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Bananasinpyjamas21 · 15/06/2021 12:39

If anyone wants it, and just wants to vent or get advice, feel free to post how you are getting on as a step mum. Summer holidays are coming up and this can be a tricky time for step mums.

I used to post on these boards a lot for advice, as I had a really difficult time as a step mum. I’ve got a much better perspective now. I know it’s hard for step kids too, and much of the problems lie with our husbands.

I had three DSDs who are now all in their 20s. We had one child together, and I have an older son. My marriage collapsed because of the stress, mainly due to one older DSDs resentment, his Exes resentment and DH not handling it well at all and blaming me for all. I made many mistakes, the biggest of which was moving into the ‘family home’. Never doing that again. Confused I just remember how hard it was, so if anyone else is going through it… feel free to share. Flowers

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FishyFriday · 18/06/2021 17:22

I don't think it is. His ex is clearly not interested in facilitating fathers' day so it's fair to decide that neither parent will bother with the other day.

It's not a punishment for his ex or his DD. It's just an acknowledgement that she would do it if she were interested. My ex and I don't sort these days of birthdays etc for each other. It's not about getting at each other. It's just not relevant to us.

Rather than him focusing on Mother's Day for his ex, maybe he'd be better off focusing on Father's Day with his daughter. There's no rule that he can't do it as a day of celebrating his relationship with her in a way that suits both of them. His wife/partner can help if that suits them both, or not.

Shifting the priorities like that means he will never feel disappointed about it or resentful of his efforts the other way. Plenty of mothers sort their own Mother's Day.

newtolineofduty · 18/06/2021 21:59

Hi everyone! Really interesting hearing others stories. Being a step mum is tough. DPs ex is wonderful, DSC lovely, but I STILL in all honesty five years later prefer it when they're not here, and I'm looking forward to them being around less as they grow up which I know sounds awful! Ever since we had our own daughter I've particularly felt quite sad that my 'family life' doesn't look how I would have chosen it. I had decided I wouldn't be with another man with children but I fell in love with him before even deciding to date him! I just couldn't not be with him, but every day I wish life was simpler. DP used to be that dad that would drop EVERYTHING when they're here/roll out the red carpet (50% of the week!) but he's got much better now although still struggles with guilt which has caused a lot of problems in our relationship. He is about to start therapy after much encouragement from me ie 'you need to try and work through this or we're REALLY going to struggle'. It's so disappointing that five years later he still feels so much guilt-that contributes to my sadness too when we have so much to be grateful for including our amazing DD! I try to focus on the positives such as the joy my DSC bring to DDs life ❤️

harryclr · 18/06/2021 22:12

@newtolineofduty

Hi everyone! Really interesting hearing others stories. Being a step mum is tough. DPs ex is wonderful, DSC lovely, but I STILL in all honesty five years later prefer it when they're not here, and I'm looking forward to them being around less as they grow up which I know sounds awful! Ever since we had our own daughter I've particularly felt quite sad that my 'family life' doesn't look how I would have chosen it. I had decided I wouldn't be with another man with children but I fell in love with him before even deciding to date him! I just couldn't not be with him, but every day I wish life was simpler. DP used to be that dad that would drop EVERYTHING when they're here/roll out the red carpet (50% of the week!) but he's got much better now although still struggles with guilt which has caused a lot of problems in our relationship. He is about to start therapy after much encouragement from me ie 'you need to try and work through this or we're REALLY going to struggle'. It's so disappointing that five years later he still feels so much guilt-that contributes to my sadness too when we have so much to be grateful for including our amazing DD! I try to focus on the positives such as the joy my DSC bring to DDs life ❤️
Love your honesty here, I totally agree with you. Things totally changed once we had our own children, I long for it to be just us even though SD is fine and very well behaved and her mum doesn't cause any conflict (well not much compared to other stories I hear on here)

Unfortunately I dont think guilt will ever fo from a parent that isnt with the mother or father of the child.

My dad left when I was 10 and i think he still feels guilt, im 35!

Sending love

newtolineofduty · 18/06/2021 22:28

Thank you for sharing @harryclr x yes I feel the same-I feel so lucky to have our amazing DD and it feels so perfect when it's just the three of us that it makes it harder when it's the five of us. I agree about the guilt and I don't ever expect him to stop feeling guilty, I just wish it didn't prevent him from enjoying the time when it's just the three of us xxx I know he enjoys the time the three of us but as soon as he realises that he feels guilty!

