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Skincare Ingredients

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Pupsiecola · 18/10/2016 16:08

Following on from the skincare routines post, what ingredients do you make sure you include in your products, for example, Vit C, Vit E, Hyaluronic acid?

TIA

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botemp · 27/11/2016 18:30

True with the savings, Surratt will profit instead, their blushes are supposedly ace too (the whole Surratt range is described as a cross between Nars and Suqqu) just have to figure out a colour from online swatches or book a trip to London or New York.

Is that Everyday Shea only available through iherb, Aurora? Currently looking at Eucerin Atopicontrol Bath & Shower Oil 20% Omega but I'm not sure about soy oil and that ES looks nice and gentle whilst still moisturising.

Pupsie, I've never had it personally but you can have some purging with acids but it shouldn't persist for longer than a two week period.

They'll make you jump through hoops for P50 everywhere, Storm, but if they carry the BR line they will most definitely have P50. Case in point about following manufacturer's suggested use and not a blogger's personal take, the nourishing oil cleanser is definitely one for dry skins.

It's tough with CH as no matter what she does having two overlapping businesses (her blog and the consultancy/brand repping) there are bound to be so many conflicts of interest. I'm not mistrusting that most of those relationships grow from informal to formal organically on the back of the blog, or not, but you can't ignore certain tendencies that don't feel altogether accidental. eg. Seeking out those hard to find Californian boutique brands only for them to come into the UK market shortly thereafter. I remember she wrote a scathing review on Bioeffect EGF (one of the most impressive products I've ever used btw) when it first came out, it couldn't possibly work, it could give you cancer, scaremongering about EGF as related to the human extracted version, etc. etc. only to happily go on a press trip to Iceland to visit their facilities (I believe last year) and post an updated review that was altogether favourable. I've said it before, she has her place and certain parts of the blog are very useful like the cheat sheets but she's not one I turn to for product recs that quickly and I find her active encouragement to disregard manufacturer's suggested use and cautions troubling sometimes.

Sali Hughes wrote quite an interesting piece about makeup brands' skincare lines. Was interesting to read that those are doing good business whilst the traditional skincare lines are losing sales (and have been for quite some time). It really feeds into the instant results, sensorial factors and smells nonsense, resembling little of 'performing' skincare and is funnily enough very much like makeup in that sense (temporarily uplifting until it's taken off at the end of the day). It's a bit of a nuisance trend from my perspective but I can definitely understand the popularity. It'll be curious to see how traditional skincare will develop in response as I'm sure they'll be looking to recover their market shares, let's hope it doesn't include a lot of silicone idle hope.

AuroraPolaris · 27/11/2016 20:16

Yes bo I only ever ordered the ES from iHerb and never found it anywhere else. It's also Fair Trade etc etc. At the time I made a few big orders that included vitamins etc, so it was worth it, even when I once had to pay customs.
I was actually intending to write them and ask what is their policy now, and how do orders through the European site work. (with StrawberryNet, for example, they guarantee you won't pay customs, and once even refunded me the sum I did have to pay).

The body lotion from the same line is also lovely - I used it on myself as well!

Well, I still want to get the NARS DT... sometime... pretty hard I think to judge blush by swatches as lighting can make such a big difference.
Must say this is also an product where I find high end is really worth it because cheaper blushes are quite "flat" or uniform in color whereas more expensive ones have a big range of pigments in each blush, which makes the effect more beautiful, subtle and "natural".

SheStoodInTheStorm · 27/11/2016 20:43

Very true re: CH bo. I think before she ramped up the consulting/brand work again and was just blogging it was good, but now I can see where some of it was headed! It is a shame. Will check out SH!

I can get a free skin consult at this aesthetic place and then buy the p50 (and will have to restrain myself from agreeing to a £195 BR treatment Shock)

I haven't looked at the Nars blushes (and my purse tells me I shouldn't) I use a Max Factor one that isn't flat or bloody glittery

wiltingfast · 27/11/2016 23:01

Hey Bo, I've recently switched to Jason coconut body wash for dd as well as porridge baths with argan oil.

I had been using elave sensitive body wash for children but it is too drying for her. The coconut one is ok so far. Smells a bit artificial tho. Not oil based either alas though there are oils in it (and shea butter). Definitely leaves skin soft. Too rich for me, I found it gives me spots.

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I was tempted by the eucerin one but the Jason tub is huge!

Pupsiecola · 27/11/2016 23:05

I've Ben watching some of Trinny Woodall's YouTubes lately having followed her on Instagram. I quite like her. She's a bit bonkers!

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Pupsiecola · 27/11/2016 23:32

Did anyone post about this Espa serum?

www.espaskincare.com/optimal-skin-proserum

Also, I know we've not really touched on haircare, but does anyone have lots and lots of coarse/dry hair? I am happy with my shampoo (Pureology) and I do use one of their pre-drying products. But the very ends of my hair are really dry and I need something for just those, ideally.

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OpenMindedSceptic · 28/11/2016 08:20

The Ordinary HA is £1 only on deciem website.

AuroraPolaris · 28/11/2016 08:49

pupsie my hair is very very dry Shock
I use macadamia oil on the ends before and after I dry it (only with diffuser on min heat).

Dulcimena · 28/11/2016 09:52

Aurora I can wholeheartedly recommend the Phyto Secret de Nuit for very dry hair. Amazing stuff but quite pricey.

botemp · 28/11/2016 13:07

Thanks Wilting but coconut smells (especially the artificial one) is my nemesis for some reason, nothing with it is allowed even near the house Grin.

