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Is it okay to admit that you'd leave if DSC ever had to come live with you full time?

591 replies

JustGreatThatIs · 11/08/2021 11:23

Whilst I do like my DSC, I just don't think I'd enjoy a life where they lived with us all of the tjme and so I believe that whilst I'd give it my best shot, it could inevitably lead to the end of me and DH.

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BadMotherLover · 15/08/2021 13:09

@chocolatesaltyballs22 you are not reading what I have written. You are mis-attributing views to me that I don't hold and have never written. I have hit a raw nerve and you don't like it.

sassbott · 15/08/2021 13:11

‘Fucked up a marriage?’
Why did everyone fuck up a marriage? I know people who very amicably made the choice to separate, remain friends and wouldn’t view that situation as ‘fucking up a marriage’. They put their happiness first and in doing so also acted in the best interests of their children.
Do you really think that it’s better for two unhappy people to stay together and model an unhealthy/ non intimate marriage to their children?

A separation (even amicable), yes there will have been consequences for the children. I doubt anyone would argue that the children didn’t find it hard to adjust (equally on the flip plenty of children confess to feeling relief if their parents were arguing/ they were feeling the constant underlying tension).

‘Fucking up another marriage is ok.’
I don’t think anyone thinks fucking up another marriage is ok. Any more than anyone thought it was the first time round. But if the flip is subjecting yourself (and others in the home) to your misery, then surely the better thing for everyone is to be a grown adult and sort a healthy/ boundaried situation for everyone?

From what I can tell, you’re basically aghast that people feel this way. Cannot comprehend that people may feel anything other than ‘the children must come first.’ And any feelings other than that are ones that we should be ashamed of. Basically, you’re telling people how they should feel.

Nb. In most situations, people would say that is emotional abuse. Just saying.

BadMotherLover · 15/08/2021 13:12

You are so busy deleting my posts, you forget that you are re-quoting them.

sassbott · 15/08/2021 13:14

@BadMotherLover why is your post deleted? Did you ask for it to be deleted or did someone report it?

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 15/08/2021 13:25

[quote sassbott]@BadMotherLover why is your post deleted? Did you ask for it to be deleted or did someone report it?[/quote]
I reported it. I found it offensive. This woman clearly has a perfect marriage and has never had any cause to leave. Otherwise why have so little empathy for others situations?

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Youseethethingis · 15/08/2021 13:34

Bye bye 👋

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SpaceshiptoMars · 15/08/2021 14:00

@Youseethethingis

noun
a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.

You've got something there. That is what these posters want from us. Someone, fixed term contract, payment in kisses only, to fight their battles for them. And, hopefully, die for the cause, without the need for care bills!

And I'm beginning to understand why a poster earlier was so insistent on only housing a partner's children once past the age of 18.....

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 15/08/2021 14:20

I thought the question was

AIBU to know that if my stepchildren ever came to live with my spouse, I would leave immediately but not share this information with my spouse before we committed

Not

AIBU to think I could leave my marriage if I found myself deeply unhappy

Youseethethingis · 15/08/2021 14:35

Whilst I do like my DSC, I just don't think I'd enjoy a life where they lived with us all of the tjme and so I believe that whilst I'd give it my best shot, it could inevitably lead to the end of me and DH
That was the question.
HTH.

JustGreatThatIs · 15/08/2021 15:38

AIBU to know that if my stepchildren ever came to live with my spouse, I would leave immediately but not share this information with my spouse before we committed

Never said anything of the sort in fact I specifically said, multiple times, that I'd give it my best first and that this would likely be a long term situation and I even said I may end up surprising myself.

I am confused by PP though insisting that you can't ever leave a relationship for your own personal happiness. What reason do most people leave relationships? Do you insist anyone with children never leave a relationship for their own personal happiness or is it just step parents who are damaging and selfish for doing so? Let's not forget, I wouldn't even have step children if their parents hadn't put their 'own personal happiness' before staying in their relationship for their children's sake.

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saharadry · 23/08/2021 05:42

Yes I would have left 100%.

Happy to do the part time role but not full time.

Mamaoflittleangels · 14/10/2021 13:35

My step son has come to live with my partner, my 2 children and I. I can now safely say that it has put a lot of strain on our relationship and that I am considering leaving.

I understand that my partner moved in with me and my children and that I knew he had another child. However at the time I never thought his mother would be unable to care for him and that he would move in. The issue is compounded by the fact that my step son is on the spectrum and I have have zero experience with this.

It is safe to say (and perhaps horrible to say) that this is not what I signed up for and that I feel like my home is no longer my own. I do not feel comfortable in my situation and this is not what I envisioned my life to be.

SpaceshiptoMars · 14/10/2021 17:52

The issue is compounded by the fact that my step son is on the spectrum and I have have zero experience with this.

Is the problem that the stepson is now a large, unpredictable teenager prone to violent outbursts? Is this actually a situation for the professionals?

Mamaoflittleangels · 14/10/2021 22:43

@SpaceshiptoMars

The issue is compounded by the fact that my step son is on the spectrum and I have have zero experience with this.

Is the problem that the stepson is now a large, unpredictable teenager prone to violent outbursts? Is this actually a situation for the professionals?

