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Royal style: we want more salwars and we're not sari about it!

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QueenOfTheAndals · 18/10/2019 11:00

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paradyning · 25/10/2019 16:40

Some lovely pics of CP Elisabeth here. Not too keen on Mathilde's look. Elisabeth looks lovely in her white tux dress.
But Paola looks amazing. Love her top

Also. The chandeliers are pretty immense too!

Princess Elisabeth of Belgium celebrates her 18th birthday
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AdaColeman · 25/10/2019 16:49

Diana had speech presentation lessons from Dickie Attenborough, as he mentions in his autobiography.

QueenOfTheAndals · 25/10/2019 16:51

So the shoes Meghan wore today are by a brand that seem to specialise in high heels that are also comfortable. And if you like Meghan's shoes but find them too high then they do the same style in two other heel heights!

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thisenglishlife · 25/10/2019 16:52

Princess Elisabeth's (of Belgium) 18th birthday celebration, she was invested with The Order of Leopold.

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QueenOfTheAndals · 25/10/2019 16:54

@paradyning Paola was a great beauty in her youth, she easily rivalled Grace Kelly.

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FaithHowellsYellowCoat · 25/10/2019 17:17

Meghan makes Kate look woeful at public speaking. Yes I get she’s nervous but she spent nearly 10 years knowing what she was going to be doing for the rest of her life - why not get some training?

QueenOfTheAndals · 25/10/2019 17:22

I'm not sure it's a skill that can really be learned @FaithHowellsYellowCoat. I don't find HM to be a particularly good public speaker and she's been doing it over 70 years!

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myrtleWilson · 25/10/2019 17:33

I agree its not a skill that can be learned in a foolproof manner. I regularly give presentations, speak on tv, radio etc. Sometimes I'm confident, get into a rhythm etc, on other occasions I'm chronically lacking in confidence, feel like I'm all over the place, speak too quickly... am not always able to identify what is different - not the depth of knowledge or experience, not whether or not I'd had too much coffee/not enough coffee...but I think a gnawing of self doubt takes over. Now for some people they can squish down any thoughts of self doubt but not everyone can and therefore the little blighter can pop up unexpectedly and whoosh.. the tightening of the throat happens, the juddering legs..

itswinetime · 25/10/2019 17:54

I think Meghan is particularly talented at public speaking as a pp said those clips of her as a child she is gifted. I think she makes most of the rest of the royal family look a little bit amateur by comparison including those who were born into it!

Sophie is the only one close in my opinion she has made some strong speeches lately.

thisenglishlife · 25/10/2019 17:59

A young Paola (of Belgium)

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QueenOfTheAndals · 25/10/2019 18:10

I've always thought this was a stunning shot of Paola.

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thisenglishlife · 25/10/2019 18:15

Very Catherine Deneuve meets a young Mery Streep @QueenOfTheAndals

SenecaFalls · 25/10/2019 18:22

I do a lot of public speaking in my job and I am comfortable with it and always have been, but one of the things that can be learned is that, at least in my experience, you do need to "act" a bit in that I am more consciously expressive or emotive than I am in other contexts. This is something that I learned from watching videos of my presentations years ago. I sometimes came across as less enthusiastic than I perceived myself to be. So since then I do an intentional "game on" kind of pep talk to myself right before I start.

I think Meghan just comes to it very naturally, likely no internal pep talk needed, and Kate is getting better. I have seen Prince Edward speak in person in the US, and he was actually quite good, humorous and engaged.

Blingandrings · 25/10/2019 19:19

I think Kate is naturally shy and more introverted. Some people just hate the attention being on them. I am one of them. My worst nightmare is public speaking. No amount of coaching would change that. Meghan is an extrovert and thrives on it. My OH is one of those. Loves public speaking. I think it's either in your nature or it isn't.

beanaseireann · 25/10/2019 19:22

Sorry QueenoftheAndals I have to disagree. Yes Paola was beautiful but Grace Kelly was even more beautiful to my eyes.

SenecaFalls · 25/10/2019 19:39

I think it's either in your nature or it isn't.

I do agree with this. But shyness and introversion are not necessarily the same thing. I am an introvert, but I am not shy. I do think that Kate has a bit of natural shyness, but I think she comes across as genuine and engaged when she speaks, which is the main thing.

thisenglishlife · 25/10/2019 19:49

Maheen Khan interview (on Kate's Pakistan clothing):

Maheen created a bespoke blue kurta and trousers, hand embroidered in white silk and pearls, for the duchess to wear when visiting Islamabad's Model College.

'It was quite simple as I was given a brief but allowed the freedom to create what I thought would be appropriate,' she revealed.

'They didn't give me any firm directions - they gave me a brief and left it to me. I chose an existing graphic for the neckline embroidery.

'I was very taken with her wedding dress: it was simple and beautiful. She has a long swan-like neck, like a ballerina. So, when they asked me to do a bespoke outfit, I instinctively created a neckline like her wedding dress.'