I've figured out the La Vie en Rose from Surratt should be a safe bet, it was in the Liberty's Advent Calendar if anyone's got it spare so it should be pretty universal and they use a Japanese production method (the slurry one) which never turns out flat but a somewhat creamy texture so I feel pretty safe ordering that one. Annoying thing is, it belongs in an empty palette of theirs and those seem to be sold out everywhere so will have to sit on my hands till they're restocked.

Trinny from Trinny & Susannah? That was a long time ago, but she was already bonkers then. I do wonder what would happen if they were back on TV now and started groping everyone's breasts again, for whatever reason I don't think it would go down as well as it used to...

Have a look at the Christophe Robin Regenerating Mask with prickly pear, Pupsie, it really tames the ends and improves the condition of your hair long term. The Cleansing Mask with Lemon is also good if you've gone bleach mad and have fried your hair. Pricey but the tubs last for ages and the whole range is especially good if you colour your hair. Oil on the ends like Aurora mentioned (I use rice bran oil) works too but only really if it's not very damaged to begin with.

Open is that offer only in the UK? Seems normal price from my end but the Deciem site is acting a bit odd.

hollinhurst84 · 28/11/2016 13:24

US/CA/UK only apparently

hollinhurst84 · 28/11/2016 13:27

This link works
http://deciem.com/sales/event/2016/blackfriday/

AuroraPolaris · 28/11/2016 14:33

Dulcie I know a lot of people rate Phyto but that product has MO, I'm afraid Shock

The TO offer is only US/Can/UK

Glad you managed to make up you mind about the blush bo I think I've got no choice but to find an excuse for a quickie to Paris to go to Sephora (I'm still bemoaning the fact they closed their shops here...).

I got sick of LF. Never even heard back from them, so got the stuff from FU. Was slightly more expensive, but just by a couple of euros and they seem to be willing to ship the 50ml Serozinc over here Wink

Pupsiecola · 28/11/2016 15:33

Thanks. Dry hair is just the way it is; have it semi perm coloured (brunette) but usually only the roots with the colour being randomly pulled through about twice a year. It's just to cover a few greys. I will look at that mask. Yes Bo that Trinny. Actually washed a crazy hair drying techniques video she did and tried some of them on mine this morning. Really quite good! I dug out my Liz Earle hair oil which does make a difference. Scared to look at the INCI now though.

I liked the original format of What Not To Wear but when they did the whole naked-in-front-of-360-degree-mirror-with-partner I stopped watching. She does make me chuckle in her Instagram vids

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hollinhurst84 · 28/11/2016 17:31

Well i wanted free shipping BlushGrin

Skincare Ingredients
Pupsiecola · 28/11/2016 21:45

Bo have you heard of this Vit C?

www.theheroproject.co.uk/vit-c-brightening-serum.html

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botemp · 28/11/2016 22:17

6 HA serums, hollin Shock! Sure you got enough?

It's not one I'd gravitate toward myself on account of all the citrus oils and I prefer L-AA (all Vit C research is based on this form). Ethylated AA needs to be broken down so you're in creative limbo land again with regards to % efficacy. Also there's little to no research supporting it beyond helping with dark spots, from the Beauty Brains:

3-O-Ethyl Ascorbate (EAC)

Is it Stable? No published data on stability.

Does it penetrate? Ex vivo animal testing shows it penetrates better than AA-2G.

Does it converts to Ascorbic Acid? No published data showing it converts to AA.

Protects from UV damage: No data.

Increases collagen synthesis: No data.

Reduces skin pigmentation: Human in vivo data shows it works against dark spots.

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The NIOD Ethylated L-Ascorbic Acid 30% Network is similar without the potential irritants. I'd still prefer a L-AA formulation with a ph of 3.5 or less though.

Pupsiecola · 28/11/2016 22:20

Thanks Bo. I came across it on a blog and thought it was one I hadn't seen mentioned here. I am probably going to go with the eBay SC ones next.

Had a look at that hair mask. Is very pricey! I would put it on my xmas list if I thought it would work. Some reviewers managed to get trial size versions but I've not had any luck. Will keep looking. Getting a trim and some of the weight taken out tomorrow which will help :-)

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botemp · 28/11/2016 22:30

Try ebay, I'm sure it's on there as they give out the deluxe minis quite often with orders. Lookfantastic sells CR and they usually do at least 15% off standard, there's a 3 for 2 thing messing with that currently though so you'd have to wait till that's over to get the discount on a single product.

Dulcimena · 28/11/2016 22:57

MO - macadamia oil, Aurora? Or is there a mineral oil hiding in there (if so what have they called it please?). We are a sensitive bunch on this thread aren't we!

Now looking up the Christopher Robin...

Dulcimena · 28/11/2016 23:01

Lol hollin! Free shipping is a powerful lure... I thought it was limited to one per customer?

Pupsiecola · 28/11/2016 23:29

OMG eBayers actually sell used products?!!

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hollinhurst84 · 28/11/2016 23:37

Ahem BlushBlush
Well one lasts me about 3 months...
They put the limited to one sign up after I bought 6. Oops

Pupsiecola · 28/11/2016 23:37

New thread here:-

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/2792072-Revenge-of-the-Skincare-Nerds-Part-II?watched=1

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