Did you have a step mum? X

Vie8126 · 19/06/2021 07:28

Can i join? I have a DP problem which is causing me so many issues. He has a high conflict ex and we don't even do handovers it falls down to his mum and stepdad. The ex is so high conflict and caused so many dramas for his mum and stepdad they don't want to be involved so won't even talk to us anymore. We have DSD every other weekend she's 5 nearly 6. I have two DC 16 and 12 (have an older one but he doesn't live with us) we are expected our own DC in around a month so I'm heavily pregnant at present so aware hormones could be majorly at play.

Reading the above I could have already made a major mistake as we recently moved back to what was the marital home so I already feel a little like a fish out of water and like I'm walking someone else's steps. DP and I discussed the rules we wanted for the kids (we don't operate a restaurant you eat what you're given or have a basic alternative, no screens at the dining table, no food upstairs in bedrooms, no eating on the sofas for the younger ones etc) he had been on it for implementing these for my daughter but everytime DSD comes she won't follow them kicks off so he whispers in corners or in rooms with her and then goes against the rules. She has got majorly clingy with him and will give me smiles behind his back and say my daddy will do me whatever I want. I've tried to step back but we keep rowing about it culminating in him saying last night I won't ever have the final say and it's not down to solely me (when she refused to eat dinner at the table without the ipad and had a massive screaming tantrum and went and sat in her bedroom, he then offered about a 100 different menu choices which she refused, then when we went to bed she had another tantrum because she was hungry and he snuck crisps, fruit, yogurts and cereal bars into the bedroom) I know parenting her is not my responsibility but when my children HAVE to follow the rules it's hard for such blatent rule breaks my daughter who is 12 says well it isn't fair why does she get to do xyz and if I did it would get into trouble (she would) he is a typical Disney dad. I don't want the joint DC we have coming to not have rules in place and be spoilt that's not happening. The Disney dad attitude is going to ruin us right now I dread every weekend she comes and never used to. Have to say we did live together previously but in a property I rented so was in solely my name we had an element of this and we had a big argument and it stopped but being here in 'his' house seems to have bought it all back. He tries to defer his Disney dad attitude by saying I'm controlling Confused

@sassbott I completely agree with these comments 'The BS pedalled out of you knew he had children so you knew what you were getting into? Rubbish. My exh has children, with me. I have children with him. Neither one of us are dicks and both of us are flexible on contact. Dates get shifted to accommodate special events/ work dinners/ family occasions. Because each of us respects the fact that the other party requires a personal life, and doesn’t restrict access to the children, a healthy dynamic is allowed in future relationships.' my exh and I do exactly this.

StarryNight468 · 19/06/2021 08:09

@Vie8126 I get elements of this with dh but not like how you describe. I actually get involved in discipline - I know that's a step parent no non but when dss answers back to me ect I tell him off. Dh has never had a problem with that. I don't get involved in any behaviour that isn't directed at me but will intervene between him and my dc if he starts annoying them.

Can you try telling her off when she's rude to you - I don't mean shouting but a firm - you do not talk to me like that its very rude and if she answers back remove tech. This might make you feel better and less resentful.

I'm not sure about the other rules, I'd probably play devils advocate and let my dc help themselves to dh favourite snacks and have ipads at the table for a short while until dh got annoyed and then point out the hypocrisy Grin

Tara336 · 19/06/2021 08:15

My STBH has two children both adult one he doesn’t see at all or speak to and the other sporadically usually when she wants money. Initially there was a good relationship but it deteriorated due to some shocking behaviour from DDS which has escalated when they realised I wasn’t just another girlfriend and we were serious. I want nothing to do with either of them, their dad is free to do what he wants I don’t comment or get involved at all. He suspects his ex wife is behind a lot of the nasty poisonous behaviour I couldn’t say if that’s correct or not I just want to stay away from their drama.

Vie8126 · 19/06/2021 08:20

@StarryNight468 yes I'm thinking the same with the rules and said as much last night just that if there are no rules then let me know but it isn't that one child is up here and has zero rules and the other kids down here they are all the same and on the same level whether a resident child or a visiting child just age appropriate where necessary. We put the cot up last time she was here to involve her and within 2 hrs of it being up she had painted the side of it and mattress with nail varnish she had got hold of he wouldn't say anything to her just well its not a big deal is it you got it off and threw it away.... My daughter would have been in so much trouble by him! He doesn't realise the resentment that is building in the house and between us all.

