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Step kids want to live with us full time.

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh · 22/08/2023 02:30

My dh has two children to a previous relationship. They are with us Friday to Monday every other weekend. I have one child and we have one child together.

Our blended family works fairly well. Step kids are lovely and a credit to their mother. Dh is a bit of a Disney dad, but does put a lot of time into them.

I have a great relationship with the kids, but this is because I don’t parent them at all, as in I don’t force them to clean up, do homework etc. I just enjoy the fun parts of life with them.

Our time with them is fun, they have boundaries but it’s generally the fun house. The kids want to live here full time. I don’t think it’s a good idea because I am not going to put the time into parenting them like I do with my kids. My dh works until late so most of the parenting would be left to me.

The kid’s parents are negotiating what to do, but I don’t know if I should be honest about my concerns.

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Mumkins42 · 23/08/2023 19:19

Comments ref social services are just silly. They wouldn't give a stuff.

OP is it possible you could take on more of a parent role if your partner gave more to support you. For example - homework and consequences re homework not being done are his responsibility. I don't think it's fair that you have to do it all without him doing more also. I do feel sorry for the kids. There may be good reason they want to be with you more than just funtime Frankie. Their dad absolutely has to do more to help.

My child has a stepmum so I'm trying not to just jump on you for not treating them the same. In reality you won't and that's real life I guess, but I find it really sad you can't find a bit more love and care to be interested in their lives and outcomes. Maybe this is partly resentment towards your partner for unrealistic expectations he puts on you? You need to talk to him about that in general when it comes to parenting his kids

Alstro · 23/08/2023 19:20

This is indeed what people would do that are being coerced by relatives or strangers

Coerced as in physically threatening?

Alstro · 23/08/2023 19:22

Apologies commented above on wrong thread!

Notreallyhappy · 23/08/2023 19:24

@SheilaFentiman the dad could of washed the clothes.. the smum could of washed the clothes. The mum.is treating the dsc different as I doubt her own 2 children has dirty clothes. I must of been a caring step mum. Mine dss came to stay for a weekend after a row with his mum, and left 7 years later, when he moved into a house with his mates.

Pallisers · 23/08/2023 19:26

LadyBird1973 · 22/08/2023 23:47

I think 50/50 will result in the kids doing no homework at dad's, then mum frantically trying to get it all done during her time.

The best thing OP and her dh could do for these kids is to tell them that mummy does a better job of looking after them and they are going to stay there ! Children shouldn't be choosing where they live anyway, certainly not on the basis that one house is more fun than the other. Parents should decide where the children live, in the basis of who can care for them the best. It clearly isn't their father so they should be the end of it!

I agree with this. The children should not be deciding where they live (especially as this seems to be based on a weekend every second week where they aren't expected to eat their vegetables or do their homework etc).

OP's DH is a poor parent. Clearly he does none of the actual boring parenting for his child with the OP either. He has 2 women actually rearing his children for him and his children thinking he is great. And loads of women on MN blaming the latest woman for not doing enough for his children. I often wonder what it would be like to be a man. It is like an alternative universe

Stravaig · 23/08/2023 19:35

You need to be crystal clear with your partner, and with the kids Mum. You only signed up to actively parent your own two children, and to hands off step-parent their two children every other weekend. You have not, and do not, and will not sign up to actively parent all four children full time.

Wally1983 · 23/08/2023 19:35

When mine moved in I was the one who essentially became mum and did everything for them along with my own. Did I resent it? Nope! Do I think back now and think that was mental…yes I do! However, I don’t get the washing of clothes and making a couple of pack lunches being an issue.
if this happens, which it sounds like 50/50 will then you’ll all have to adjust - make that VERY clear to them all, Oh & all kids. They live there, they help clear up dinner, they keep their rooms tidy, they adjust. It’s no longer a “visit” it’s a live at home and rules will be in place, things like bedtimes etc too. Set every rule you want for everyone and stick to them! Oh, well he has to adjust his work to accommodate the clubs they attend, come home and make lunches with them etc.

we had rules and for the most part they were listened too but the school runs, the washing, the mundane mum life was left to me and I don’t think it’s right!! With two other kids at home then everyone adjusts but more so your oh who must step up for ALL of you in the home! He could take charge of lunches for all for example whether that’s make them or pay them all, take that off your brain.
good luck with your quest to get things running like clockwork but without you having to do it all!

