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DP’s Ex demanding I do childcare

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SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 11:15

DP and his ex have an EOW arrangement with SCs, and SCs come for dinner a couple of times a week too but don’t stay over.

DP’s job has always involved some night shift work and he has to do it generally in 3 month chunks twice a year, so he does nights for 6 months of the year. It has been like this for the last 20 years or so and far predates his prior relationship with his ex and obviously was the case before he met me.

When he does night shifts they are full nights from Monday - Friday, which means he sleeps until Saturday afternoon and his weekend is essentially Saturday afternoon until Monday afternoon.

DP did the first 3 month night shift stint from October and it was the first time he had worked nights since we had moved in together. I naively agreed to look after his kids on the Friday nights he was working when it was his contact weekend with SCs.

The reason being is he was told he was going on nights with very short notice and I said it wasn’t really fair to spring it on his ex when she might have made plans for those Fridays in the run up to Christmas and I know how annoying it is when my own ex chops and changes contact arrangements because of changing shift patterns.

So I covered every Friday - Saturday afternoon on our weekend with SCs to be helpful and make everyone’s lives easier... except of course my own.

DP is going back on nights in March and I’ve told him I’m not willing to do it this time. His ex is incredibly hostile towards me and the facts are that no one benefits from me babysitting the kids except her.

DP doesn’t benefit from it.
My SCs don’t benefit from it as their dad isn’t here
I don’t benefit from it and actually find it a bit much.
My kids don’t benefit from it.

The only person who benefits from it is his ex so I’m unwilling to give up my free time so she can have free time.

I work full time in a very pressured job and have been homeschooling 2 primary aged children through lockdown. DP’s ex doesn’t work and the kids are in secondary school so I definitely have it harder in that sense.

DP spoke to his ex and said about the nightshifts starting again and said he would be able to have SCs from when he wakes up on the Saturday, keep them the remainder of the weekend, take them to school on the Monday and also pick them up from school and have dinner with them before dropping them home on his way to work around 6pm on the Monday evening.
That way he still has them 2 nights, they’re spending time with their dad which is what the contact is actually for and I also get every Friday to spend alone with my own children and relax after a long working week.

Before we lived together this was the arrangement when he worked nights.

His ex has hit the roof saying “Why can’t spongebob have them like before?”. DP said because she’s working all week and I’m not here to spend time with them.

I’ve since had awful messages from her (she’s blocked now) calling me selfish, saying she needs a break etc. I responded only to say that I also need a break, I am not their parent and it’s up to DP and her to sort it out between themselves. I’m not a free on demand babysitter and I’m unwilling to do favours for someone who is rude, abuse and outwardly hostile towards me. She will literally ignore me if I say hello to her.

Well she’s like a dog with a bone. Now the kids are saying “mum says you’re being out of order. It’s not fair on her”.

Am I being unreasonable here? The suggested arrangement whilst DP works nights has stood in place for the last 10 years since they split apart from the most recent stint where I covered it.

The kids will be back at school when the nightshifts start which means ex will have a minimum of 30 hours a week of free time. I’ll be working full time, juggling childcare pick ups etc for my own 2 children.

I don’t think I’m being unreasonable to say I’m not giving up my free time to give her more free time.

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TheCatWithTheFluffyTail · 28/02/2021 13:46

Yanbu at all. She is BU to be rude to you but not BU to expect your DH to fulfil his end of the deal.

If it’s agreed that your DH has his children on set days and nights, it is up to him to sort that out. Can he look into a nanny one night a week to cover? I appreciate it impacts you as it’s your household disposable income that decreases but that’s the compromise with you (quite rightly) not providing childcare but him being responsible for his children at that time.

TrustTheGeneGenie · 28/02/2021 13:46

@UhtredRagnarson

MN is full of threads about the ExW who looks for any way to disrupt or remain dependent on their EXh to fix their problems.

It’s also full of mother’s who aren’t coping.

Mhm. Some are just arseholes though.
FloconDeNeige · 28/02/2021 13:46

She sounds like a useless piece of work.

Next time she contacts you, ask her why she’s such a piss-poor excuse for a mother, given she’s always wanting to palm her kids off on you and get away from them.

UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 13:48

Mhm. Some are just arseholes though.

Applies to all categories of posters/subjects.

TrustTheGeneGenie · 28/02/2021 13:49

@UhtredRagnarson

Mhm. Some are just arseholes though.

Applies to all categories of posters/subjects.

But you wouldn't go to say a thread about a chesting husband and be all like oh maybe he is just a horrible person because of his mh you need to care about it

Why us this different?

aSofaNearYou · 28/02/2021 13:49

@TheCatWithTheFluffyTail

Yanbu at all. She is BU to be rude to you but not BU to expect your DH to fulfil his end of the deal.

If it’s agreed that your DH has his children on set days and nights, it is up to him to sort that out. Can he look into a nanny one night a week to cover? I appreciate it impacts you as it’s your household disposable income that decreases but that’s the compromise with you (quite rightly) not providing childcare but him being responsible for his children at that time.

This has been answered so many times, it's not their agreement....
TheFiend · 28/02/2021 13:51

You did a thread last week about your sd’s being trashy and the youngest one dressed like she’s a stripper. You said you were embarrassed to be seen with them. You clearly don’t like them.

That aside, you shouldn’t have to provide childcare if you don’t want to. That’s not your responsibility.

UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 13:53

But you wouldn't go to say a thread about a chesting husband and be all like oh maybe he is just a horrible person because of his mh you need to care about it

Why us this different?

I would onto a thread about a husband saying every day he needed a break from his children and ask “is he ok?” And I don’t believe for a single second I would be the only poster to ask this. Apparently because this is an ex wife we are not allowed to comment on the obvious issue and have to just accept the party line that “she’s a lazy bitch”.