He gets involved with mine and discipline so yes I should start to step up with the rudeness and say something to her before new baby comes as I won't tolerate a little one learning that kind of behaviour/rudeness.

sassbott · 19/06/2021 08:45

@Vie8126 you have a lot going on here.

A SC with a high conflict ex. A new baby due to arrive (which will have ensured dad guilt kicked in with your partner). A move into his ex marital home (so his territory). And a SC whose behaviour may actually get more attention seeking when the baby arrives (it’s very common).

My advice? Coping strategies. Figure them out and implement them. Figure out what you can manage and what you can detach from.

At 12 your youngest is old enough to understand that SD is not your Child. That she is young and a NR (EOW?) child. The same rules simply will not apply to her. Nothing you say or do will change that, you will only cause aggravation for yourself and cause stress at a time that should be lovely for you (the new baby). Step back, let him parent his child. Bluntly if he doesn’t manage his child and adequately discipline her, he’s on track to raise a completely uncontrollable teen/ young adult. That is not your responsibility.

If it continues to cause conflict / problems for your children? Send them to their dads on the weekends she comes. Then remove yourself entirely. You baby is a baby and will be oblivious to this for quite some time, so don’t future trip, start having loads of arguments over what May / may not happen. Detach yourself from her behaviour and let him parent her. You continue to parent your own 12 YO (you may need to think about whether your partner can discipline her however). If my partner behaved like this i would tell him to take a flying jump if he thought he could then apply any rules to my children.

Bluntly? Enjoy the baby, don’t get wrapped up in this drama (especially as the attention seeking behaviour is likely to worsen, as is his pandering). And detach from it all.

SpongebobNoPants · 19/06/2021 08:51

@Vie8126
We put the cot up last time she was here to involve her and within 2 hrs of it being up she had painted the side of it and mattress with nail varnish
How old is she??

Vie8126 · 19/06/2021 09:06

@sassbott thank you for your reply. Makes perfect sense tbh I need to step back but my hormones are making it tricky. I think as you say if I can work out what I can let fly and what I can't then make effort to remove myself.

I'll speak with my daughter today she's quite a young 12 and has hormones raging herself along with problems with a stepsibling at her dad's which he is dealing with. Agree that if we cannot agree on the household rules for all the children that he should not be getting involved with mine and discipline so will be addressing that. He let's her go in my daughters room and use her stuff like spray her perfume and take her brushes/hairbands/bath bombs and when she says hang on that's mine he says oh it doesn't matter ill just replace it so will also tell her to put her stuff away even in her bedroom so it's out of reach. I've had to start doing this too as she uses my items in the bathroom as dad says yeah course you can.

@SpongebobNoPants she's 5 nearly 6.

harryclr · 19/06/2021 09:13

@newtolineofduty

Thank you for sharing *@harryclr* x yes I feel the same-I feel so lucky to have our amazing DD and it feels so perfect when it's just the three of us that it makes it harder when it's the five of us. I agree about the guilt and I don't ever expect him to stop feeling guilty, I just wish it didn't prevent him from enjoying the time when it's just the three of us xxx I know he enjoys the time the three of us but as soon as he realises that he feels guilty!

Did you have a step mum? X

Yep! I get that, they're having a nice time, then realise and feel guilty! Same when it comes to photos, if we're out just us and someone takes a photo of just us and our child I know he feels guilty. He'll then never post it on his socials or anything, he'll over ever post pics of SD. I know its silly but really upsets me
SpongebobNoPants · 19/06/2021 09:28

@Vie8126 my son is 6, no way would he deface furniture like that. At 5/6 years old they definitely know better.
I would have gone ballistic to be honest.

StarryNight468 · 19/06/2021 09:37

@Vie8126 get a lock for your dds bedroom door. I wouldn't even talk to your dp about it, just do it. If he doesn't like it tough shit. I'd probably get one for the baby's room too.

I started reading the book how to not give a fuck last night. It's really interesting and I'm going to try my best to implement it.

I don't have as many issues with dh parenting as the majority of others on here. If dss behaved like how step dc behave on this thread he would be down on him like a ton of bricks.

There is a book called stepmonster that I found helpful, it validates your pain at the situation so you don't feel like you're going mad or you're a horrible person. It's well worth a read.

For me I'm just going to try to meet my own needs, rediscover my interests and (pass the sick bucket) put happiness back in my marriage again rather then bringing resentment and issues all the time.

