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Struggling blended family.

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Pelaz · 02/02/2021 20:55

Help! (Very, very long rant.)

My husband and I have been together for 6 years. We are both professionals and go out to work. He has 2 children from a previous marriage, (14yrs/10yrs) and we have two children of our own DD 5yrs and DD 2yrs.

I was introduced to his children when they were four and eight and like to think I have gone above and beyond to make them feel welcome. I have been in the youngest life longer than what I haven't. Their mother has been toxic from day one, she doesn't work - out of choice, stating she gets more from benefits than she would if she worked, as shock horror that would mean having to pay her rent.

We explained from the word go that we always wanted the children to feel that they had two homes as apposed to "dad's house". I personally (not dad) paid 10k of my own money to get an extra room for his eldest, I personally (not dad) paid to get a seven seater so we could all fit in the car together, we pay for ALL school lunches, extra curricular activities, clothes for both houses and holidays etc. (Our biologic children haven't even had their old lady rooms decorated since moving into our new house 3yrs ago.)

Birth mum has always made it difficult for us to see/have any involvement with the children. She plays mind games with them all the time, she has told them straight up that no one can have two homes, and that they should call ours "dad's house". She gets them involved in disagreements, showing them messages and making them aware there is trouble in the water, then drops them in the middle and tells them to choose a side. She sends them with clothes and pre made bags that she packs herself despite us having everything we need for them here. She makes all decisions relating to the children without any input from dad- doctors/dentist/school etc and we only find out in hindsight. She gives them anything and everything they want to compensate for her ignoring them for TV/Facebook/men - including a brand new ps5 (whilst on benefits). This is literally just the surface but hopefully you get the picture.

The thing is, six years later, they are turning into mini her, they have no ambition in life and often whinge about why we go out to work, reflecting that the benefit system is the way of life. They visit and whinge from day one, they blatantly state they don't want to be here and we "drag" them. They don't tidy up after themselves and genuinely believe that's what our job is. They are constantly glued to some sort of computer/phone and are completely disrespectful to myself and their two siblings, the eldest even asked his father "why do you put up with her?(me)" whilst I was there in the room (obviously dad put him in his place). This is a world apart from our two, who have routine, ambition, love to be outdoors, travel, clean up after themselves and talk as apposed to be glued to a device. As they are getting older the divide is becoming more and more obvious and my patience more and more thin.

My husband and I keep our finances seperate, and I have often used my own money to take everyone on holiday abroad etc, however the last holiday (2 weeks in Greece) his two moaned for two weeks straight how bored they were and how Butlins would have been better and that they cannot wait to get home (we was practically at the Greek version of Butlins).

So this year, after saving and being my ultimate life goal I wanted to take the children to lapland before they get too old, however I explained to my husband that I cannot afford to take his two, especially as they will spend such magical time whinging and saying they'd rather be at home(also one is not a believer). I told my husband I would obviously love to go as a family but he would need to fund his two, to which he couldn't. We have since been in a constant argument as apparently that means that i either have to fund the very ungrateful children who don't even want to be there or not take the other eager and well deserving two at all.

I love my husband and I love all our children. But I do not love that our two children are having to compromise to accommodate such ungrateful young children.

We each think the other is wrong and we just cannot agree on this. I have tried so hard from day one, I've been there for school plays, dentist appointments, pickups, night terrors, etc and financially provided for holidays abroad, savings accounts, house conversions etc and still get treated like crap from them, my main argument is not to do with his or mine, it's to do with who is deserving, and from my view point they do not deserve to go due to their behaviour and their ungratefulness on the last holiday, therefore I'm not going to break the bank to get them there. It would be the same for my two biological children should they be so rude/ungrateful. I have however said if he feels differently he can find them, but that is a no too.

So to summarise I don't actually know what I want, am I wrong? Is he wrong? Does it ever get easier? Is anyone else in the same boat?

OP posts:
aSofaNearYou · 08/02/2021 15:30

I pointed out what is very clearly abusive and bullying behaviour towards a child. Randomly repeating my words back at me is pointless and makes you sound like a 5 year old.

Really? So very rude.

It is not clearly abusive and bullying at all. That is evident from the fact that many here disagree with you on the matter, even though most also agree that they would not parent this way.

The fact is bargaining with presents is not an established form of abuse. And people used to send their 8 year old's out to work and marry them off, what is abuse or not is "clearly" entirely subjective on the far more tame issue at hand. Potentially damaging, yes, but not inherently abusive.

Helloandhelloagain · 08/02/2021 16:24

I think you can be ambitious at 5?? ....... my son wanted to be a rock 😂

BlueThistles · 08/02/2021 16:32

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SchoonerP · 08/02/2021 17:04

If you're not the OP then how on earth can you say the OP "will act accordingly"? It's bit odd no? @BlueThistles

BlueThistles · 08/02/2021 18:46

@SchoonerP

If you're not the OP then how on earth can you say the OP "will act accordingly"? It's bit odd no? *@BlueThistles*

Feel free to ask the Moderators to investigate me...

Ive never name changed and Im not the OP... but if that helps you accept someone having a differing opinion to you then you carry on... ☺️

SandyY2K · 08/02/2021 19:07

Please God I pray that my own children don’t become step children

This is why some women (and men) remain in bad relationships, especially where they have had a bad experience as a stepchildren themselves.

