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What happens re maintenance in this situation ?

375 replies

Chenillerug · 18/11/2022 18:03

If a father is paying maintenance as has a good income so was paying enough to allow ex to just work part time but now he has given up work to be a carer so I assume it will go through the csa not a private arrangement and how is it worked out?

Ex is very unhappy but we have said although maintenance will drop we could actually have sd more so that ex can work full time which is reasonable but apparently not ?

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IntrovertedPenguin · 18/11/2022 18:05

A carer as on carers allowance? Your post is not clear at all.

Chenillerug · 18/11/2022 18:06

IntrovertedPenguin · 18/11/2022 18:05

A carer as on carers allowance? Your post is not clear at all.

Yes on carers allowance

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IntrovertedPenguin · 18/11/2022 18:07

I believe it's £7 per week they'd need to pay if they claim carers allowance and no other wages.

Endofmyteatherr · 18/11/2022 18:07

The ex would get UC most likely so what exactly is the father allowing?

PeekAtYou · 18/11/2022 18:08

Maintenance is a percentage of income. It sounds like she'll get nothing now.

PeekAtYou · 18/11/2022 18:10

She might not be in a job that allows extra hours to be picked up easily. I understand why she's not impressed - he's being financially enabled (presumably by you) to pay minimal (£7pw) maintenance

Azerothi · 18/11/2022 18:11

Is the father your boyfriend and do you live togther?

J0CASTA · 18/11/2022 18:11

Yes lots of men decide to give up work so they don’t have to pay child support. It’s a pretty common trick. Your partner might think that he’s very clever but his child will soon work out what he has done ( or will do when they are older ) and why and hate him.

Stillprocessing · 18/11/2022 18:13

Who is he caring for?

Chenillerug · 18/11/2022 18:13

PeekAtYou · 18/11/2022 18:08

Maintenance is a percentage of income. It sounds like she'll get nothing now.

we wouldn’t pay nothing I just wasn’t sure how it works as we get / will be getting when sorted out carers / UC / pip /dla so didn’t know if it has to go through the csa because of being fully on benefits or if he can continue a private arrangement. We just thought the offer for more help with sd if she needs to work more would be helpful to save costs for wraparound care etc

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Soontobe60 · 18/11/2022 18:13

I’m confused! Who’s the father, who’s given up work, who’s being the carer, who’s being cared for?

WeDontNeedToTalkAboutJamie · 18/11/2022 18:13

My ex pays nothing because he claims carers allowance for his step child.

My opinion of him is very very low. Lower than low.

Chenillerug · 18/11/2022 18:14

J0CASTA · 18/11/2022 18:11

Yes lots of men decide to give up work so they don’t have to pay child support. It’s a pretty common trick. Your partner might think that he’s very clever but his child will soon work out what he has done ( or will do when they are older ) and why and hate him.

He has given up work to be a carer not to get out of paying maintenance!

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WeDontNeedToTalkAboutJamie · 18/11/2022 18:14

Chenillerug · 18/11/2022 18:13

we wouldn’t pay nothing I just wasn’t sure how it works as we get / will be getting when sorted out carers / UC / pip /dla so didn’t know if it has to go through the csa because of being fully on benefits or if he can continue a private arrangement. We just thought the offer for more help with sd if she needs to work more would be helpful to save costs for wraparound care etc

It doesn't have to go through CMS.

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/11/2022 18:17

What can you afford to offer her? Is the existing contact arrangement court ordered or private?

No one can stop him having a private arrangement for finances, she might choose to use the CMS but she won’t get much from caters allowance. DLA is for the person needing care, not their carer’s ex.

MintJulia · 18/11/2022 18:18

If you mean your dp has dropped this on his ex without warning, it is pretty unfair.

I assume she has rent or mortgage to pay and suddenly finds herself hundreds short per month. Unless the children are very small, I can't imagine they will be happy to see their mother put under such pressure of losing their home.

And they will work it out!

SweetChild0mine · 18/11/2022 18:18

@Chenillerug £7 a week

Your caters allowance won't be considered

If you're both going to be at home would you be able to have the children more to enable her to work to support herself and children?

SweetChild0mine · 18/11/2022 18:20

SweetChild0mine · 18/11/2022 18:18

@Chenillerug £7 a week

Your caters allowance won't be considered

If you're both going to be at home would you be able to have the children more to enable her to work to support herself and children?

Apologies I thought you were his carer

He will pay £7 a week on the nil assessment

anon2022anon · 18/11/2022 18:20

If it is your partner, and you are still working, you could work out what maintenance would be due if household income was his income. Never understood why it wasn't worked out that way, the goverment is happy to base calculations for student loans on household income, and reduce CM on the basis there are other children in the non resident parents house.
I appreciate that you may not work, but offering it out there as a suggestion.

amiold · 18/11/2022 18:21

anon2022anon · 18/11/2022 18:20

If it is your partner, and you are still working, you could work out what maintenance would be due if household income was his income. Never understood why it wasn't worked out that way, the goverment is happy to base calculations for student loans on household income, and reduce CM on the basis there are other children in the non resident parents house.
I appreciate that you may not work, but offering it out there as a suggestion.

They only reduce it slightly for a child living at NRP house. I think it drops 1% where non resident child gets 11%. It's pittance

toomuchlaundry · 18/11/2022 18:21

How are you going to survive on carers allowance?

RFPO77 · 18/11/2022 18:21

Who is your DP caring for?

Chenillerug · 18/11/2022 18:25

RFPO77 · 18/11/2022 18:21

Who is your DP caring for?

Me and I m a carer for our dc. I haven’t worked for quite a while as have been getting carers allowance but I have a health condition that has significantly worsened so that’s why he is giving up to be a carer. We have to switch to UC from the old tax credits system and we’re not sure if now we have to go to apply to csa as well as didn’t know if it all had to be dealt with under UC or if we could continue a private arrangement

Maintenance and contact has always been a private arrangement

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Fizzadora · 18/11/2022 18:27

So you are the father's partner. Father has been paying a good level of maintenance under a private arrangement - so more than CSA, which meant that mother could afford to work part time, likely to be claiming UC too as she doesn't need to declare the maintenance so probably pretty comfortable).
Father has now given up his job to be a carer to you(?) because of health issues and you are asking if CSA rules will now apply, which likely means she will get little to no maintenance.
You have told mother that you will provide more childcare to offset the loss of maintenance paid so she can work full time but she is not happy with this.

Well she wouldn't be happy would she. She's losing her maintenance, won't be able to claim UC and she'll have to get off her arse and work more hours.

Chenillerug · 18/11/2022 18:27

SweetChild0mine · 18/11/2022 18:18

@Chenillerug £7 a week

Your caters allowance won't be considered

If you're both going to be at home would you be able to have the children more to enable her to work to support herself and children?

That’s what we suggested as we live nearby so it would be easy for us to help in ways like that. Mostly I just wasn’t sure how the maintenance would work as when I looked on gov I couldn’t see much about if the parent stops working or if we were able to continue private arrangements. £7 per week is far too low obviously!!!

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