🐌 Fantastic Skincare: New Year, NuFaces

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For those who are taking a peek and wondering what this all about, we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients (rather than the latest new shiny product and all its empty promises) for our particular skin needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between. Newcomers are always welcome but please note the following:

Questions and asking for help on this thread is encouraged, however, we can’t give you a specific routine to follow and hope it works out for the best. There are no overnight miracles in skincare whether it be in the form of products or techniques. It’s about perseverance, understanding your skin, assessing its needs and responding to that in a diligent manner.

These threads were created to help those who want to learn for themselves. We’re a group of interested and invested skincare nuts happy to offer tea and sympathy and dole out advice. Everyone’s journey with skincare is different, what is universal and binds us is that through actually learning about the different active ingredients it helps us get to know our skin and help us adapt as it will change many times throughout our lives - with seasons, hormonal changes, ageing, genetics etc. It's in everyone's best interests to get to know their skin and to keep reviewing those changes with the confidence that comes from the gathered knowledge here. We really encourage you to spend the time reading through previous threads and linked info sheets that the many contributors have taken the trouble to share.

By no means are we experts, we're only a bunch of amateurs that can only respond by suggesting what we would do in your place, for any severe conditions please seek out professional help.

Ahem, and finally a little note on spending. I'm well aware these threads cause many to reach for their wallets and spend with wild abandon. There can sometimes be a bit of a frenzy surrounding the excitement around a newly discovered product or on the back of great improvements when someone reports back. This is all great, it doesn't however, mean everything that's a sudden miracle for one will be it for you. Usually, it's a light bulb moment for connecting the right skincare ingredient with an individual experiencing a specific problem. Take your time to mull over decisions and question whether it's right for you too. Skincare is highly individual, it's a slow game that should cost mostly in patience, input, education, and perseverance. Please don't make it cost you financially needlessly.

I am very slowly working on consolidating the gathered information from previous threads into easier to read formats but it’s slow going. I would suggest reading thread 1 and at the very least the following info sheets (provided they apply to you):

Where to Start

Basics of an Actives Routine

Skin Types vs. Skin Conditions Info Sheet

Anti-Ageing Info sheet

Adult Acne Info Sheet

Understanding Which Sunscreen(s) to Buy

Do I Really Need to Wear Sunscreen Every Single Day of the Year?

A Damaged Skin Barrier - Now What?

NEW SERIES:

So You Want To Buy A Retinoid - A Guide

JANUARY 2019: We're exploring gadgets, and I, Accountability Bo, will attempt to keep everyone in line

I recently had cheek fillers, and i am really pleased,will add pics, but wont leave them on for long, guess how old i am
My main problem is my neck, which i have hidden with my polo neck jumper

I'm rubbish at guessing ages princess but I will say your skin has a lovely healthy glow to it.

The aesthetic nurse (specialising in skin for 20 years) could not believe it when I said I have rosacea. So that's her, Sali Hughes, Caroline Hirons (at an evening event so in person and up close and wear the lightest swoosh of tinted moisturiser and don't reapply so they would definitely have seen my skin), the previous private hospital where I had a tiny bit of filler after my eyelid surgery and a handful of beauticians over the years - all disagree and said I don't have rosacea vs one dermatologist who originally diagnosed me 10 years ago. So who's right?!

I went because of a rash on my left nasolabial fold. It was really red, angry, raised and sore for weeks and my GP gave me steroid cream which didn't work. It was xmas time and I was so self concious of it and it was painful and it really started to affect my mental health and I remember I didn't go to a couple of parties because of it. My GP then referred me to the dermatologist who gave me the diagnosis of rosacea and seborrheic dermatitis. She gave me some topical stuff and oral antibiotics and a bunch of attitude and it cleared up in a few weeks. I've never (touch wood) had a problem since.

Just makes me wonder if I do actually have rosacea or if I was misdiagnosed. Perhaps I just manage it extremely well. I do know that I am prone to flushing and have that sort of skin. HIIT makes me red as a beetroot, and I've all but stopped doing it, mainly because it is not a good type of exercise once you're menopausal but I don't miss the red face after (which I always wondered was damaging longer term than the 20 minutes it lasted?). I do still run, but I am trying to focus on weight training now rather than the HIIT, and lots of walking.

I have always looked after my skin. I started using Clarins products in my early 20s and used them for about 15 years before switching to Dermalogica, then Clinique and now my smorgasbord of products.

I didn't like this derm much. I remember asking her about my hooded eyes and she said surgery was the only option, and without me even mentioning my lower eyelids she said sth like "you could do with getting those done too" or words to that effect which I thought was just dreadful: encouraging someone to have surgery for sth they'd not even mentioned.

I guess a possible misdiagnosis is nothing much to worry about for now. I manage my skin well and if I have any similar issues I'd be straight to the GP for a referral and seeing as we live in a difference county now I'd see a different derm (which I'd have asked for regardless).

