Sleep regression. Anyone else want to join!? Sleepless mums!

[pinkgin1]

Currently going through what I believe could be a four month sleep regression? For ages my son slept really well didn't wake up in the night and if he did it was for one bottle then slept. Most nights slept 9:30pm till about 8am next day.
Has alllllllllll gone out the window the past week 🤣 I always knew the good sleep wouldn't last long and I appreciated it when it did but it's kinda making me feel extremely tired now including my partner🥱
How long does it last?? Will it go on for months?? Will I ever have a 8-8 again? 😥😥🤣
The strange thing is if he wakes up. As soon as I place him onto my bed and pillow he sleeps. So if it was a sleep regression surely he would wake also in my bed?

@pinkgin1 good naps. Funny bed time! He didn't cry, just stared silently at the ceiling for almost an hour. He did have a little laugh at my fringe bobbing up and down. Then he "asked" for some milk by stroking my chest. V cute mate but close your eyes (while I feed you)! Took an hour and a half.

Hopefully he'll stay down a while!

Good luck to everyone 🙂 x

Oh he's awake haha 😵

Been trying to get DD to bed for 2.5 hours not got high hopes for tonight.

Oh @JammyRedRooo that's soul destroying! Can you just stop for a while? Let her play for 20mins or nappy change, then try again? If you haven't already

@JammyRedRooo is baby showing signs of tiredness? Sorry if what I'm asking isn't helpful! Otherwise I agree with @Mytigerhasstripyfeet and just play lying on bed for a while

@Sneezymcsneezy @Mytigerhasstripyfeet
Thanks for the suggestions- She has basically been feeding on and off since 7:30pm. When she falls asleep she pops off my breast and either i'll put her down in her cot and she will immediately wake up or we dont make it that far and within a few minutes of coming off she moans to go back on. It's just like when she was a newborn. Bouncing/swaying doesn't seem to be making much difference but she definitely doesn't seem awake enough to want to play

@JammyRedRooo how is she now? Hopefully you're not reading this 🙂

She must have needed the extra calories. Or comfort. Growth spurt maybe? Sounds like you're doing an amazing job.

I'd probably not bother with putting son in his cot under those circumstances. If he wakes a few times we tend to let him snooze on one of us until it's bed time for the grownups too. Could be an option? I'm sure you've thought of this too...

It's nice to have at least 1 hr of quiet in the evening if possible! I'm always miffed if this doesn't happen.

@JammyRedRooo How was your night in the end? Did LO settle?

Rough night for us. Lost count of the wake ups but in the region of 8-10 times. I feel broken today. She was making these awful grunting cries, like she was windy but she’d burped after feeds. I’m wondering if I’m feeding too frequently in the day and contributing to night wakes. I don’t log feeds but I probably feed her every 1.5-2 hours as anytime she’s grumpy I just feed her as it shuts her up 😂 she’s so different from my son who was a very difficult baby but I’d say she’s even worse which I didn’t think was possible.

Well we finally had some kind of improvement. Took over an hour to get him down, went in crib at 7.45. Wake up at 9.40 quick feed and back down, and then up every 2 hours. More excited about the fact that we're up at 7am instead of 5!! Had to change a dirty nappy at 4 and was convinced he would be up, even made a coffee but went back upstairs and he fed to sleep. Little victory to keep me going today.

@LCF2021 it's interesting you say that because I've been wondering the same, I feed LO every 2 hours and also offer him boob if he seems distressed. I read that it's possible it can increase night feedings but I'm in two minds about it because surely if they weren't hungry/thirsty they would stay asleep??

Also a bad night here as I'm travelling and he clearly hates his travel cot, refuses bum pats outright so either fed or held to sleep then up at 7 🥲 I know 7 is normal but when we work to an 8.30am schedule it's so painful

Yay well done @ayylauren !!

I managed to get her down into her crib just after 1am. Only for 3 hours though then she woke wanting to be fed again. DH took her this morning so I got another hours sleep before he went to work. Not ideal but at least it was something. I'm so tired today though!

I'm REALLY struggling to get her to have a good feed in the day so it's entirely possible that she is just really hungry at night. She just isnt interested at all, even if I make the room as dark and boring as possible. This is a completely new development as shes always LOVED breastfeeding no matter what time of day. I've no idea how to fix it though. Kind of the opposite dilemma to you @LCF2021!

Aw @Sneezymcsneezy that sounds tough, how long are you away for?

@JammyRedRooo 4 days, I made sure to delay his first nap for as long as possible to realign the day naps, only 20 minutes earlier than normal... But a very tired baby by the end of it. The feeding thing I also had the same thing a few weeks back when he was 4.5 months, I just consolidated feeds/snacking and fed him as soon as he woke up after each nap so he hasn't had a chance to get curious and then if feed goes badly I'd just boob him to nap.

Lo still asleep in his cot
How's everyone's night going?? Again 😅
I hope some of you have had some rest x

Hi
Can I join? I think we are 1 week into DD's 15 month regression. I miss my sleep. She is so high needs in the day that I start cleaning and other work related stuff after she goes to sleep. But now that there's no sleep.......fhaocbapfbsofbsofndlaid. Currently trying to make her drowsy on the boob but she's wide awake. Can't wait for this to end ahhhhh. She went to bed at 7.30 and woke up thrice before being fully awake.

