Amanda Holden Bad Botox

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Dear lord her face looks terrible on This Morning.
Is it the botox or the fillers that makes a face look so weird?

Thinking it looks rubbish is an opinion and everyone can have an opinion, can't they?

Exactly.As far as I know, women who have had something done don't go around telling people to get their miserable wrinkled and droopy faces sorted by making use of the products and procedures that are readily available.

(I'm not saying ageing is bad or that women who haven't had anything done are wrinkled and droopy- before everyone starts hurling buns- but that's the equivalent insult of 'everyone who has had work done looks awful'.)

I'm not that wrinkled but I am getting droopy and I don't mind people saying so. I'm also very vain, probably the vainest person I know, I just draw a line in the sand when it comes to medical procedures. I think there have been many different opinions aired on this thread and I think it's a little bit unfair to only focus on the more judgemental ones.

For the first time since she's been presenting it, I saw AH on This Morning today. Her appearance was less remarkable than the fact she barely did a word. For the half an hour or so that I was watching, Philip Scofield asked most of the questions and did all of the links. I wasn't too sure what her purpose was.

We need to judge people less by their appearance - it really shouldn't matter, but more by what they do.

Oh, and some posts on this thread have been judgey in the extreme.

I think it's find to judge,we all do it every day. It's when you're rude it becomes an issue.

I did laugh when they were interviewing the couple the other day who shag a latex doll, her face didn't move a muscle, bet she grateful for so much botox

See, I think implying on a public forum that you think someone looks like a blow up sex toy is unnecessary and just plain nasty.

"Thinking it looks rubbish is an opinion ". Unfortunately it is an inaccurate opinion since those people who claim to be able to tell everyone who has had fillers or botox. will definitely not be able to tell a much as they think they can. Yet they feel able to come out with judgy and hurtful comments like that.

Latex dolls can't move their faces as far as I know.

I did NOT say AH looked like a blow up doll

Philip and AH were interviewing a couple who shagged a latex doll, it was hilarious and the pair of them were trying not to laugh, Amanda's face twitched just a tad. I'd have been crying laughing and would have been very grateful for an over botoxed face in that situation. Philip must've been biting on the inside of his cheeks!

I wouldn't like the moral disapproval but I don't think it's making a moral judgement to say you don't like the look of something. And it wouldn't distress me either if someone said they didn't like the look of wrinkles although I might disagree with them. It's just someone's opinion. If you can't say on Style and Beauty that you don't think something looks good ... well what are we even doing here?

I have two friends who loathe grey hair, they can't understand anyone who would voluntarily let themselves go grey. I got fed up of dying my hair and embraced the grey. They were horrified,I wasn't hurt, it was their opinion which they are entitled to. Just as I am entitled to the opinion that badly dyed hair is worse than grey could ever be. They can think what they like!

Yes Dame of course he grey hair scenario is an opinion. But claiming that you can tell anyone who has had fillers/botox, and saying that they all look rubbish is not just an opinion. It is an impossibility. You cannot tell everyone who has had it done, so therefore you cannot say that all people who have botox/fillers look rubbish.

I saw the episode where they were talking to Prof Nicolaides about stillbirth and miscarriage. I was particularly interested as I was briefly his patient myself at one time. A caller-in was recounting his own sad story, and of course Amanda has had sad experiences of loss herself. You could see that she wanted to be sympathetic, and there was the ghost of a dark shadow in her eyes, but her forehead moved not a millimetre, as though she was plastic from the eyebrows up. Very strange.

Here-I saw that too,I really felt for her but I agree it was so odd.

Ok Agatha

practically every woman in the media has had something done- Fiona Bruce is not that unlined at 50 for example without something tweaked.
There are women who look ridiculous due to over-filling and over-Botoxing but there are many, many more who look great- and you'd never know they'd had something done.
Just like there are women with great breasts through implants and others with 2 half oranges stuck on their chests.

For me, it's the negative comments about holding back the years and suggesting all women ought to embrace ageing that is judgy. If someone is happy to embrace ageing and really genuinely is at ease with their face and doesn't want any procedures- fine. But if someone else wants to have some light touching up, then so be it. It's not a moral issue- surely?

Fiona Bruce is not an example of a natural look by any stretch of the imagination. I do like her though after seeing her loose it in France when they authorities wouldn't let her bring a painting back to the UK for antiques roadshow. She's quite feisty!

Lose not loose-bloody phone!

Obviously it's not a moral issue.
What is immoral is exploiting peoples insecurities for money.
People can do what they want to their faces but at the moment they are made to feel bad and ugly and lazy if they don't change their faces.

I have Botox and it's great. I'm not a mega glam type and there's no way you'd guess or think I looked odd. It makes the difference between me looking like a crosspatch or looking normal.

Always irritates me when people say. 'Its a poison'. Practically everything's a poison in the wrong frigging dose!

Amanda Holden denied having had any more botox since the birth of her second child on This Morning today. Do you believe her? I certainly don't I saw her book signing in December (was shopping in WHSMith at the time) and could not believe quite what she looked like. I have always thought her a pretty woman but when she stood next to a person with a normal face she looked freaky and frozen. I don't know if that is botox or fillers but when I saw the photographs in the paper the next day she looked so much better than in real life, they must photoshop them in newspapers. She is very slim and there is no way in her 40s she would have an unlined face and be so slim.

I have to say i didnt recognise her in a photo i saw! I was shocked. In the drama set in Africa [ cant remember the name] She was just beautiful.So sad that stars need to resort to this intervention. Noone can hang on to youth no matter what they do. You have to love what you are now not what you were. Make the best of everything, wrinkles the lot and accept them as who you are now. I am 47 today. I am blessed and i know it...i have very few wrinkles...and while i look in my thirties, i have come a long way from what i looked when i was younger. I am different now and intend on making the most of every decade! Its only sad that people in showbiz have this idea they will be put on the scrap heap if they dont resort to things like botox. I really wish that if stars accepted themselves...pressure would lessen for the rest of us. They seem to set the norm that eventually feeds into ordinary folk lives. i suppose perpetuating the idea that age has no value in society. It actually annoys me!