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Amanda Holden Bad Botox

423 replies

Zanzibaragain · 29/09/2014 10:41

Dear lord her face looks terrible on This Morning.
Is it the botox or the fillers that makes a face look so weird?

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noddyholder · 29/09/2014 22:12

I don't agree if you have as little as I do

Greengardenpixie · 29/09/2014 22:22

Agree with all the other people who have responded about botox and also totally agree that i do agree that it can bes the thin edge of the wedge. Where do you stop? When it no longer works? What happens then? I am 46 and fast approaching 47. Every year its another wrinkle or something else. I have found it hard to accept that any looks i had are fading...but i will try and look my best for the age i am now. In a few years i will look back and envy the person i am now! Although you can fix your face, age will happen everywhere. My neck is the place that looks like shit..but hey ho..this is me now. My hands are ageing and i am noticing crepiness on my legs. So there is nothing more to do than to get out of bed and just be happy to be the person you are!
And btw, i do dye my hair but i have been tempted to leave it...and i will probably when i am 50. Not quite ready for that. [ i have been dying my hair since i have been in my twenties. I started young]

noddyholder · 29/09/2014 22:29

My face doesn't look odd with my body though I don't have a saggy neck etc and I don't look young If you want to look younger it doesn't do that. I look less tired and I still have lines. I can move my face! genetics does play a part though in face structure etc

noddyholder · 29/09/2014 22:30

What will make you magically not care when you are 50? Thats not how life is if you dye your hair for 30 years how do you know you will stop? Why not never dye it? You don't feel different ime

pinkfrocks · 29/09/2014 22:32

I think it's rather bitchy and judgemental to say people ought not to have anything done. (it's taut BTW Mignonette)

Clearly some slebs go OTT but there are plenty of people who have a tiny bit of work done which makes a big difference.

If you want to say don't do anything then that should include hair colourant, using make up, having teeth whitened, blah blah.

It's bollocks to say Botox ( or fillers) comes ' from a revulsion at our faces in their natural state'.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in trying to stay looking good without looking ridiculous by being over-treated.

And if you want your hands, neck, cleavage and any area done then it can be done!

I think it's sour grapes and maybe even lack of financial means that makes some people come over as judgemental.

SofaCanary · 29/09/2014 22:34

I think it's sour grapes and maybe even lack of financial means that makes some people come over as judgemental

That's kind of how it's coming across to me too.

Floisme · 29/09/2014 22:38

This argument that people don't mind looking older, they just want to look rested/well/happier/less angry - I hear it a lot and I've never understood it. Looking tired/cross/miserable/grumpy - that's exactly what looking older looks like. You don't just wake up one day with a face like a bag of walnuts. I don't see how you can separate them.

Greengardenpixie · 29/09/2014 22:39

I disagree, i could afford it if i wanted it and im sure that many others could also afford it but choose not to have it.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 29/09/2014 22:39

It really isn't,I can afford to get it done and any other cosmetic procedures want done if I so wish, well, up to say 15k. I wouldn't though.

Greengardenpixie · 29/09/2014 22:41

Oh dear...looking tired, cross, miserable and grumpy it what old looks like. i have a lot to look forward to then!
My mum is 80 and doesnt look any of these things!

Floisme · 29/09/2014 22:42

Well your mum is very lucky, Greengardenpixie. I look all of those things already Smile

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 29/09/2014 22:42

I think Sharon Osbourne looked amazing at first she looked really fresh and just a 'better' version of herself. Now she looks over done and odd.

Injecting things into yourself and hacking bits off etc is horrific imo.

noddyholder · 29/09/2014 22:43

I don't look any of those nor do I look particularly old for my age or young

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 29/09/2014 22:44

My mum is 63 she looks incredible. Not even 'for her age' she just looks amazing.

noddyholder · 29/09/2014 22:49

SO I have had it 5 times in 6 years and have less every time and still my face will look odd? I am surprised none of my friends have told me I look weird

Floisme · 29/09/2014 22:53

I don't look amazing or incredible but I scrub up reasonably well and I still enjoy trying to look the best I can. In fact, in a funny kind of way, I enjoy it even now than when I was young. It's harder but more satisfying.