And Kate turned to the award-winning designer, who has worked on the 1984 TV extravaganza Jewel in the Crown and musical The Phantom of the Opera, throughout the remainder of the five-day trip.

The royal teamed an emerald green tunic coat by British favourite Catherine Walker with a pair of slim-white trousers by Maheen when meeting Prime Minister Imran Khan.

And, for a visit to Lahore's famed Badshahi Mosque, she chose a teal silk chiffon kaftan, matching slim trousers and dupatta, embroidered with gold silk phulkari, or flower work, to resemble the hills of Northern Pakistan.

'You cannot begin to imagine my excitement,' Maheen explained. 'I had no idea when or if at all she would wear any of them, so it was nothing short of a suspense movie. I was like a kid in a candy store.

'You could not have moved me from the television with a roller coaster. The Duchess looked so gorgeous, relaxed and comfortable.

'The periwinkle blue had hit all the right spots. And the teal chiffon, with its soft flowing silhouette was so perfect for the mosque visit.'

Maheen began her career as a costume designer in 1972, working for a series of international theatrical and television productions including Sweeney Todd, Elizabeth and Elizabeth: The Golden Age.

She is the CEO of Pakistan's Fashion Week, where she shows her collections, and has also held a fashion show at Milan Fashion Week.

'When I started out 10 years ago, that's the one thing I said was my goal: that I was going to dress the royals,' she added.

'What gives me a lot of pride for my team is that my clothes fit her. My team was brilliant. I have a master-cutter who is uneducated, grew up dirt poor and unschooled in Lahore. He was very naughty and refused to go to school.

'His parents sent him to me to be apprenticed. I started teaching him out to stitch. He's a grandfather today and he's my head cutter. He's dyslexic to boot but he's absolutely brilliant. It's not always an education that gets you somewhere.'

Maheen said it was a 'dream come true' to make clothes for Kate and to meet her and Prince William at an intimate reception in Islamabad during their tour.

The designer was amongst a group of 50 people from the music, dance, fashion and art industries, invited to the party, hosted by British High Commissioner at the Pakistan Monument.

'It was all done very methodically,' she said. 'I was at table number three. We were introduced to them by one of the British High Commission officials.

We discussed the clothes, of course, how she loved them and how well they fitted.

'She said to me: "Thank you for the beautiful clothes." I was really chuffed because she moved towards me with a smile and said softly: "The trousers fit so well."

It was the biggest compliment she could give me because they are the hardest thing to make. It was such a lovely and genuine thing to say. "Thank you so much", I replied. "That's the nicest thing you could say".

She continued: 'It was like a dream come true. I've always had such a fascination with the Royal family – my youngest aunt stood all night in the rain to watch the Coronation.

'I was struck by what a beautiful couple they are. Such grace. It was just wonderful meeting them. They were friendly and normal. They made you feel comfortable.

peridito · 25/10/2019 20:07

'She said to me: "Thank you for the beautiful clothes." I was really chuffed because she moved towards me with a smile and said softly: "The trousers fit so well."

ah ,that's so nice .And that interview sounds v genuine .

Disfordarkchocolate · 25/10/2019 20:18

I've been doing work presentation and leading meeting etc for over 25 years, I still blush every single time. Now I just say to people it's going to happen when I can. I can talk off the cuff well if I know my subject.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 25/10/2019 20:25

@thisenglishlife

What a lovely interview with M!aheen Khan. Where did you find it?

StartupRepair · 25/10/2019 20:58

I'm an introvert who loves public speaking! I would much rather give a speech than mingle at a noisy party.
Didn't Paola have quite a wild marriage, with affairs on both sides?

Whattheother2catsprefer · 25/10/2019 21:13

@StartupRepair me too. I can happily speak to a room full of people but go completely stupid, mumbley and awkward making one to one small talk or worse still a phone call with a stranger. I gave my bosses annual presentation for years because she just couldn't stand up and present to a room and I actually enjoyed it. I was a bit sad when she took another role and her replacement was happy to do the speech. I am hopeless at interviews, terrible at chit chat with people I don't know and have to Psych myself up to phone and book an appointment but give me a crowd and I'm it.

QueenOfTheAndals · 25/10/2019 21:13

I don't know about Paola but her husband was apparently up there with Kings JC and CG as a philanderer. I read that they nearly separated at one point but have since reconciled.

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SenecaFalls · 25/10/2019 21:23

I would much rather give a speech than mingle at a noisy party.

Me, too with bells on. I'm energized by giving a speech; at noisy parties, I'm almost always just wishing I were at home with my kindle.

bohemia14 · 25/10/2019 22:03

I'm very shy and lack confidence in social situations, although I'm pretty good at hiding it.
I have a job which involves public speaking/presentations every day. I used to be terrified at the idea of giving presentations but now for me it's like stepping onto a stage and acting. And I've become good at it and know what works well.

Meghan is a trained actress. She's playing a part. It's something she knows how to do and it's unfair to compare others like Kate.

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