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 13:54

@TheFiend yep that was me, I do like them... but again don’t agree with some of the parenting choices their parents make for them.
I do like them, I go over and above for them all the time. I help out as much as I can and treat them with kindness, care and do what I can to make their lives happier and easier.
That does not extend to their mother though

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AnneElliott · 28/02/2021 13:55

UANBU. Your DP and his ex are the parents and it's their job to sort it out. He's offered two slightly different nights which means she still gets the same time off? And they get to see their dad?

I agree you should keep to what you said and not help out. What would they do if yuh and DP split up? They'd go back to the old arrangement!

justamummydoingherbest · 28/02/2021 13:56

A 16 year old doesn't need a babysitter, it's likely a 12 year old doesn't either.....or maybe she can get the 16 year old to mind the 12 year old ?

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 13:56

Honestly @UhtredRagnarson you seem determined to paint her in the light of someone who is hard done by. I can assure you she is not, I can also say it is just her personality. She doesn’t have depression, she is just an extremely unpleasant person and has been for a considerable time.
To give more context... we used to get along fine, until she began dating the ExH of a good friend of mine and her jealousy raged out of control and she demanded I stop being friends with his ExW because it made her uncomfortable. Even though our friendship was 10 years in the making.

They’ve since split and DP and I get a lot of “But there’s two of you, I’m on my own. Why can’t spongebob do XYZ?” or “Why can’t she pay for this thing I want?”

Honestly it’s exhausting.

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TrustTheGeneGenie · 28/02/2021 13:56

@UhtredRagnarson

But you wouldn't go to say a thread about a chesting husband and be all like oh maybe he is just a horrible person because of his mh you need to care about it

Why us this different?

I would onto a thread about a husband saying every day he needed a break from his children and ask “is he ok?” And I don’t believe for a single second I would be the only poster to ask this. Apparently because this is an ex wife we are not allowed to comment on the obvious issue and have to just accept the party line that “she’s a lazy bitch”.

So essentially because she's an ex wife she can't just be a lazy bitch, she must have something mentally wrong with her. I see.
SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 13:58

@justamummydoingherbest my thoughts exactly.
I posted a thread recently where his ex was kicking off about the eldest not want to stay at ours for the whole weekend EOW, which we’re ok with... she’s old enough to choose imho. But his ex was raging saying we should force her to come because she wants time to herself.

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Branleuse · 28/02/2021 14:01

id just message her and say "this sounds like a "you" problem" Good luck with that"

UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 14:03

Honestly @UhtredRagnarson you seem determined to paint her in the light of someone who is hard done by.

I’m not, I’m asking if there is more going on because wanting to never have your children is not normal. You can’t seriously say it is? (In fact you yourself already confirmed it isn’t by saying how sad it was) And if I was hearing this from my Dcs other parent I would be worried about what was going on when my DCs were with that parent. Your DP needs to investigate what sort of home his children are spending most of their time in. If they are hearing this all the time he needs to act.

EnoughnowIthink · 28/02/2021 14:03

It's OK to say no. However, your partner doesn't have the right to chop and change arrangements as he sees fit. Either they are his contact days or they're not. He makes alternative arrangements on his time when he is at work or he asks his ex to swap permanently to an arrangement he can handle and he sucks up any additional maintenance he may have to pay as a result. It is not reasonable to expect his ex to work around his shift pattern, particularly if that is subject to change at short notice (which I think you are saying is the case).

MessAllOver · 28/02/2021 14:04

Not your kids, not your problem.

But 12 and 16 year olds don't really need babysitting anyway (though I'd caveat that by saying I wouldn't leave a 12 year old alone overnight or for a whole day). So you're not really doing "childcare". You're just having the children around.

Flibbitygibbit · 28/02/2021 14:05

I had this. I ended it. Life so much better now.

harknesswitch · 28/02/2021 14:06

Even if the ew wanted some free time, if she did have mental health issues, was struggling to cope it's not the OPs responsibility to help her with this by looking after her dc.

She's already been kind enough to have them straight from school and cook them tea before their df gets home (they would previously go to the ew and their df would collect them after school) and she also helped out when his shifts changed at short notice.

TrustTheGeneGenie · 28/02/2021 14:06

@EnoughnowIthink

It's OK to say no. However, your partner doesn't have the right to chop and change arrangements as he sees fit. Either they are his contact days or they're not. He makes alternative arrangements on his time when he is at work or he asks his ex to swap permanently to an arrangement he can handle and he sucks up any additional maintenance he may have to pay as a result. It is not reasonable to expect his ex to work around his shift pattern, particularly if that is subject to change at short notice (which I think you are saying is the case).
Omfg. They have had this arrangement since they split up. He has not chopped and changed anything.
SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 14:07

@EnoughnowIthink I’ve explained several times that it isn’t a deviation from the existing agreement. The working nights pattern has been the same for nearly 11 years. The only thing that’s changed is I stupidly tried to do a nice thing and help out previously but I’m no longer willing to do so.

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UhtredRagnarson · 28/02/2021 14:09

Even if the ew wanted some free time, if she did have mental health issues, was struggling to cope it's not the OPs responsibility to help her with this by looking after her dc.

You won’t see anywhere that I have said it’s OPs responsibility or that she should have them. I have even stated this up thread.

ILoveYou3000 · 28/02/2021 14:09

At the ages they are they don't need childcare? If the mother wanted to go out on a Friday night or Saturday morning surely they can be left at home?

This.

Why do they need babysitting at 16 and 12? What exactly is it that she needs a break from?

Snowymcsnowsony · 28/02/2021 14:11

Tell ex dh is applying for part time jobs. He can pay half Cms and have the dc more..