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DP’s Ex demanding I do childcare

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SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 11:15

DP and his ex have an EOW arrangement with SCs, and SCs come for dinner a couple of times a week too but don’t stay over.

DP’s job has always involved some night shift work and he has to do it generally in 3 month chunks twice a year, so he does nights for 6 months of the year. It has been like this for the last 20 years or so and far predates his prior relationship with his ex and obviously was the case before he met me.

When he does night shifts they are full nights from Monday - Friday, which means he sleeps until Saturday afternoon and his weekend is essentially Saturday afternoon until Monday afternoon.

DP did the first 3 month night shift stint from October and it was the first time he had worked nights since we had moved in together. I naively agreed to look after his kids on the Friday nights he was working when it was his contact weekend with SCs.

The reason being is he was told he was going on nights with very short notice and I said it wasn’t really fair to spring it on his ex when she might have made plans for those Fridays in the run up to Christmas and I know how annoying it is when my own ex chops and changes contact arrangements because of changing shift patterns.

So I covered every Friday - Saturday afternoon on our weekend with SCs to be helpful and make everyone’s lives easier... except of course my own.

DP is going back on nights in March and I’ve told him I’m not willing to do it this time. His ex is incredibly hostile towards me and the facts are that no one benefits from me babysitting the kids except her.

DP doesn’t benefit from it.
My SCs don’t benefit from it as their dad isn’t here
I don’t benefit from it and actually find it a bit much.
My kids don’t benefit from it.

The only person who benefits from it is his ex so I’m unwilling to give up my free time so she can have free time.

I work full time in a very pressured job and have been homeschooling 2 primary aged children through lockdown. DP’s ex doesn’t work and the kids are in secondary school so I definitely have it harder in that sense.

DP spoke to his ex and said about the nightshifts starting again and said he would be able to have SCs from when he wakes up on the Saturday, keep them the remainder of the weekend, take them to school on the Monday and also pick them up from school and have dinner with them before dropping them home on his way to work around 6pm on the Monday evening.
That way he still has them 2 nights, they’re spending time with their dad which is what the contact is actually for and I also get every Friday to spend alone with my own children and relax after a long working week.

Before we lived together this was the arrangement when he worked nights.

His ex has hit the roof saying “Why can’t spongebob have them like before?”. DP said because she’s working all week and I’m not here to spend time with them.

I’ve since had awful messages from her (she’s blocked now) calling me selfish, saying she needs a break etc. I responded only to say that I also need a break, I am not their parent and it’s up to DP and her to sort it out between themselves. I’m not a free on demand babysitter and I’m unwilling to do favours for someone who is rude, abuse and outwardly hostile towards me. She will literally ignore me if I say hello to her.

Well she’s like a dog with a bone. Now the kids are saying “mum says you’re being out of order. It’s not fair on her”.

Am I being unreasonable here? The suggested arrangement whilst DP works nights has stood in place for the last 10 years since they split apart from the most recent stint where I covered it.

The kids will be back at school when the nightshifts start which means ex will have a minimum of 30 hours a week of free time. I’ll be working full time, juggling childcare pick ups etc for my own 2 children.

I don’t think I’m being unreasonable to say I’m not giving up my free time to give her more free time.

OP posts:
LouJ85 · 28/02/2021 14:50

It doesn’t seem worth being in a relay if you can’t support you partners children.

What?!

Unless you agree to do the donkey work for someone else's kids, you might as well not be in a relationship?

Well I can tell you that DP and I are now 6 years into a fulfilling relationship, and neither of us expects the other to provide either financially or otherwise for our own kids - I'm ultimately responsible for my DD; DP is responsible for his two kids. But because we don't expect or need the other to get more involved with the parenting of each other's kids (financially or otherwise), according to you, the relationship is worthless and we should just throw the whole thing down the pan.

