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DP’s Ex demanding I do childcare

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SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 11:15

DP and his ex have an EOW arrangement with SCs, and SCs come for dinner a couple of times a week too but don’t stay over.

DP’s job has always involved some night shift work and he has to do it generally in 3 month chunks twice a year, so he does nights for 6 months of the year. It has been like this for the last 20 years or so and far predates his prior relationship with his ex and obviously was the case before he met me.

When he does night shifts they are full nights from Monday - Friday, which means he sleeps until Saturday afternoon and his weekend is essentially Saturday afternoon until Monday afternoon.

DP did the first 3 month night shift stint from October and it was the first time he had worked nights since we had moved in together. I naively agreed to look after his kids on the Friday nights he was working when it was his contact weekend with SCs.

The reason being is he was told he was going on nights with very short notice and I said it wasn’t really fair to spring it on his ex when she might have made plans for those Fridays in the run up to Christmas and I know how annoying it is when my own ex chops and changes contact arrangements because of changing shift patterns.

So I covered every Friday - Saturday afternoon on our weekend with SCs to be helpful and make everyone’s lives easier... except of course my own.

DP is going back on nights in March and I’ve told him I’m not willing to do it this time. His ex is incredibly hostile towards me and the facts are that no one benefits from me babysitting the kids except her.

DP doesn’t benefit from it.
My SCs don’t benefit from it as their dad isn’t here
I don’t benefit from it and actually find it a bit much.
My kids don’t benefit from it.

The only person who benefits from it is his ex so I’m unwilling to give up my free time so she can have free time.

I work full time in a very pressured job and have been homeschooling 2 primary aged children through lockdown. DP’s ex doesn’t work and the kids are in secondary school so I definitely have it harder in that sense.

DP spoke to his ex and said about the nightshifts starting again and said he would be able to have SCs from when he wakes up on the Saturday, keep them the remainder of the weekend, take them to school on the Monday and also pick them up from school and have dinner with them before dropping them home on his way to work around 6pm on the Monday evening.
That way he still has them 2 nights, they’re spending time with their dad which is what the contact is actually for and I also get every Friday to spend alone with my own children and relax after a long working week.

Before we lived together this was the arrangement when he worked nights.

His ex has hit the roof saying “Why can’t spongebob have them like before?”. DP said because she’s working all week and I’m not here to spend time with them.

I’ve since had awful messages from her (she’s blocked now) calling me selfish, saying she needs a break etc. I responded only to say that I also need a break, I am not their parent and it’s up to DP and her to sort it out between themselves. I’m not a free on demand babysitter and I’m unwilling to do favours for someone who is rude, abuse and outwardly hostile towards me. She will literally ignore me if I say hello to her.

Well she’s like a dog with a bone. Now the kids are saying “mum says you’re being out of order. It’s not fair on her”.

Am I being unreasonable here? The suggested arrangement whilst DP works nights has stood in place for the last 10 years since they split apart from the most recent stint where I covered it.

The kids will be back at school when the nightshifts start which means ex will have a minimum of 30 hours a week of free time. I’ll be working full time, juggling childcare pick ups etc for my own 2 children.

I don’t think I’m being unreasonable to say I’m not giving up my free time to give her more free time.

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UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 13:23

Yup me too. I have my eldest 100% of the time too.
What I don’t do is moan about needing a break every other day, especially not in front my DD.
She does get a break... they come to us after school twice a week for dinner and she has every other weekend to herself... and from 8.20-4.00 every single school day.
If that’s not getting a break then I don’t know what is grin

Again, my comment was in response to you claiming it’s sad that she wants a break. (It isn’t) I wasn’t saying she isn’t getting one.

Courtney555 · 28/02/2021 13:24

So she wants Fri to Mon on every occasion now, so she gets an extra day every time, via you babysitting two children that aren't yours when their father isn't there. The contact with their father doesn't increase, it's just you babysitting for free on Fridays in addition to two nights when their father is actually home. Is that correct?

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/02/2021 13:24

He needs to ask his kids why, when they think you’re so awful, they’d rather be with you than with him.

Ridiculous situation and of course you’re not in the wrong.

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 13:26

@UhtredRagnarson when I say it’s every other m bloody day, I mean she moans every other day.
Constantly. Every conversation between her and DP revolves around her needing him to do XYZ because she needs a break.
When in reality she’s having a break every single day for long periods. It fucking annoying to be honest. She’s work shy and lazy.
It’s sad because she says she needs a break in front of the kids. A lot.

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TrustTheGeneGenie · 28/02/2021 13:26

@MadameMinimes

I don’t blame you for saying no but ultimately it’s his responsibility to find childcare for the times when he is responsible for the children, not his ex’s. On his days he needs to pay for or arrange childcare. I’m not surprised his ex is pissed off that he thinks that his lack of childcare on the days he is meant to have the children is her problem to solve. That definitely doesn’t make it your problem either though!
Did you miss the bit where the contact has ALWAYS been like that?
MuddleMoo · 28/02/2021 13:26

Well done for saying no and glad your DH is fully onboard.

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/02/2021 13:28

Can you even get a babysitter for a 16 year old? At that age I’d been babysitting babies and young children for 2 years.

And where’s she wanting to go on a Friday night? If you’re in the U.K. there is literally nowhere to go right now, or for most of March.

UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 13:30

[quote SpongebobNoPants]@UhtredRagnarson when I say it’s every other m bloody day, I mean she moans every other day.
Constantly. Every conversation between her and DP revolves around her needing him to do XYZ because she needs a break.
When in reality she’s having a break every single day for long periods. It fucking annoying to be honest. She’s work shy and lazy.
It’s sad because she says she needs a break in front of the kids. A lot.[/quote]
Is she ok?

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 13:30

@AnneLovesGilbert god knows. I don’t think she really goes anywhere to be honest. It’s just “I need a break. Come and take the kids I need some time” ad nauseum

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SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 13:31

@UhtredRagnarson yes she’s fine. No mental health issues. She’s just selfish and thinks the world owes her everything.

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Courtney555 · 28/02/2021 13:32

She means, "I need a break and you can be my free childcare"

I have zero sympathy for the ExW who doesn't work and "needs" a break. She can hire her own babysitter if she wants one. You are under zero obligation to be her free babysitter. CF. Especially when she's been historically so unpleasant.

Explain that the same arrangement for 11yrs will remain and if she needs a break so badly on Fridays when they are not due to be with their father, there are many local babysitters she can utilise.

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/02/2021 13:33

Why are they in touch so much? Surely an email about contact would suffice. She sounds annoying and they don’t seem to like each other so wouldn’t his life be easier if he limited their interactions? Assuming the girls have their own phones can’t they liaise with both parents as needed?

justamummydoingherbest · 28/02/2021 13:35

Yanbu. You don't owe the nasty ex anything . Put your own dc and mental health first.

UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 13:35

[quote SpongebobNoPants]@UhtredRagnarson yes she’s fine. No mental health issues. She’s just selfish and thinks the world owes her everything.[/quote]
Would you even know if she had any mental health issues though? I never told people when I was deep in depression. I can’t imagine I would have told my ex’s partner. I suspect if she was telling one of her friends she needed a break all the time they would be asking her what was going on as that’s not normal. I get it’s hard for you to think of it that was as you have an unpleasant history with her but from an outsider reading this it does sound like she is struggling beyond what is normal.

aSofaNearYou · 28/02/2021 13:37

@AnneLovesGilbert

He needs to ask his kids why, when they think you’re so awful, they’d rather be with you than with him.

Ridiculous situation and of course you’re not in the wrong.

I find it most bizarre that they think OP is unreasonable for not giving their mum more time away from them. What child thinks their own mum wants to be away from them, regardless of how adults feel about wanting a break?
SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 13:38

@UhtredRagnarson to be honest I don’t care about the state of her mental health.
The fact is she is lazy, rude, entitled, abusive and outwardly hostile. Even if she has depression then it doesn’t excuse her acting like an entitled c*nt to me and DP.
She’s always been like this. I honestly just think it’s her personality.

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partyatthepalace · 28/02/2021 13:39

As PP says don’t feed it or respond. She’s out of order and that is it.

With your SC if they bring it up, explain clearly why it doesn’t work, and say that you really love having them there when you can spend time as a family.

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 13:39

@AnneLovesGilbert the contact is almost exclusively done via the kids. She will also use the kids’ phones to contact DP as we pay the bill and hers is frequently cut off for non-payment so it’s hard to filter her out when the calls are coming from one of the children’s numbers

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MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 28/02/2021 13:40

YANBU at all. This is a longstanding arrangement and you being there has no bearing on it. She's taking the piss. And if my kids were at their dad's twice a week for dinner and eow I would actually miss them, not be complaining that I wanted more time away from them.

I think that SAHM's who accept support should feel a sense of obligation to take on certain responsibilities in exchange for abdicating their responsibility to be a self supporting adult. I do not believe that it is ever acceptable to accept more than you are willing to give.
I do take exception to the above though. Presumably any support the father is paying is for his kids. Whether the ex sah or not is irrelevant

Courtney555 · 28/02/2021 13:41

I don't think it sounds abnormal. MN is full of threads about the ExW who looks for any way to disrupt or remain dependent on their EXh to fix their problems. It's frequently when they have remained single and refuse to accept they have no partner in their life, when another woman had moved on with what they believe their life should have been. They make their problems their EXhs as if they are still the woman in their life that needs pandering too. It makes them feel validated. And if pulled up on this behaviour, it's met with professional offence "I'm only thinking about my children." They very much are not.

UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 13:41

to be honest I don’t care about the state of her mental health.

Clearly. But your partner should because his children are living with her so he needs to know what is going on rather than just letting it continue and complaining about it. It sounds like the children might need to live with their father. Of course I realise you will say that isn’t possible due to his work shifts. But he is their parent.

UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 13:42

MN is full of threads about the ExW who looks for any way to disrupt or remain dependent on their EXh to fix their problems.

It’s also full of mother’s who aren’t coping.

heart80s · 28/02/2021 13:42

At the ages they are they don't need childcare? If the mother wanted to go out on a Friday night or Saturday morning surely they can be left at home?

UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 13:43

Just because she’s an ex wife doesn’t mean she is excluded from the group of mothers who aren’t coping.

timetest · 28/02/2021 13:43

YANBU. It is up to your DP to sort childcare on his contact time but you shouldn’t be the automatic default.