishlife · 26/10/2019 14:02

If anyone is looking for a royal inspired London restaurant recommendation, then there's Maggie Jones.

It was one of Margaret's favourites and is now named after the faux name she used to make reservations.

Royal style: we want more salwars and we're not sari about it!
Royal style: we want more salwars and we're not sari about it!
Royal style: we want more salwars and we're not sari about it!
AdaColeman · 26/10/2019 14:28

It must have been a personal first for Princess Margaret to be out-bitched! She was the queen of the cutting put down.

For all that Diana is now painted as a victim of the Press, in fact she often played them like a flute, successfully manipulating them to help her out manoeuvre Charles, especially with the timings of her press releases.

WineOrGinOrBoth · 26/10/2019 14:34

The Sunday newspapers had to be pulled When she died as they were so derogatory. She then became St Diana.

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