I don't know Pupsie, obviously I'm a complete non-expert and have never seen your skin, but the way you've reacted to some ingredients/products does very much echo Rosacea, I've just always assumed it's very mild and a less common strain of it. I think a lot of us in Northern Europe are genetically predisposed to rosacea and depending how skin and general health is managed it flares up or not.

Guess my age threads never end well so I'll diplomatically stay out of any guess work.

I saw today the Alex Steinherr collection at Primark is being expanded with two products. Forgot the other product but there are PHA pads which did peek my interest. In stores from the 25th of February (in the UK I assume, it was a week later here last time).

Sorry, Country, meant to reply earlier, for hydrating serums it's tricky with Hyaluronic Acid as that can be irritating with reactive skin.

Cheap and cheerful option is the Superdrug simply pure hydrating serum as it also contains barrier restoring ceramides in. If you don't get on with HA you won't have wasted much money but it's not a miracle worker for everyone.

I often recommend the Vichy Mineral 89 as it's fairly innocuous and hydrating. It contains HA in but it's simple and less likely to be irritating in comparison to the multi molecular weight versions.

Otherwise switch to something glycerin based, but these take a bit longer to show effect.

Princess just for the fun of it I'll guess your age, apologies if I get it wrong but you did ask....you look older than my mum so I'd guess around 67-68?

Oh meant to add you do have lovely glowy skin though x

Thank you mintmagnummm. you are a bit out, i wont reveal yet, but i hyave had nothing else done, i do sometimes have botox, but not recently, last July i think,
The photo is quite flattering though, but i am so pleased with the fillers,i want to tell everyone lol

I thought maybe around 58 ISH.......

I love you RuggyPeg

I still haven't even used my Alex Steinherr Primark products although my filorga eye cream is about to run out so I may use the eye cream.

I have to say the Filorga eye cream has worked exceptionally well for me because unlike other eye creams it actually has plumped up my under eyes very well.

Princess not entirely sure how old you are but I am 48 and you look more my DM age of 75 although she's had no work done yet (we both look at least 10 years younger than we are however)

Pupsie sounds like you had some kind of dermatitis

Tantric you are close

That does sound you had the dermatitis Pupsie but the rosacea was maybe mis-diagnosed, though like you say it could be that you just manage it very well.

Suppose I'm quite lucky with my yellow skin as I'm not prone to redness or flushing at all. Going back a few years we used to have aerobics classes in work at lunchtime, people used to refuse to believe I'd been as I didn't go red or even break much of a sweat - even though I'd done exactly the same workout as everyone else!

Princess I'm not much good at guessing, I have two friends who recently turned 60 and you do look slightly older than them (they are very well preserved though and don't even pay much attention to their skin, not fair!) so I'd go with mid 60s. You do look very glowy and healthy though

oooh sounds like I'm out with the age thing, I'll go with 73

Well i will put you out of your misery,i am 76, but no one who doesnt know me thinks i am , my mother always looked younger than her age, even in her 80s she still looked 10 years younger
I do look after my skin and have virtually no wrinkles, just a few crows feet, but i have lot some facial fat, and as i am very slim, and not very tall but my face did need a bit of help i think,.but i am so pleased with the cheek fillers, that i want to say to anyone who is thinking about it to go for it,

Bloody hell Princess - you look incredible!

You do look great Princess - your skin looks really fresh and glowing.

Thank you Sallie and RuggyPeg i do look after my skin, but actually the fillers make it look a bit better too,probably becaus it stretches it a bit i guess
I dont care if anyone says why bother [at my age] but it makes me feel better,and in general i dont feel my age so why should i join the slippers and knitting brigade, its depressing getting older, but at the same time i know i am lucky to be healthy and active
Just need a toy boy now lol

Good for you princess you look great!

Has anyone else tried the environ range? I am 6 months in with the skin home needling level 2 cream (just about to change to level 3) and the multi vitamins. I have started to notice changes and more confident to go out without makeup (foundation) but wanted to see if anyone had been doing it longer that me and what their end results were at level 4

Sorry, I've never tried Environ, Jjbay it's a very different range though and the founder is an interesting and unusual man. Think Nadine Bagott is a big fan, she's done a few videos on it and an interview with the
founder (it was a tad messy in the back of a cab though). Out of interest what price point is it (it's not available where I am) is it comparable to the Obagi systems?

Pupsie, wanted to ask yesterday but forgot, why is HIIT no advised for menopausal women? Is it due to the immediate stress to the body that raises Cortisol levels and disrupts hormonal balance (that's the reason I can't)?

@**botemp i am really liking the result just curious as to how it progresses. It starts at approx £20 for cleansers ect £40 for cream and £50/£60 for treatments like masks ect usto use clarins or Lancôme and find it about the same price ranges as them. Obviously environ do a mature skin range which I would imagine are a slightly higher price but I’m not on that rangeyet it seems to be difficult to sieve as you need a consultation with it but I believe you can do an online one now but not sure of the company that provide this

Sorce sorry

i have just noticed Harvey nicks sell it online although think they are slightly more expensive than my local stockists botemp

Well I'm just dipping in to say that Skincity is no longer going to be selling Biologique Recherce apparently.