itsbetterthanabox · 29/09/2014 22:55

Botox doesn't make people look younger it's odd. They still look older but with smoother skin. I can never work out what it is that still makes them look older hmm

lurkingaround · 29/09/2014 22:58

I don't know why some say that botox equals a lineless, incongruous face. It doesn't and it shouldn't (IMO). I know plenty who have had quite a bit 'done' (not surgery) and you would never know. They don't look any younger, they just look very well for their age. I think that's the goal. Choose your practitioner well. IMO a taut shiny face is a very poorly treated face.
How far you take it depends on each person, and we all have our own lines (get me with the pun) that we won't cross. While I think Amanda has taken it a line (oops there I go again) too far, that's her choice. What is sad about it, is that her industry demands it.

noddyholder · 29/09/2014 22:59

I think facial structire is what makes you look younger if you are lucky enough to have a delay in the sagging etc that happens eventually although the women in my family are very lucky. I had a few deep lines from not wearing my glasses the doctor said the forehead didn't match the rest! I have to say I agree my lower face is not much different to when I was 40 but my forehead has always been lined

lurkingaround · 29/09/2014 23:05

Oh yy to facial structure! If only you could buy it, waah! It is key.

Floisme · 29/09/2014 23:05

I'm the opposite, Noddy. Upper face doesn't too bad if I say so myself. Lower face has gone through the floor Sad

RonaldMcDonald · 30/09/2014 00:08

I thought some of that commentary seemed a bit twattish tbh

I think I'll worry about my sliding/overripe/soufflé face if and when I get to that stage

Right now I look great and frankly that's my aim
I'm not delusional and am highly vain and critical of even the smallest errors in 'work'
Botox and fillers will do more for your skin than any anti aging firming tightening smoothing guff in a pot. Use them plus a daily SPF and you'll be quids and yrs in.

Floisme · 30/09/2014 07:21

I agree that at least Botox can do what it says on the tin and I reserve my real venom for anti ageing creams and serums. But I look at these threads about 'number 11s' sometimes and wonder what the hell is going on. I'm old enough to remember the days when everyone had frown lines and you know what, nobody gave a toss. Yet now they're seen as a problem and the people who succeeded in making them a problem are raking it in.

And when they've made as much money as they can out of frown lines they'll go and look for something else to make us feel insecure, probably something we're not even aware of at the moment. I think we're being taken for a ride.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 30/09/2014 07:45

I've seen threads about on here about people wanting smooth arm pits like Lilly Allen's,l mean Ffs arm pitsConfused Half a bottle of foundation slapped on should do the trick!

You're right, then it'll be something else...and then something else.

No one but a doll or new baby has smooth arm pits and I'm neither.

Rant overHmm Grin

mignonette · 30/09/2014 07:54

Yes I know it's taut. That was a daft error (lack of sleep) . But thanks for the spelling lesson anyway. Wink

I'd rather spend my money on fabulous shoes and clothes, education, holidays, books, experiences. I'd not put that crap in my face for all the money in the world. It really has nothing to do with finances- t's only a couple of hundred pounds per treatment anyway (isn't it for people who cannot afford face lifts anyway- not that I'd ever do that either?) and hardly the preserve of the wealthy. Smile

Noddy- several people I know have been having it. I wouldn't tell them they look weird. They haven't asked, so I haven't volunteered the info. But they do look odd and they went to a good clinic- you'd probably recognise the name. After a few years I am afraid it all looks incongruous with what is going on elsewhere in the face and body and there's nothing that'll rectify both (1) that process and (2) the incongruousness between the two once you are on that path.

I don't use stupid creams that claim to alter DNA and all that guff either. Thankfully I have enough biological and chemical knowledge to not be fooled. Sadly these companies take advantage of people who do not. Teeth whitening - well we know that done badly this is damaging so I wouldn't do that. Good dental care and regular hygienist visits (the scandal of poor dental provision in the UK is a whole other issue!) and hair treatments are all reversible so do not compare. They do not involve injecting chemicals into your face, rolling spiked implements over it, cutting it open and other invasive procedures. They are totally different and you know it. Go far, far down that road and it'll be let's all stop taking antibiotics, using preventative care (and sorry, Botox doesn't count Wink) and let nature take its course hey?