Hi @JimHalpertsPA have you had any sleep yet? 🙂

Terrible for us. She drifted off to sleep fairly easily at 9:30pm and allowed me to put her down so I dared to have high hopes. Silly me, I managed to fall asleep about an hour later and then she woke up in tears at midnight. Been up with her since on the cry/feed/attempt to put down cycle. I give up now, I'm just going to cuddle her until morning. So an hour and a half sleep for me, yay.

I hate being so woe is me but I've found myself in tears a few times tonight. I'm so tired and disheartened and the fact it's all happening over Christmas when I really wanted to have an amazing December to make up for the crap one last year. As it stands the tree is only half decorated because we are both too busy and knackered to sort it, and I'm not looking forward to any of the events/meals I've got coming up anymore because I know il just be tired the whole time.

I love my DD so much and seeing her smile in the morning makes my heart swell but I genuinely don't understand how long I'm supposed to do this for.

Argh sorry for the moan ladies.

@JammyRedRooo aw no you'd have to be a saint to be upbeat at 3.50am on 1.5h sleep. I just said JESUS CHRIST! at mine in a cross voice because I sniffed and he popped off my boob to stare at me. Now I feel guilty, he's gone back to feeding, being all cute and stroking my hand.

Funny how one minute you can be so frustrated and the next be all, aw I love you.

I've cried from lack of sleep before too. It's really hard to stay upbeat and I totally understand you feeling like it's ruining Christmas etc, being so tired sucks all the colour from the day.

I guess just try to find enjoyment in small momens and focus on that? The whole day doesn't have to be amazing...but it was nice having a mince pie with a friend, LO was excited by the fairy lights, cute (Or whatever you get up to).

Yeah I think you are right Tiger, it'll have to be the small things that get us through.

* angrily hangs baubles on Christmas tree *

Can I ask you guys a question. If I put my LO in the next2me and hold her hand or pat/stroke her but she still cries, am I leaving her to cry it out? DH says I'm not because I'm there soothing her the entire time but it feels to me like if she's still sobbing it's not comfort enough so I pick her back up. But its nowhere near the same as leaving the room and letting her cry herself to sleep?

@JammyRedRooo

Yeah I think you are right Tiger, it'll have to be the small things that get us through.

angrily hangs baubles on Christmas tree

Hahah yeah it's much easier said than done. I'm a grumpy-arse this morning.

Hmm personally yes I'd see it as a form of cry it out, I know that's potentially a bit controversial. But I also think it can't be as upsetting for them as being left alone entirely. So maybe it's a middle ground.

Also has anyone else developed a serious sugar addiction?

Must stop buying chocolate!

Hit and miss last night, out and about in the afternoon and instead of taking a nap in the car like I expected, we had mega meltdown screams all the way home. I expected him to feed and sleep but he just wanted to play so we had early bedtime and he went down at 6.30. A few wake ups till 1am then up every half an hour again tried to cosleep from around 4 but woke up at 5 to LO grabbing my face and smiling then held him to sleep (as he woke every time I put him down) before getting up at 7. Seems to be one step forward two steps back at the moment

@Mytigerhasstripyfeet I'm obsessed with chocolate and cakes and treats!! I never had a sweet tooth before baby. Are you BF? I've heard it's common to crave sugar and fats. I'm really bad at the moment even sometimes have a sneaky bit of chocolate with my morning brew

@JammyRedRooo that's a tough one because she's aware you are there but they don't understand why we aren't picking them up when they want us to, so imo it's mostly the same as crying it out. I don't know what to think about sleep training because as much as I'd love more sleep I sort of believe they'll start sleeping better when they're ready to. I'm not going to consider it until LO is at least 6 months anyways

@ayylauren I am BF yes. I have wondered if the cravings are related as they're quite extreme and I'm still losing weight despite the amount of sugar I'm getting through. I'm below my pre pregnancy weight now.

Was just thinking I'm going to make an effort after Xmas too look after myself more. Switch to better options like nuts and dried fruit. Maybe start jogging again.

Really hope the boy is better by then!

We're hosting Christmas and have family staying. Beginning to worry about being stuck in our bedroom with a wide awake child, as all the other rooms will be taken up by family. At the moment my partner is taking son downstairs at 5.30 so I can sleep. Or if he needs to be bounced one of us will take him down so the other can sleep. We had ppl staying recently and it was such a pain trying to quiely entertain the baby in our small bedroom at 5am.

The good thing is everyone will want to play with him and he's always cheerful when he has different people around.

What's everyone else doing for Christmas?

@JammyRedRooo Absolutely no shame in tears about sleep. It’s hell at times and it becomes all consuming. That dread before bedtime is like nothing else and when that becomes every single night that’s awful.
With regards to staying with baby and soothing when they’re crying I don’t believe that’s like CIO. CIO is leaving them and closing the door. My son was like that at 6 months and we spent weeks trying to soothe him but often our presence made him worse, presumably because he wanted to be held. I’m not against sleep training eg controlled crying because I genuinely believe that if it works and everyone is well rested you can be a better parent. At 6 months with my 1st I was at breaking point and my mental health had taken a total battering after 2 months of hourly wake ups. You have to do what’s right for you and your family. A lot of the “experts” on Instagram talk about leaning into biological norms eg. Feeding to sleep etc. However, that only works if it works and for my girl it’s stopped working at bedtime so we’re having to try different strategies and if there’s no improvement at 6 months we’ll consider more structured “training”.