Vie8126 · 19/06/2021 09:59

@SpongebobNoPants mine wouldn't have done it at that age either. I took her downstairs and said to her that was very naughty you mustnt do things like that and should ask before touching nail varnish shouldn't you told DP who went oh darling come here when I challenged him on the lack of discipline he said well you told her it had been up a good few hours so not just 2 like that matters! We haven't even finished paying for it yet!!

@StarryNight468 I'm concerned as baby and DSD will be sharing a room not immediately but in due course when he moves into his cot they will be. Unless I sleep in there them weekends?

I need this book and stepmonster as I'm being made to feel that I am unreasonable, controlling and a bully I've even had recently 'your jealous of her' I'm not at all I come from divorced parents, had many a stepmother myself etc

Yes that sounds like such a good idea just try to discover yourself again, lockdown hasn't helped has it. Frustrating as we are not bringing the issues it seems to be mainly on our DPs side. My ex H is no angel and we have our moments but we muddle through and don't impose any toxicity on the kids or each other as best we can but then we've been apart 13 years now so maybe that's key I'm not sure.

I just want all the kids to be treated fairly and by the same rules. I never knew beforehand how hard this would be tbh. If I knew then what I know now....

newtolineofduty · 19/06/2021 10:37

@harryclr I totally understand your feelings of upset. His behaviour sends the message you're doing something wrong, or that your life isn't ok somehow!

@Vie8126 that all sounds so tough. When we first had our DD my DSD experienced MAJOR regression and abs was horrific to be around for months. At thar point I was fully prepared to leave and do it alone. I wanted to protect my daughter from it. Does your DH understand the impact it has on you? Xx

Vie8126 · 19/06/2021 11:15

@harryclr I completely understand your feelings. I remember saying to my dd as there were photos up of her dad his new partner and her child that they will go and do nice things and document them with photos same as we did it doesn't bother her now. I don't understand the guilt my DP would be the same I just know it.

@newtolineofduty I was a single mum to my three DC from the ages of 8, 4 and 6 weeks so he knows that being by myself does not phase me in the slightest so would walk if I had to for my sanity and know I would be okay. He doesn't see it and sees it that my DD and me have an issue with DSD being here and jealousy because we end up withdrawing from it the arguments are becoming too much that the thought of dsd coming causes so much anxiety. How did you resolve it with your dsd/dp?

newtolineofduty · 19/06/2021 12:12

@Vie8126 that's good that you'd be willing to do it alone so you know you always have that ability as a worst case scenario. I guess I was lucky in that my partner didn't like my DSD behaviour just as much as me so he was motivated to put In boundaries to change her behaviour. It's very difficult that your partner has taken the approach of making it your issue rather than him thinking what he can do differently x I'd be giving him an ultimatum I think!!!!

FishyFriday · 19/06/2021 12:33

That does sound really hard @Vie8126.

To an extent I agree with @sassbott - particularly about how to handle it with your children who will understand that your SD is treated differently. In fact, they will probably reflect to themselves on how the Disney dad inconsistency is not good for her in the least. I'm know that my DSes (12 and 21) look at the SC and think it im ridiculous that their father doesn't sort out several behaviours.

Where I would differ is in relation to the baby issue. I think that it is probably important that you talk to your husband now about what's happening and sort something out before the baby is born/before it starts to feel urgent and high stakes. It would probably be good to find a counsellor to help with this.

I say this because my own situation looks a lot like many parts of yours. And, contrary to the passing remarks in so much of the stepparenting literature that having a baby together can often improve things, my own experience has been entirely the opposite. The need for the baby to have consistency in his life and to not copy his half sibling's dreadful behaviour is very important. Things I could explain away to my DSes as just different not unfair, just cannot when there is a younger child who is seeing his father let some children behave dreadfully (and undermining the rules to which he will be subject).

Particular flash points we've had are around:

  1. The absolutely dreadful values the SC are being raised with which come through in their behaviour. Their mother is awful. And she is bringing up rude, disrespectful, demanding children who are encouraged to see any situation in terms of what they can get. The way in which the SC talk to everyone, including each other, is unacceptable. And it's not OK for the baby to be subject to the horrible ways they interact with each other. SD is horrible to her brother, and I am not OK with my son being subject to being told how much better she is than him and everyone else at all times. She routinely tells SS how she's better in every way than him and it is not nice at all. SS is aggressive, attention-seeking and really unpleasant. Already he does things like push the baby (who is cruising), shout 'get off' in a nasty tone while doing so and snatch things from him while shouting at him or purposefully scaring him with aggressive behaviour.