Happilyobtuse · 23/08/2023 19:47

Your DH needs to step up for sure. But I find it really sad to think that you and your DH have not bothered to have a chat about kids uniforms and lunches and decide who would be in charge on a regular basis. After all, surely all the kids in the household need washed and ironed clothes for school and either a packed lunch or lunch money in their parent pay school account. You are a family, does your DH treat your DC different from your shared DC? I think chores have to be divided between adults and older kids in the family. This your kid/my kid stuff is ridiculous! Why marry someone with kids if you can’t treat their kids like your own!

zombie0037 · 23/08/2023 19:49

But you for your Stepkids dad to be a full time dad to your kid, how would you feel, if he decided, he doesn't want your kid there anymore double standards.

Julimia · 23/08/2023 19:51

What a lovely step mum you obviously are. The children are very lucky. I suspect however that the relationship would(have to) change if it became a permanent situation. You need to speak up ...now.

LaDamaDeElche · 23/08/2023 19:52

When I read threads like this I realise how lucky I am with DP. He treats DD like his own. I find these kind of threads a real eye-opener as to how so many step-children are treated so differently to their siblings. It does pose the question whether blended families actually work on the whole.

Mikimoto · 23/08/2023 19:53

OP sounds a bit like Mark from Peep Show: "I'll send the other kids to school dirty...so I WIN!!"

CherryPieMadness · 23/08/2023 19:59

The kids mother needs to be supported better, she is the one doing the lion share of the work into parenting, and it sounds like ‘Disney Dad’ is undermining her by making his time all fun - which makes the Mum look like ‘bad cop’.

Of course it’s never going to work the kids living there more, of course the OP will turn into ‘mum’ and the kids will resent that, its’ what they moved to get away from, and their Dad will just stand back and do same as to his Ex, remain detached and ‘fun’ which means - he won’t actually parent them.

Bambiwithlonglegs · 23/08/2023 20:04

Put your foot down asap and stand up for yourself! Otherwise you will be the doormat for his kids while they both decide what you are doing!

Bertiesmum3 · 23/08/2023 20:09

MrsWhites · 22/08/2023 05:55

Perhaps either ‘parent’ in this situation, they have a blended family - surely between Friday and Monday it wouldn’t be too much trouble for someone to throw a wash on?

Here Here!!
surely when they put on a load of their own washing they can chuck in the children’s uniform!

Backagain23 · 23/08/2023 20:11

OP isn't not doing the step kids washing.
She's not doing any washing over the weekend, not picking theirs out the basket and only washing for her own kids.
It's been explained repeatedly.

MarshaArt · 23/08/2023 20:35

LadyBird1973 · 22/08/2023 07:40

That poor mum - she loves them, makes sure they are properly cared for, makes them do their homework and they want to bugger off and live with 'fun' dad, who can't be fucked to even put their clothes in a washing machine! You both owe it to her not to allow this change to take place. And tell the kids that mummy looks after them better because dad is a lazy bastard at work a lot!

And absolute shame on you for sending those children to school in dirty clothes and with no food!

Yes, this.

Barney60 · 23/08/2023 20:45

Been here done that, it didnt work, sadly fun house was worse than living with mum it was awful, ex was hell, turning up at the door every time i tried to parent, ended up with you cant tell me what to do your not my mum ect, it actually split our marriage up, be very very careful.

anniegun · 23/08/2023 20:45

Why did you get together with a man who already had kids?

