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Expecting to see DC every weekend

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onemore123 · 22/11/2021 10:25

My DP of 18 months has his DD every Friday to Sunday morning.
I have been spending some time with them both but for last 6 months it seems that we spend every weekend together.

It wouldn't be an issue, but it seems that it become an expectation that I'm with them every weekend. I went to see friends last Saturday and it caused and argument. It appeared that DP thinks of us as a family and says we might as well stop seeing each other at all if I would rather spend time with friends than them.
As silly as it sounds, I feel trapped now and guilty for wanting to do something different at the weekend. How can I tell him that I'm not going to spend every weekend with them without him being hurt and relationship ending?
Has anyone been through similar?

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Magda72 · 22/11/2021 14:20

@onemore123 oh dear god - RUN!
Run as fast as your legs will carry you & don't look back.

SallyWD · 22/11/2021 14:38

I find his attitude very odd. You're not the child's mother but he seems to be expecting you to behave like you are. I AM my children's mother and even I still go off and see friends some weekends. I would feel uncomfortable staying in this relationship.

onemore123 · 22/11/2021 14:40

I have spoken with DP and told him I would rather he arranged childcare with his ex or someone else and that I will not be doing that. He said sure, he will do that.

I would want to save this relationship but if he won't manage his expectations regarding my role, I don't think there is anything to save. I don't want to be a childcare for his DD. I don't mind staying with her for half an hr so he can nip out to tesco to get some milk, but that's as far as it goes.

He is really good with his DD, looks after her well, organises time together with her, they are out and about a lot. It is just this expectation of me joining them all the time, and me feeling guilty when I don't!

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sunshinelover69 · 22/11/2021 14:48

Good for you OP - stick to your guns.

FWIW I am also a stepmum and I have NEVER looked after my husband's kids beyond more than the half an hour nipping out type scenario which you described. He also doesn't guilt me into doing stuff with them.

KylieKoKo · 22/11/2021 15:31

@sunshinelover69

Good for you OP - stick to your guns.

FWIW I am also a stepmum and I have NEVER looked after my husband's kids beyond more than the half an hour nipping out type scenario which you described. He also doesn't guilt me into doing stuff with them.

I have looked after SCs on my own for an extended period once and this was in their mum's house after her brother had a serious car accident while DP was working away. I did this as it was an emergency and seemed like the right thing to do.

I am not default childcare and neither is their mum's partner.

You need to nip this in the bud OP. He is using manipulative language to guilt you into a role that you don't want so he can avoid being inconvenienced by his own children.

Qwertyyui · 22/11/2021 15:33

When my DH has his 2 I generally do my own thing with either my DD or go and see friends/go to the gym/watch my own rubbish in my room. I spend time with them but not that much. They come to see him not me. I also spend time with friends etc when we don't have my DSC/DD. We live a life were I can do what I want as can he. He wouldn't expect me to be with him 24/7 kids or no kids. We did enough of that through Covid and I am enjoying my freedom/space as I imagine he is too. I wouldn't cope if I had to be with them 24/7!

girlmom21 · 22/11/2021 15:35

I have spoken with DP and told him I would rather he arranged childcare with his ex or someone else and that I will not be doing that. He said sure, he will do that.

Have you also made it very clear you'll see your friends when you like and he doesn't get to dictate?

FeckTheMagicDragon · 22/11/2021 15:39

I have to ask, why does he have her every weekend because he wants to? I though it would be good for a child to have some weekend down time with both parents (resident and non resident).

This attitude of you MUST be with them every weekend raises a whole load of red flags.

Fireflygal · 22/11/2021 15:44

I went to see friends last Saturday and it caused and argument

This is very worrying. Don't ignore this.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 22/11/2021 15:47

Ha ha ha at your update! What a clear example of someone who wants a woman to help him parent. Like he’s not even subtle: 6 hours on Saturdays Grin But since you’re already getting up early to kind his DD and let him breeze in and out to the shops you’ve already became the default care giver.

onemore123 · 22/11/2021 16:03

Her mum works Wednesday - very late Saturday, that's why DD is with DP always on these days.

I absolutely hate being guilt tripped and feeling I somehow must do what I don't want to. I think resentment is a sign of poor boundaries and a difficulty in saying 'no' to protect my own businesses, instead putting other's needs as a priority.

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sassbott · 22/11/2021 16:13

@onemore123 the longer I am on these boards, the more I am starting to think that there are two camps of men post divorce/ separation re their children.

In the first camp are the ‘healthy’ men. Those men are able to appropriately parent their children, have healthy boundaries when it comes to introducing children/ partner, are fully emotionally available outside their children (so available for an intimate relationship), able to meet their partners needs and are very secure in themselves - as father and as men. They probably have quite high EQ.

Then there are another bunch of men. Who are vary on the spectrum of how they show up post separation/ divorce. Are they secure in themselves as fathers? Are they emotionally available to meet the needs of a partner? How much have they resolved their issues on the loss of their ‘family’? Do they have a healthy respect that their needs around their children will not necessarily be the same priority for their partner. Or are they at least able to enter into a conversation where they can determine whether the person they have met wants the same things they do in life.

Your partner is being beyond unreasonable. If he has arranged contact such that he sees his child every weekend, it is for him to meet that child’s needs. If it is critical to him that he rebuild a ‘family’ and that family involves his partner, then that is his choice. Was he ever clear about this upfront however? I doubt he was as I imagine had he laid this out from the get go, you wouldn’t have hung around.

What a lot of these men also don’t seem to understand is that in the recreation of these ‘families’, no ones needs really get met (aside from their own), especially if it a forced set up. The children aren’t necessarily happy as the child gets no 121 time with their actual parent. The partner is not happy as suddenly their free time/ money/ energy is being consumed by a child that isn’t theirs/ or being guilted into being ‘family’.

