Dla wait time part 2 2022

[Ltb17]

Set new one up as old thread ended @April202 @Nicky80catri @Leaf1216 can't remember any other names

@Bizzlemizzle honestly it seems like you need to fight tooth and nail for an ehcp for your son. Without it you won’t get the support you need. Being senco registered really only benefits the school as they get funding for the amount of children who are senco registered. I know this because my middle daughter was senco yet now in secondary she’s flying ahead and has a English and maths ability of a year 9 student. They literally saw that she was a little slow to begin with and then whipped her up as one of their ‘senco’ candidates and viola another box ticked and another one to add to the money pot, yet they gave her 0 help. Senco won’t get you son the help he needs he needs an ehcp.

I've heard this that even after diagnosis you still have to fight for the support. I honestly believed once you get a diagnosis things are better. I've been told it's not and you still have to battle to the correct support

Adding pupils to the SEN register does not automatically mean the school receives more funding. The Notional SEN Budget isn’t calculated like that. It is calculated using a formula that takes several things into account e.g. prior attainment and FSM eligibility. Here is a link confirming this.

Support is based on needs rather than diagnosis so a diagnosis won’t automatically change things. But schools have a duty to make their ‘best endeavours’ to meet a pupil’s SEN even without a diagnosis and without an EHCP. An EHCP is the way to go to secure additional support, including therapies, above and beyond what is typically otherwise provided.

Do I just tell them I want one putting in place or do they have to tell me that's what they are doing? In which case its never going to happen

You can apply for an EHCNA yourself, IPSEA have a model letter you can use. You don’t need the school to agree, although it helps to have their support. Don’t listen if the school or LA try to put you off, some incorrectly tell parents their child doesn’t need or won’t get an EHCP. Appeal if the LA refuse to assess or issue as the majority of appeals are upheld.

As well as IPSEA, SOSSEN have lots of helpful information on their website and an advice line.

@Legofigure the link you gave me just confirmed what I’d already said.
interesting read thanks.

@Needanewadventure2021

Sometimes you have to fight but I’ve found with my daughter having an ehcp so that her needs are legally defined on paper has really helped as well as being in a really supportive school.
you need an ehcp for a place at a special needs school and really it’s the only way forward. It’s also useful for when you’re applying for Dla because it proves that they need the extra help without you having to convince them so much.
if your sons needs are as high as you suggest and his school hasn’t even suggested an ehcp then if I were you I’d be looking at changing schools so that he can be put in front of teachers who know what they’re doing.

Be positive. hope we all get some good news today x

@Sarah3587 The link doesn’t confirm what you said because you said Being senco registered really only benefits the school as they get funding for the amount of children who are senco registered. which isn’t true. You went on to imply by adding your DD to the SEN register the school received more more, which isn’t true. The link confirms funding is “not based on the school’s actual numbers of pupils with special needs, but on a formula.“

@Legofigure yes the formula then provides extra financial support based on the number of pupils on frees school meals and number of children who are achieving below a set standard in maths and English.
We weren’t even informed she was on the sen register. We found a letter a year later crumpled in a tiny side pocket of an old school bag. We’d attended parents evening twice and never was it mentioned let alone any conversation about extra help or any struggles. In fact her teacher said she was an ‘above average’ student and star pupil.
so after talking to family and friends who work in schools and a few of them work in special needs the only conclusion we could come to was that because she started off slowly in primary she was used to boost the numbers as they know this happens sometimes.
Then when I looked into it I found hundreds of posts from women with the same experience. sen registry , no prior notice of it, no extra support, no actual need for it.

I've been looking at changing his school since year 1, his in year 3 now. There are no places available in our area and I refuse to move him to an underperforming school. Moving him is still an option but right now whilst I cant find a suitable place I want to make use of the interventions he is having and I will keep on at them.
I don't necessarily want a special school for my DS. Part of me still hopes his needs can be managed in a mainstream and he can access the full curriculum (hoping maybe?) with a care plan in place. But we will have to see

Most of your most recent post I didn’t comment on. I only posted about the Notional SEN Budget, which doesn’t work how you implied. Your post implied schools add pupils to the SEN register because they get more funding for each pupil they add. They don’t, so no, schools do not boost the numbers on the SEN register in order to get more funding. Whoever told you that clearly doesn’t understand how the Notional SEN Budget works.

Being above average doesn’t mean a pupil can’t also have SEN needs.

@Needanewadventure2021 does he have an ehcp? I can't remember sorry. Sounds like he may benefit from a smaller school where they can identify his needs as it's almost sounds like he's getting lost in a crowd and his needs aren't being identified by the school.

@Ltb17 on the phone to them now. Wish me luck xxx

@Nicky80catri ooo good luck, keep us updated

Good luck @Nicky80catri

Well I rang only on 23 March aperently aprils will be in next two weeks

Following, scan date 30th March, so still a few weeks wait I think

@Ltb17 still no decision. Can't believe this x

@Ltb17 no, no care plan in place. School are adamant he is happy and loves school so doesn't need one. My parents do the school runs for me and they tell me everytime 'there is no bloody chance he enjoys school, look at him. He isn't the boy we knew. His angry and physically aggressive. He never wants to talk and has become withdrawn. His either angry screaming or crying'. It upsets me as school are so resistant. I understand he may display very different in school. He actually ticks most of the characteristics of PDA but school won't accept this as he isn't diagnosed. Its so frustrating honestly.
I actually broke down to the doctor and asked if I was the problem. I was told that Unfortunately if school are being this resistant I need to be ready for a very hard fight. He is doing what he can (well says he is) but everyone needs to work together which they arent

@Naomis121 omg did they say wether it's even with decision maker or not. Seems crazy considering people after the date are being done!

@Needanewadventure2021 have you considered applying for one yourself? You don't need school to do it for you? Your son sounds so similar to mine, he has behaviour and anger problems but school haven't noticed it like we have at home. They have now accepted that he is likely to be masking at school, his gp wants to do a referral to cahms for him but need a report from the school to do so. They didn't feel the need to so I arranged a meeting with senco and told her wether she feels the need or not is irrelevant I am requesting she does one as is my gp and if she doesn't I'll have no choice but to report her for failing to do her job correctly as she is failing to identify that my child has needs. She soon got her but in gear. Sometimes you just have to be the bitch they don't want to see. The way I see it is I'm not there to be friends with the teachers at my kids school I'm there to ensure they get an education and the support they need, if they don't like me for it I couldn't care less.

@Ltb17 I put this is writing to her yesterday. I dont expect a response during half term but I am fully willing to take it further now

scan Date 15th March and heard nothing anyone else heard anything from 15th March

@Indr am march 18th and still with DM Hun but yours should have been done by now I would ring them x