Amanda Holden Bad Botox

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Dear lord her face looks terrible on This Morning.
Is it the botox or the fillers that makes a face look so weird?

You won't look 10 years younger I don't look 40!

I've done it for crows feet....just a touch
It just relaxes them a bit...doesn't take them away
Think of your best most relaxed happy rested face, that

YY like you noddy I have significant health issues in the distant past
it made me consider the botox

it makes me happy

Ronald - but when you smile do you get the chipmunk effect a la Kidman?

I also absolutely despise the anti ageing industry. I think they're liars and charlatans and quite frankly, I'd like to stick their serums and injectables and miracle creams right up their arses. if that means I'll end up with a face like an angry prune then then so be it.

If you have had crap pumped into your face to such an extent, that your face no longer has anywhere near it's full range of motion, then yes, I think that should be considered mutilation.

There's always the false dichotomy drawn between botox and any other form of body maintenance.

Here's the difference (IMO): Having a nice haircut, wearing nice clothes is about looking a bit more fabulous like, icing on a cake.

Botox comes from fear and a repulsion at our faces in their natural state, that's why the increasing acceptance and expectation of it, is a very bad thing.

It's no different to dying grey hair in my opinion.

You could say anything was fear and revulsion as nature then eg hair dye once you are grey, spanx type underwear, heels on shoes, etc. I am not revolted by my natural face as I said up thread I went with a friend as 'support' as she wanted botox and the Dr said it wouldn't work on her and said it was more for dynamic lines like the ones I had. I didn't plan it but tried it and liked the rested result but I certainly am not disgusted at my natural face in any way

at nature

It's a personal decision where you draw the line. I draw it (and soz if I've already said this) when it becomes a medical procedure rather than a cosmetic one. But I'm not interested in attacking anyone who does it and that includes Amanda Holden who's just trying to make a living the only way she knows.

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I imagine you are one of many people who think botox makes them look better. I can assure you that in the main, many of you are simply deluding yourselves. And after years of having it, if you stop, your face is going to collapse like a souffle. It is a lot more invasive than dyeing your hair too and not reversible until it wears off whereas a hair job is.

I think the 'anti ageing; industry has managed to convince insecure people that the effects of time upon the face are always negative and that measures to mitigate them are preferable. Maybe, the first few Botox jabs work well but as you get older and older, you are going to find it harder and harder to maintain a sense of perspective and you'll all end up looking like Joan Rivers or any number of those social gargoyles that totter around Mayfair convinced they look fabulous dahling. They don't.

There are plenty of us who manage to maintain a perfectly decent face without all that crap and neither are we haggard or decrepit looking. You've been sold a crock my dears.

Thing is, people should be able to make a living as a TV presenter with their normal natural face. Men seem to do this just fine. Totally agree with the posters who mentioned blow up dolls - expressionless females are what some people now think of as acceptable and that is a very bad thing for women IMHO - aside from the fact that I don't think it looks great.

Also, at the start botox might look alright but the rest of your face is ageing so people tend to have more and more and/or things start looking out of kilter. It may start off okay but where do you stop

And the research into the effects of reduced facial mobility upon mood is interesting.

Avoid fags and too much booze. Sun screen and no sun on the face. Keep weight proportional and smile a lot. That has worked for me and every woman in my family. :)

x post, totally agree mignonette

I got married at the grand old age of 39. I was a wrinkly bride, while a few of my guests, a good ten years older than I, exhibited very smooth faces. I didn't care; it was the happiest day of my life

And FWIW, some of those lineless guests were men! (I work in the City)

That botox face with the wrinkled neck is a bit scary looking. Also the texture of the hair, clarity of the eyes, all those things that slowly change as we acquire more years.....They look so incongruous with the botox face but sadly the latter is all the devotees see. It must be awful being so scared of ageing that you feel the need to do that.

Sexism has a LOT to answer for.

Blimey, at first glance I thought it was Cheryl FV in that link. I either need glasses or she is trying to morph into the more popular person.

If anyone on here has had good, natural looking Botox done in London, can you PM me as it's something I'm thinking about but have no idea where is good to go.

The thing I think everyone who has it thinks it looks lovely and natural.

hahahahahaaa at the face collapsing like a souffle

If 'e'er a warning to the curious!!

I don't ear makeup unless we're of to a big do, and even then it is token gesture of mascara and some bb cream

A decent (not expensive, I get superdrug £10!) moisturiser and eye cream can do wonders and get your skin looking healthy and glowing (not 'youthful', not disguising your age) just keeps you looking fresh and healthy

and drink loads of water and wine

Actually even worse food analogy, I always have the mental image of somebody who has used Botox for years, being unable to top it up in time and their face running off their cheekbones like an over ripe camembert.

Someone asked me to post a pic of myself on here ages ago and she proceeded to pick it apart saying how she knew I had had work and it was my face without! I have had tiny amount maybe 5 times haven't had for a year and I look ok my face has not collapsed! I am 49

Keep on doing it and it will Noddy. The incongruity is when you have a taught shiny face with no lines but the skin tone, the shading, the loss of collagen, the neck, decolletage, less white schlera, changes around the eyelid and brow and hair texture of a much older woman.

That is when it all starts to look a bit batty. But by then the women has gone too far and cannot stop. :(