Toomuchtrouble4me · 23/08/2023 20:52

MintJulia · 22/08/2023 05:04

Tell your dh bluntly, that he will need to reduce his working hours if he is serious.

If he wants his dcs to live with him full time, he will be doing their washing, ironing, parenting, taking them to clubs and friends, helping them with homework, cleaning and tidying up after them. Organising school holidays and managing Christmases and birthdays. That's in addition to doing his share with your shared children.

You don't say what their mum's attitude is to their planned change of residence, but I suggest you get her involved, as only she can explain how much time these children actually take up.

Does she still do school run? Do they need chasing over homework. Will your dh need to cook and shop for them? Do they need ferrying to clubs?

You could have a trial run. Have them to stay for a week. Leave everything, and I mean EVERYTHING to your dh. If possible leave him with yours as well, and go and stay with your parents or a friend. 🙂

This seems odd to me. Surely you don’t separate SC’s washing from the other kids etc. plus Op’s own child from another partner lives with them - presumably DH doesn’t treat the two that live with him differently?

Toomuchtrouble4me · 23/08/2023 21:00

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh · 22/08/2023 07:48

Sorry I haven’t explained the situation very well. The kids are cared for. When I say I don’t parent them it means I don’t make sure the washing is done, I assume their dad has organised care in the morning when we both have to work and I have already got 2 kids to get ready. I feed them but don’t argue about eating vegetables. I reminded them to do their homework and help if asked but I don’t make sure they do it. I pick them up on a Friday after school when they are here. I sometimes take them places they need to go like sport, but I don’t always stay and watch. If my kids have something on that will always take priority.

I don’t do all the things I do for my kids because I just don’t have time. If they live here they will often not have their lunch packed or clean uniform. They will miss out on their activities because my kids have something on or because I don’t want to drag my youngest out yet again. Despite their dads good intentions it will all get left to me and I won’t do it and they aren’t listening to me.

Their dad isn’t useless, but definitely a Disney dad. He does a lot with them, but the little one important stuff gets missed.

But surely whoever does packed lunch for the other two would do theirs? And wash their uniforms! How would you feel if DH made your shared child a packed lunch but sent your own DC without one.
They are less important to you that your other two children but do you need to make it quite so obvious to them?
I REALLY hope that they stay with their mother.

Zanatdy · 23/08/2023 21:03

If they come. Get an Alexa, and set up up with reminders for your DH. You can set weekly, so every Friday 7pm, washing. Saturday midday - reminder for washing. Sunday evening - ironing (if you bother, I don’t now). Monday morning - make packed lunch (and Sunday 2pm, packed lunch items!). I must admit I use a lot of reminder, not for basic stuff like this; but to remind me to do stuff. No way should you do it

Winnipeg23 · 23/08/2023 21:34

Mikimoto · 23/08/2023 19:53

OP sounds a bit like Mark from Peep Show: "I'll send the other kids to school dirty...so I WIN!!"

Oh behave! OP no it doesn't sound like that at all. The dad is responsible for HIS kids and HE isn't washing their clothes and looking after them so HIS kids go to school in dirty clothes...which btw won't kill them or concern social services one little bit.
U know if u don't act now, u will be left doing everything by default.
I'd insist DH actually does the work part of raising his kids during the time they are currently with you all, before u will consider extending the time.
Ur right to be worried. Red flags!

PinkCherryBlossoms · 23/08/2023 21:38

Toomuchtrouble4me · 23/08/2023 21:00

But surely whoever does packed lunch for the other two would do theirs? And wash their uniforms! How would you feel if DH made your shared child a packed lunch but sent your own DC without one.
They are less important to you that your other two children but do you need to make it quite so obvious to them?
I REALLY hope that they stay with their mother.

RTFT.

Katbum · 23/08/2023 21:46

You need to say no. Tell them you are not willing to put yourself or the children in that situation. Use your words.

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