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Amanda Holden Bad Botox

423 replies

Zanzibaragain · 29/09/2014 10:41

Dear lord her face looks terrible on This Morning.
Is it the botox or the fillers that makes a face look so weird?

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itsbetterthanabox · 02/10/2014 22:52

Of course men look old. But they are ok with it as they aren't pressured into using things like cosmetic surgery to look younger.

Suzannewithaplan · 02/10/2014 22:55

men are ok with getting old?
men dont have cosmetic surgery?

itsbetterthanabox · 02/10/2014 22:59

Yes. The majority of plastic and cosmetic surgery customers are women. A small minority of men do but many, many women do.

Floisme · 02/10/2014 23:28

Oy I'm vain too! You can be vain and still choose not to have cosmetic surgery.

Suzannewithaplan · 03/10/2014 01:19

I'm increasingly seeing men who have had botox, ime men want to retain a youthful appearance just as much as women do

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 03/10/2014 06:57

Your idea of looking good must be very different to mine as I see loss of 40+ men who look great.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 03/10/2014 06:57

Lots not loss

Floisme · 03/10/2014 07:31

More men are having procedures but many more women are too so I'm not sure whether the proportion has changed if you see what I mean. Men are being targeted because they're a largely untapped market. Same with women under 40 or even 30.

pinkfrocks · 03/10/2014 08:36

I read some time ago that the number of men having eye jobs- bags and hoods- is rising very very fast.
I have a friend who has Botox and she tells me that the waiting room always has guys in it.

AgathaF · 03/10/2014 08:50

I think men do feel the pressure to look good. I only need to look around my gym and see all the men pouring with sweat trying to improve their appearance to know that. Mens grooming is a big market now. You could argue that men are just buying it because it's available, but actually men have attempted to improve their appearance for decades and longer. Brylcream was a staple grooming product for men for years.

AH, like every other person I know that's had anything 'done' to their face, looks demented. Neither old nor young...the only thing I see is vanity and insecurity - inaccurate, judgemental crap.

noddyholder · 03/10/2014 08:53

Lol @ demented how ridiculous

Fabulassie · 03/10/2014 09:50

It's more likely that you only know the ones who have done something because you can see it.

I've never seen lip injections that look good (and I've Googled before and after pics) but it is absolutely possible to have Botox on your forehead and look perfectly normal.

Suzannewithaplan · 03/10/2014 10:36

past mid to late 40s men just seem to go to seed, swelling bellies, breasts, double chins, sun damaged skin etc

Roussette · 03/10/2014 10:48

Don't agree Suzanne, sweeping generalisation there, my DH hasn't gone to seed and he is 20 years on from his forties. He looks damn good for his age! He's just come back from a work trip and he walked through the door and I thought how handsome and fit he looked!

leedy · 03/10/2014 10:54

I'm fine with people doing whatever they want to their whatevers, I'm as vain as they come and have more lipstick than I know what to do with, but I'm finding the HORROR OF LOOKING/BEING OLD in this thread kind of depressing. Older women look wrinkled and exhausted with 11s and tear troughs and sagging and god knows what else that needs to be filled and erased! Older men go to seed with hideous skin and bellies and chins!

Mr L and I are in our early 40s and I'm pretty sure we don't have people fleeing from our repugnant visages just yet, suspect we are not going to suddenly become repulsive in a year or two if we don't have "work". And I know plenty of men and women in their late 40s/early 50s and beyond who still look pretty damn hot. I mean, they don't look young, but they still look attractive. To be honest, I think a lot of it is bone structure, not whether your skin has sagged/wrinkled a bit.

Suzannewithaplan · 03/10/2014 10:54

my OH is also an adonis, but obviously our partners are the exception, most men I see are in pretty poor shape

Fabulassie · 03/10/2014 12:55

I don't think men really do age better than women. It's about the same. However, the difference is that visual signs of wisdom and experience are not interpreted the same way for men as for women. Men are seeing as accruing power as they age. Women are not.

pinkfrocks · 03/10/2014 15:08

Many men are in bad shape but so are many women- what's the stats- 68% of women are obese or overweight and something like 50+% men?
My DH is in great shape, exercises seriously and uses skin creams with high SPFs all year round and is often taken for being 10 years at least younger than he is. It just takes a bit of effort.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 03/10/2014 15:25

I'm much more likely to notice if someone smiles than if they have a few wrinkles. I think some people must view the world in a very different way to me Grin

itsbetterthanabox · 03/10/2014 16:18

Nobody said men don't age. It's just they don't have the same pressures on them to change themselves with surgery when they do age.
You can't compare a man exercising are using sunblock to women having cosmetic surgery and using makeup everyday. One is to combat the health effects of ageing and one is to look younger.

itsbetterthanabox · 03/10/2014 16:19

It's rude to call being bigger going to 'seed' too.

noddyholder · 03/10/2014 16:22

I am more inclined to notice someones smile too You are no different!

NewName123 · 03/10/2014 16:40

She's just overdone it a bit recently. She needs to let it wear off a bit. A frozen forehead looks painful.
Her forehead has been frozen with Botox which has caused her brows to drop and close her eyes up.

Suzannewithaplan · 03/10/2014 17:10

It's rude to call being bigger going to 'seed' too

OK itsbetterthanabox, well, I meant just a general decline in physical condition of which getting fat is part.

I'm not sure if you object to the phrase 'going to seed' or is it the implication that getting fatter constitutes a decline in physical condition?

itsbetterthanabox · 03/10/2014 18:44

I don't like the phrase 'going to seed' although you saying it proves my point that men don't feel as much pressure as women to appear physically younger than they are.
Also weight has nothing to do with how old someone looks. There are fat young people and thin old people and they all look different she's.