There's a fear of how their kids will be treated by SF or SM... and with a lot of men, a fear that another man will see their child more than they do.

MagentaDoesNotExist · 10/02/2021 02:59

@aSofaNearYou

I pointed out what is very clearly abusive and bullying behaviour towards a child. Randomly repeating my words back at me is pointless and makes you sound like a 5 year old.

Really? So very rude.

It is not clearly abusive and bullying at all. That is evident from the fact that many here disagree with you on the matter, even though most also agree that they would not parent this way.

The fact is bargaining with presents is not an established form of abuse. And people used to send their 8 year old's out to work and marry them off, what is abuse or not is "clearly" entirely subjective on the far more tame issue at hand. Potentially damaging, yes, but not inherently abusive.

Great. As a person who grew up in an abusive home myself, I'm not going to take advice about what is or isn't abuse who thinks it's "subjective" whether making an 8 year old get married or work is abusive.

I hope you do not have children.

aSofaNearYou · 10/02/2021 10:11

Great. As a person who grew up in an abusive home myself, I'm not going to take advice about what is or isn't abuse who thinks it's "subjective" whether making an 8 year old get married or work is abusive. I hope you do not have children.

You really can't help yourself, can you? You've just thrown the same, ridiculously excessive insult at ME about hoping I dont have children, because of YOUR misunderstanding. Clearly you will throw that out for anything, which says a lot about you.

No of course I don't think it is acceptable to marry an 8 year old off or send them to work. I mentioned those things to provide perspective to your statement that involving an 8 year old's birthday present in discipline is "clearly and obviously" abuse. Clearly and obviously, that is not true.

Historically people have done an enormous degree worse and not considered it abuse, it is not in enshrined in law as abuse now, and several on this thread disagreed with you that it is abuse. I think it is unwise, but I think it is a long way away from abuse, in isolation. Certainly not the deliberate kind that merits OP not deserving children.

But go ahead, wish my daughter out of existence because you didn't like my words on an online forum, despite having no idea how I parent her. It's clearly your go to response and an issue you need to work out within yourself.

MagentaDoesNotExist · 10/02/2021 12:25

@aSofaNearYou

Great. As a person who grew up in an abusive home myself, I'm not going to take advice about what is or isn't abuse who thinks it's "subjective" whether making an 8 year old get married or work is abusive. I hope you do not have children.

You really can't help yourself, can you? You've just thrown the same, ridiculously excessive insult at ME about hoping I dont have children, because of YOUR misunderstanding. Clearly you will throw that out for anything, which says a lot about you.

No of course I don't think it is acceptable to marry an 8 year old off or send them to work. I mentioned those things to provide perspective to your statement that involving an 8 year old's birthday present in discipline is "clearly and obviously" abuse. Clearly and obviously, that is not true.

Historically people have done an enormous degree worse and not considered it abuse, it is not in enshrined in law as abuse now, and several on this thread disagreed with you that it is abuse. I think it is unwise, but I think it is a long way away from abuse, in isolation. Certainly not the deliberate kind that merits OP not deserving children.

But go ahead, wish my daughter out of existence because you didn't like my words on an online forum, despite having no idea how I parent her. It's clearly your go to response and an issue you need to work out within yourself.

So you think that we should judge what is abuse based on what people historically did to children, prior to human rights being enshrined in law and other protective legislation. You are bonkers.
aSofaNearYou · 10/02/2021 12:42

@MagentaDoesNotExist

🤦‍♀️ No of course I don't. It's probably best you forget I mentioned things people used to do to put your definition of clear, undeniable abuse into perspective, because the nuance of the argument seems to be confusing you. It was a throwaway comment. The point is that this is not a strong enough example of clear cut abuse to describe it as "clear", "obvious", or reason enough for OPs children to be taken from her, as some things in the past have been 🙄

I have no doubt here that it is clear for all to see that I am NOT bonkers. What has actually happened is you have been excessively rude and instead of backing down, you are digging your heels in and insulting anybody that calls you out on it. OP and I should not be parents, Magda is a 5 year old.... the common denominator is you going from 0 to 60 with all the OTT nastiness you can muster.

MagentaDoesNotExist · 10/02/2021 13:09

Pointing out abusive behaviour to a child is not rude. And even though for some bizarre reason you find it rude, I am more concerned about the welfare of the child than about whether your feelings are hurt so no, I am not sorry for calling it out. I am sorry for any child who has to live with a parent who thinks bullying a child like that is acceptable. Your argument that the behaviour isn't abusive because people used to be even more abusive to children is ridiculous. 🙄

aSofaNearYou · 10/02/2021 13:39

@MagentaDoesNotExist Oh whatever then, you are evidently just a very rude person.

That is not my argument and never was. My argument is that what OP is doing itself is not child abuse, though I agree it may affect her children negatively, but many parents make minor errors in judgement that have a negative impact, to say they should not have children as a result is an extreme and highly insulting response.

Frankly, I feel for YOUR children if you are teaching them to be this rude, and feel that would be as much of a parenting error as what OP has done.

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