My husband's inconsistent, guilt-driven Disney parenting is making all this worse and it's not OK. Their behaviour had to improve, or their interactions with the baby must be very limited and heavily supervised. Plus I need to be able to trust him that he is capable of stopping his son throwing wooden bricks at a scared and crying 8 month old baby (at the time), pushing him over or driving ride on cars aggressively at him while shouting and terrifying him, rather than deciding to ignore it and write it off as 'excitement'.

Even when the baby was tiny, the ways in which my husband allowed the SC to behave had very negative effects on him. He was continually woken up (and it was a real struggle to get him to sleep) by screaming, crashing around and throwing things, and fighting even from the day he came home from the hospital. It was horrific and very much eroded any goodwill I had towards the pretty much feral behaviour my husband was allowing to distress both me and the baby. It was really traumatic.

  1. Eating. I've written on this forum about the awful eating situation with my SC. This has become an even bigger issue since the baby was born, and particularly once we started weaning him. It's not OK for him to be learning to eat alongside a whole range of dreadful behaviours. It's not my fault that their father has spent years undermining every attempt to improve the situation to the point that his other children just cannot eat with us. Their behaviour has negatively affected my middle son's eating behaviour in several ways even though he's older than them. The baby needs to be able to learn to eat in a reasonable context rather than the complex power struggle my husband has allowed to develop around his other children.

My husband knows that his children's behaviour is awful. And he is absolutely aware that he does not want the baby to copy or adopt these behaviours. But his divorced dad kicks in and he minimises and fails to do anything other than make the situation worse. It's way beyond 'a bit of fussy eating' or table manners or any of the other things that you can manage with a baby at the table. It's an enormous mess and we are seeing a counsellor. I think his children should have some therapy but he won't accept that (not least because his toxic mother keeps banging on about mental illness running in his father's family and the dodgy genes). But their food related behaviours are so problematic and weird that they really should be seen through CAMHS.

  1. The dreadful stepfamily dynamic where he does his guilty divorced dad thing, projects everything on to me and he, the SC and his awful mother all use me as a convenient scapegoat. This is awful. It's ruining my life. But it is absolutely not OK for my baby to grow up in a context where no matter what I do, his mother is cast as the villain and the SC are prioritised, favoured and allowed to behave in ways he will not be. That's not just because I will ensure he has rules and boundaries and routines but because his father will too.

You see, the divorced dad guilt doesn't apply to the baby. He can be treated normally because he's just always here. Indeed, he can be deprioritised in various ways because he doesn't need to be compensated for his parents getting divorced.

It is just toxic and the baby is very clearly getting the message that he matters less to his father than the SC (and to his grandmother and aunts and uncles). He's only 10 months old but he will be picking things up. And increasingly so as he gets older.

Based on all that, I'd say that dealing with things NOW is most definitely not borrowing trouble. It's actually trying to avoid it.

It's hard to see how my marriage can survive this. Or how I can have a positive relationship with SC whose father creates such problematic dynamics around. I can't even disengage (as I would if it were just my older children) because I do have a responsibility to protect my baby from all this bullshit. It's not some irrational, maternal protectiveness; it's a hideous situation and my husband needs to address his divorced dad guilt (plus a legacy where a lot of this crap is driven by him trying to save his 9 year old self from his parents' divorce and a childhood characterised by parental alienation, and angry martyr of a mother, a detached father and a convenient scapegoat in his stepmum).

It's worth getting some relationship counselling - specialist counselling about blended family issues - and sorting things out now so that you can feel comfortable and confident with your baby in your blended family. There won't be one right way to organise things, but you can find something that works for you.

Dollyparton3 · 19/06/2021 13:44

@Tara336 I feel your pain. We have one SS who is a lovely teen and is here all the time and one adult SD who is a total brat and no longer speaks to us.

Her mum has used parental alienation tactics her whole life, SD grew up to be quite frankly a bully to everyone round her. She's loud, entitled, demanding, rude and manipulative.

It's quite a relief now to not have her around and when she publicly called me out for not being as much of a doormat as her mother she pushed her dad away as well. That was after she'd asked him to choose between her and me.

It's such a shame because we'd had years of relatively harmonious times (when she wasn't insisting that the red carpet was rolled out for every visit) and I'd bitten my lip several times before that to keep the peace.