Hi behaviour is violent towards my children and also no amount of research has prepared me or helped me deal with the tantrums, food avoidances, lack of emotional understanding and demands for attention. I was completely unprepared for what I am now facing every day. Even a simple request for help clearing his own toys turns into a saga.
SpaceshiptoMars · 15/10/2021 05:44

@Mamaoflittleangels this thread and the videos are worth a look for the food avoidances and connected tantrums:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4372650-to-hate-having-to-decide-what-the-bin-eats-every-day

If he's endangering young children, you need help or you will have no choice but to leave. Super Nanny? Social worker? How old is he?
Some churches/charities run respite care sessions if you're not averse.

RedMarauder · 15/10/2021 09:45

@Mamaoflittleangels violence towards your children is a good reason to leave (or kick your partner out if the house is yours) as your children need to be kept safe.

FJKP · 15/10/2021 10:39

Haven’t managed to read the full thread but have got the gist of some of the key issues.

What stands out to me is the altogether greater, more detailed and intense need for critical assessment before developing a serious relationship with a person who is a parent.

Being brutally honest with oneself at that initial pre investment stage: what am I signing up for / am I genuinely up for it - of course we cannot fully and wholly know what we are signing up for, but I believe there is a moral duty of care to consider this insofar as possible.

Of course we don’t tend during the initial heady honey moon period do a critical personal assessment of how we would respond if our partner became disabled / had a degenerative disease / became unemployable etc. They seem so removed from reality as possibilities. But in my view considering the hypothetical reality of SDC potentially falling into the FT care of the partner-parent is quite different to pondering other possible future scenarios, simply because they are already there, they exist, and getting into a serious (marriage or cohabiting) relationship with their parent would ideally include some really honest and critical assessment / risk assessment / planning for eventualities. Because it’s the lives of dependents at stake, and separating the “person” from the “parent” when they are one and the same is possibly a compartmentalising approach that some people manage very well (but somehow doesn’t sit right for me personally on a gut level.)

I say this as someone whose DC has a SM, who has made it very clear she didn’t sign up to / doesn’t want them there (much), and they themselves have observed she wants their dad and not them - in the most childlike terms. So separating the person from the parent conceptually (you want the partner parts but not the parent parts) and absence of early days full and honest critical assessment, seems to be where some of the problems arise. Probably tidier to just not get involved with a parent if you can’t stomach the idea of their DC living there FT. Although I appreciate life is as black and white is this, and should you deny a potentially great relationship for this reason, not sure. Possibly.

I’m sure many people manage well, with very neat and tidy scenarios with part time SDC and I do not judge that, nor their own acceptance of their personal limits around this. But honesty to ourselves re personal limits at early days is possibly needed.

Maybe getting involved with a parent when we’ve been very honest with ourselves re personal limits may then be executed as a committed but non cohabiting relationship. Another model. Not necessarily better or right. But that honesty colours things to the point one wouldn’t place oneself in the epicentre of a SD’s domestic life and home so risks are managed differently. It’s when everyone is sharing homes that risks change. Keep home separate, if possible, has been my personal approach. I’ve seen it get messy when home is shared and the “I didn’t sign up for this” retrospective realisation occurs.

SpaceshiptoMars · 15/10/2021 10:55

Keep home separate, if possible, has been my personal approach. I’ve seen it get messy when home is shared and the “I didn’t sign up for this” retrospective realisation occurs.

I can see where you're coming from, but it's not unusual to have adult children living with you well into their 20s and sometimes 30s these days. Particularly if they have some special needs. How do you see your approach working longterm in this scenario?

FJKP · 15/10/2021 11:05

Yes, wholly acknowledge this. I anticipate my 3DC may need housing well into 20’s and beyond. I’d probably then be so accustomed to keeping home separate to romantic relationship that I’d continue in the same vein, or make critical assessment that contributing adults who can voice their needs and wishes living under the same roof is quite different in terms of power balance to dependent, young DC. Very case-by-case I’d say. And of course if you’ve taken the financial hit of being a sole adult/single income home for many years, you’ve internally decided to take a lifestyle hit to manage other/emotional risk, so probably have a different way of qualifying things.
2 incomes of course makes life more comfortable, but for me personally that comfort isn’t worth the other risks.
Older adult DC sharing a roof with their mothers or fathers partner is not creating a step parent dynamic, as generally most parenting would no longer be of a primary nature (one hopes!) and power imbalance as I said is thus very different.

SpaceshiptoMars · 15/10/2021 11:41

Older adult DC sharing a roof with their mothers or fathers partner is not creating a step parent dynamic, as generally most parenting would no longer be of a primary nature (one hopes!) and power imbalance as I said is thus very different.

OK, I burst out laughing at this. DH and I got together with his younger adult children still home. Most definitely the step-parent dynamic, and, with special needs involved, a substantial amount of parenting still involved. Not to mention the older siblings weighing in as if they were absent parents!

FJKP · 15/10/2021 12:00

@SpaceshiptoMars point taken! I suppose it’s more accurate to frame it through the lens of dependency level rather than adult vs child DC. Particularly when SN in the mix.

I have 3 under age 10 so young adults feels like a foreign country.

Where do you sit in terms of the thread? Do you live FT with SDC?

SpaceshiptoMars · 15/10/2021 12:16

Where do you sit in terms of the thread? Do you live FT with SDC?

I did for quite a few years (DH widowed). They are finally launched, and living nearby with a bit of support. Good relationship with the younger ones, currently all is silence with the older ones.

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