Right.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 28/02/2021 14:51

@SpongebobNoPants

She also kicked off recently about me not having them here in the week. DP goes to work at 6am so the kids can’t stay over in the week. I work from home at the moment and I’ve had “well why can’t spongebob have them?” Well 5 reasons:
  1. I’m not their parent and shouldn’t even be factored into the equation
  2. I’m working and trying to homeschool 2 young kids at the same time
  3. Our internet isn’t the best and definitely couldn’t withstand 5 of us on it trying to zoom, send emails etc concurrently
  4. I don’t want to
  5. She doesn’t work, wtf should I juggle all the children whilst trying to work when her kids have an available parent at home, literally doing nothing
One of these trumps all the others.

4 - You don't want to.

You have shown that you are not unreasonable - in an emergency situation you'd step up and help, but you very understandably don't want to become an unpaid babysitter for someone who can't even be bothered to be courteous towards you.

Let your DP and his ex sort it between them - as they have been for the past 11 years until she decided that things should be different.

And never give her a single concession ever again unless it is LITERALLY a life-and-death situation.

No good deed goes unpunished . . .

MessAllOver · 28/02/2021 14:53

Why is she so keen to have her children who don't need childcare out of the house so much? I thought most teenagers lived in their rooms anyway.

Beautiful3 · 28/02/2021 14:54

You've done absolutely nothing wrong. You were kind to have had them, on those fridays pre christmas. Honestly she sounds like one of those people who when you give an inch, they take a mile! Anyway lesson learned, don't offer again. Leave childcare between the two of them.

BungleandGeorge · 28/02/2021 14:54

It’s not your responsibility. I can’t work out whether your partner is being unreasonable as I’m not sure what contact he usually has? Is he doing less nights than he was? She has them more time than him so I’m not sure I agree with you saying she has loads of time ‘off’ already. However, personally I’d want my kids with me if Dad wasn’t around. What time is he picking them up on a Saturday?

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 14:55

She's being asked if they can hang around her/their dad's house when their dad isn't there rather than hanging around their mum's house with their mum
Yes, exactly this. Also if it was the kids saying they wanted to hang out with me then that’s a different matter entirely, but it’s not. It’s purely for the benefit of their mum.

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MessAllOver · 28/02/2021 14:57

I mean, I'd be the first to say if that's the contact arrangement, then it's up to the dad to sort it or organise a babysitter. But these kids don't need a babysitter. The only reason they come is to see their dad (and not for childcare).

LouJ85 · 28/02/2021 14:57

Well she’s like a dog with a bone. Now the kids are saying “mum says you’re being out of order. It’s not fair on her”.

I'd just say "oh does she? That's nice. I'll let your Dad deal with that one".

RandomMess · 28/02/2021 15:03

Ask the DC why their Mum is so desperate to not have them at home with her, does she have a new boyfriend or something?

LouJ85 · 28/02/2021 15:03

@MessAllOver

Why is she so keen to have her children who don't need childcare out of the house so much? I thought most teenagers lived in their rooms anyway.

My DD (14) spends most of her time in her room, I barely notice she's there most of the time! She (mostly) makes her own meals as she's hungry at different time to us etc. I can go out or not, doesn't matter, she's self sufficient enough to manage while I get on with what I need to do.

So the only reason I can think of... for wanting teenagers out of the house completely, is to have a date come over?? You'd want the house to yourself then maybe? Been so long since I dated though I wouldn't know. 😂

BungleandGeorge · 28/02/2021 15:04

@RandomMess

Ask the DC why their Mum is so desperate to not have them at home with her, does she have a new boyfriend or something?
No don’t, that’s horrible and it’s not the kids fault. And actually you can still love you kids and need a break!
Livelovebehappy · 28/02/2021 15:06

Issue to be sorted between your DP and his ex. If your DP has them certain nights and there are times when he’s not available, then he needs to organise childcare on the nights/days he should have them. Obviously not necessarily for you, but someone else to do on his behalf. It is what it is.

Iflyaway · 28/02/2021 15:06

I was just going to say, wonder if she's having a secret affair.

She's very OTT.

MessAllOver · 28/02/2021 15:06

So the only reason I can think of... for wanting teenagers out of the house completely, is to have a date come over??