The irony is that her comparing me to her mother wasn't a competition to me. I was her Dad's wife. That's it. She assumed that I'd be hurt that she declared that her mum is an angel and I'm the evil stepmum. Far from it.

DH is a bit lost now which is sad. He's always been very much fair and open and non tolerant of her entitled ways. But having a mother who's bitter and vindictive and vile towards DH has created this monster. He couldn't have tried any harder to work with the shite circumstances that were forced upon him.

sassbott · 19/06/2021 14:23

Omg @FishyFriday that sounds horrendous!
What are you going to do?

Tara336 · 19/06/2021 17:25

@Dollyparton3 it’s an awful position to be in, I’ve questioned whether I want to go ahead with the wedding sometimes because I am so tired of the drama. But I love him and we are happy when it’s just us. I don’t know what the ex wife’s problem is, I met him 8 years after they divorced! Only met her maybe 3 or 4 times in the whole time we’ve been together, her kids are adults so no treading on toes as far as parenting goes, it’s bizzare really.

I’ve put up with a lot of nastiness, lies and drama so decided to withdraw from the situation and he has sporadic contact with his DD. There’s no coming back from some of the vile things that have been said to me and about me I can’t forgive things that an adult has chosen to do and say (I think children it’s a bit different)

newtolineofduty · 19/06/2021 19:02

@FishyFriday thank you for sharing your experiences-that sounds really tough. I think it's very easy for the Disney dad to be in total denial!!!! Do you think you'll be able to stick it out? X

Dollyparton3 · 19/06/2021 19:11

Exactly the same here. I came along years after the marriage ended, but the ex has really done a number on the kids. The irony is that all my DH has done is to try and reel them in when they're out of control but every time he's been painted as the bad guy. It's the opposite of Disney dadding.

Detaching is healthy, if you're happy with him then just compartmentalise the complexity of his kids. I hope that one day they'll grow out of it. It's such a shame because when I met my stepdaughter she was a bright, beautiful lovely vibrant girl and she's dug herself a very divisive hole now. We'll struggle to be together at major family events and I can only put it down to her mother teaching her that people have a material value rather than what they can bring to the party in terms of nurture, love etc.

FishyFriday · 19/06/2021 19:58

@sassbott and @newtolineofduty I don't know really...

We are going to counselling. So far it's helped him to recognise some of the destructive patterns in his life. Frankly, he's replaying his childhood in really obvious ways. His ex and his mother have enormous amounts in common (none of them good). He's cast me in the role of his stepmum (who is genuinely very nice - I don't think it's a coincidence that his girlfriends from before the awful ex and woman he chose to have children with all had huge issues with his mother but got in well with his stepmum) so I get to take the blame for his childhood and have all the divorced dad guilt etc projected on to me.

He's recognised the pattern so far. Whether he can accept the enormously destructive effects of it or how dreadful it is for me (and my children) is another question.

He's not a dreadful guy (if you take all this stepparenting crap out of the equation). But he seriously needs to sort out his emotional baggage and accept that he does not need to compensate his children for the relationship with their mother failing. He can't. And his attempts to do so by avoiding parenting are not good for them, never mind anyone else.

I'm far from perfect, and living with this situation has made me angry and shouty (I just have no emotional reserves left, and I'm so exhausted by it). But he needs to understand that he could have a great relationship with my DSes (his stepsons) if he chose to because I do not parent out if divorced mum guilt. The thing that stops him from doing so is himself and his feelings that he needs to take his children's absence out on the resident children in the house.

Sulking because my DS is eating dinner with us and his children are at their mum's doesn't change the fact if his nonresident parenthood. All it does is upset us and make our lives harder. Spoiling his kids when they're here and not tackling the behaviours that mean no one wants to eat with them or spend time with them doesn't help anyone either. The only way it can improve is if he sorts himself out and parents his children properly, and without scapegoating or ostracising them rest of us.

Otherwise, he'll be twice divorced (two short marriages) and still an NRP, this time to all of his children. Or he can get over his childhood, accept the consequences of his choices and make the best of what he has (including stepping up to parent his elder children so that he can look forward to spending time with them, rather than dreading it because he knows they'll be awful and projecting it all on to me).

We'll see. I'd like it to work for many reasons. One important one is that I really would not want our baby subject to his NR parenting and his father's failure to protect him from his half siblings' behaviour and attitudes. That is a really awful outcome.