This man chose to have this child, she’s his responsibility. Until you choose (if you want to) to have your own child, your life and your time is free to do as you please. I wouldn’t expect anyone to compromise consistently for my children. That’s my job.

Anyone who chooses to be hands on/ involved, that’s a different matter: but the choice needs to be theirs.

By all means try and work this through and communicate through these issues. IME however it is very hard to change the mindsets some of these men have around their child. They either have the healthy mindset of my child: my responsibility and recognise their partner has their needs/ their lives outside of their child. Or they don’t. There doesn’t seem to be a middle ground.

sassbott · 22/11/2021 16:19

Don’t be guilt tripped and there is no ‘must.’
I was told there was something wrong with me for not wanting to be involved on my exp’s contact weekends etc. There was nothing wrong with me, my boundaries were very intact and healthy.

I am a parent. I wouldn’t expect anyone (other than the father of my children) to make the compromises and choices we make around prioritisation of our children. Not even my immediate family. I wouldn’t dream of expecting any new partner to be joined at the hip with me when I had my children (I’d hate it actually, I love my 121 time with my kids). But that’s because I very secure in my role as mum, and also really clear that my ‘family’ is me and my kids. No man is going to come along and be part of that anytime soon. And if it was to happen, it would happen organically and over time. It wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) be forced.

MoverCat · 22/11/2021 17:25

Fuck that. It doesn't sound like there's much space for your relationship here.

It sounds like he wants you to be his DDs stand in mum on his days.

Forgothowmuchlhatehomeschoolin · 22/11/2021 18:56

My ex who I didn't have kids with got the hump with me once for planning to go out one evening.....he was invited but had been on the piss all day so didn't fancy it.
I told him in no uncertain terms if he didn't like me having friends he might as well piss off back home (moved here to be with me) cos that arrangement would not work for me.
Op this is not OK. Be strong. His kid, his responsibility.

FestiveMayo · 22/11/2021 19:05

@girlmom21

This thread should be moved to relationships because the fact he has a daughter is actually completely irrelevant here
I agree. Child or no child what he is asking is unreasonable and controlling and frankly you are best off out of there.
pictish · 22/11/2021 19:09

Oh no. He can just fuck off with that can’t he?

You see your friends whenever you like.

SpaceshiptoMars · 22/11/2021 20:49

Controlling men are not hard to find. If you leave this particular control freak, you can without much difficulty find one with fewer encumbrances.

@Tattler2
Well, that remark shouldn't be read at the same time as taking a mouthful of tea! Grin

NowEvenBetter · 23/11/2021 00:22

You’d think there was a shortage of men, it’s just relentless, thread after thread about some woman whose boyfriend is is pissing all over the bathroom/not doing anything other than existing on a biological level/reproducing left, right and centre and expecting the latest girlfriend to be guilted in to raising the various kids/generally behaving like a total fuckweasel and hey presto- a thread about how whatever bloke is ‘amazing’ (in general, not this particular OP) and a ‘great dad’ 😂
Women really, really, really need to up their game and stop falling for this shit.

NothingIsWrong · 23/11/2021 05:38

@NowEvenBetter

You’d think there was a shortage of men, it’s just relentless, thread after thread about some woman whose boyfriend is is pissing all over the bathroom/not doing anything other than existing on a biological level/reproducing left, right and centre and expecting the latest girlfriend to be guilted in to raising the various kids/generally behaving like a total fuckweasel and hey presto- a thread about how whatever bloke is ‘amazing’ (in general, not this particular OP) and a ‘great dad’ 😂 Women really, really, really need to up their game and stop falling for this shit.
As one of my friends said to me, "cock is abundant and of low value"
SinoohXaenaHide · 23/11/2021 05:54

Did his relationship with his DD"s mum break down due to him being a controlling arsehole?

Does he consider himself either incapable of or in some way exempt from the expectation of parenting solo when needed?

Does his DD's mum get a reasonable opportunity to have non-schoolday 1:1 time with her DD? Him having her every Friday and Saturday makes it very imbalanced about how much fun times vs daily grind the DD sees with each parent.

It's perfectly normal for adults with any relationship commitment level to do things separately with other adults sometimes. It's not a level of commitment thing, its about having varied individual interests. There's nothing wrong with doing your weekend with your mates.

But a bloke who expects yoi to shelve all other aspects of your life and put him and his DD at the central focus of your life only 6 months into the relationship - that's not a good bloke. Don't bother trying to resolve this specific argument - the whole relationship is doomed because he just fundamentally isn't a good partner. Best to get out before you get any further embroiled.

aSofaNearYou · 23/11/2021 08:43

@NowEvenBetter

You’d think there was a shortage of men, it’s just relentless, thread after thread about some woman whose boyfriend is is pissing all over the bathroom/not doing anything other than existing on a biological level/reproducing left, right and centre and expecting the latest girlfriend to be guilted in to raising the various kids/generally behaving like a total fuckweasel and hey presto- a thread about how whatever bloke is ‘amazing’ (in general, not this particular OP) and a ‘great dad’ 😂 Women really, really, really need to up their game and stop falling for this shit.
Tbf in my experience, there is a shortage of decent men.
Fireflygal · 23/11/2021 08:50

Tbf in my experience, there is a shortage of decent men

100%, plenty of men but very few good ones are single.

RedRobyn2021 · 23/11/2021 08:51

Woah red flag 🚩

candlelightsatdawn · 23/11/2021 08:57

100%, plenty of men but very few good ones are single.

And come without baggage, I'm not specifically mentioning children per say, so much as additional people that may effect your overall happiness levels.

Decent people tend to attract non decent people. Depends on the persons fly swatting abilities.

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