Yes, but sounds like she has at least 1-2 weekend evenings a fortnight without them there. Or she could always go to date's house for the evening and leave 16yo in charge?

No less baffled Confused.

MessAllOver · 28/02/2021 15:08

If your DP has them certain nights and there are times when he’s not available, then he needs to organise childcare on the nights/days he should have them.

But he doesn't need to organise childcare. They're 12 and 16! They don't need childcare - it's just a question of which house they sit around in.

LouJ85 · 28/02/2021 15:10

@MessAllOver

So the only reason I can think of... for wanting teenagers out of the house completely, is to have a date come over??

Yes, but sounds like she has at least 1-2 weekend evenings a fortnight without them there. Or she could always go to date's house for the evening and leave 16yo in charge?

No less baffled Confused.

Good point. No idea in that case.

My DD often changes her mind now she's older about going to her Dad's EOW or holidays, she'll just tell him herself she doesn't want to go anymore as she's (pre Covid) meeting friends or whatever. I don't notice the difference in the weekends she's here versus not really, as not much about routine needs to change.

Maybe these kids are difficult teens at their mum's house?? 🤷‍♀️

RandomMess · 28/02/2021 15:10

Perhaps the DC can enlighten their Dad to why their Mum wants to be alone so much though 🤷🏽‍♀️

The only reason DH and I would like them all out the house would be to have daytime sex! Never happens they have a secret code so we never have the house to ourselves without the risk of someone coming home.

LouJ85 · 28/02/2021 15:13

The only reason DH and I would like them all out the house would be to have daytime sex!

I was going to say, but I'm glad you did first.

Yes - the only difference when DD is here versus not is that DP and I can be erm, more adventurous. 😂

ProfessorPootle · 28/02/2021 15:14

YNBU I think you need to block her and let your dh exclusively deal with her and his kids, she’s his ex it’s his problem. And never ever in future change the arrangements again to help her out as she then took it for granted that you’d carry on. No is a complete sentence, it’s all you need to say.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 28/02/2021 15:17

YANBU at all.

But I do agree that the SC should butt out - and should be met with "that's between your father and your mother and absolutely nothing to do with me" to shut them down.

Honestly, the entitlement is quite unbelievable except that I do believe it - I have a distant relative who would have fit neatly into that category if she'd ever let her H go (she didn't, she had him completely under her thumb and even made him give up work - oh yes, she did - to stay at home and "help her with the children" because she CBA)

LouJ85 · 28/02/2021 15:21

*during one her tirades DP suggested he take up a lower paid role so he could go 50/50 with the kids and she hit the roof.
“You can’t reduce CMS I need it!”
“You’re not taking my kids away from me!”
Which was bizarre considering she constantly moans about needing a break.

She wants to have her cake and eat it. She wants to not work, DP to pay for everything and to be on demand for anything else she needs.*

I think we have the same DP exW on our hands. 😂

Bilgepumper · 28/02/2021 15:21

[quote blackcatroundabout]@SpongebobNoPants I don't think you're being unreasonable at all! [/quote]
This ^

Lovemusic33 · 28/02/2021 15:26

I’m going to disagree with most people and say that your dp is responsible for them during his arranged contact time, if he has to work then he has to find child care. As they are 12 and 16 I don’t really see the issue with them hanging out at their dads house, they don’t really need child care do they? If you don’t want to care for them then your dp needs to find another arrangement maybe with another family member.

I also agree that their mother deserves some free time during what was meant to be an agreement on contact (EOW).

Really it’s up to your DP to sort something as they are his responsibility during his contact time, I don’t think ex is being a bitch at all.

CallmeAngelina · 28/02/2021 15:26

I remember some of your previous threads and I would say you've totally "got" this. You have clear and firm boundaries and are not afraid of asserting them, clearly and kindly.

Don't waver.

MissConductUS · 28/02/2021 15:28

The only thing that’s changed is I stupidly tried to do a nice thing and help out previously but I’m no longer willing to do so.

No good deed goes unpunished. Good on you for standing up for yourself.