Anyone want to accompany me while i sleep train DD?

[MrsKoala]

I am starting to sleep train 13mo DD tonight. She has been a terrible sleeper since birth and always co-slept on the boob. I had a consultation with a sleep expert today who has talked me thru a gentle process of sleep training.

I am starting tonight as DH is away for a week from next Thursday, so i want it in place for then. DH is not particularly supportive because he hates them crying (and i love it obviously ) so it would be great if there was someone who was doing theirs at the same time for a mutual support group!

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I can't believe this. (i'm going rant now - apologies) But i'm coming down with ANOTHER fucking cold. I've been achey all day and now my noses totally blocked. The cough is a tickly hacking one. Banging headache.DD appears to have exactly the same thing and i am still holding her upright while she sleeps and i try not to cough.

I've had a mini breakdown about it to DH tonight. I just want to be ill alone and not holding babies and then get bloody better! I have huge blue puffy bags under my eyes.

Rage.

@MrsKoala that's crap! You are having your fair share, I can't imagine. Have you tried taking vitamin D3? It's one of the main reasons for people getting ill in the winter is a lack of it from the sun so lower immunity. I had a bad deficiency a few years back and didn't even know it! Now I take it everyday and I only got colds during pregnancy. Not really helpful for right now, I know, but perhaps help prevent future colds? I know lack of sleep isn't helpful either. It's a viscous cycle. Feel better soon xx

MrsK, this advice wont help you right now but if I were in your situation I’d wean DD very soon.

I think until you do this, you’re never going to get a good nights sleep. You have 3 dc, a H who isn’t the most sympathetic, so you NEED to look after yourself. Sleep is one of the most important things. Wean DD and you’ll get a lot more of it!

Thank you for the link Cariad. The first thing I did this morning was buy it on amazon! DD wasn't bad in the night considering she has a black eye (from head bump), a cold and her back 1st molars coming through. I thought they'd already poked through with no problems, but the teething devil has arrived!

MrsK, I really sympathise. You've had enough illness already. I'll have DD's cold soon enough and I'm a big pill popper when I'm ill, which I won't be able to do this time. I managed the whole of my last pregnancy without a single cold. This one's gonna be a bit different.

Lizzie - i agree. I think i will try to wean during the half term. There should be other stuff going on so she will be distracted.

Colds during pregnancy are shit Fanny. The illest i was was when i was pregnant with dd i got a summer cold and it took hold for 4 week. I lost my voice, kept fainting, had 5 cold sores. I remember doing the school pick ups and being huge and feeling like i was underwater.

Cariad - i think i'llorder one of those too - thanks for recommending.

DD and I are just sitting round in our PJs while the boys have all gone to soft play and out for lunch. We've just had a 2 hr nap together and i think we both look and feel better for it.

How's everyone getting On?
DS's sleep gets better through the week. Monday 7-5, Tues 7-6, weds 7-7. All ready for nursery to ruin it Thurs & fri! He is 1 today!! Can't believe that year has gone so fast. And my AF decided to turn up today aswell, unless it's due to the sickness I had last week affecting the pill I take.

My lo is quite poorly atm- so attached to a booby 24/7. I'm exhausted and we're both miserable. Roll on antibiotics kicking in!
Can nursery not match your routine?

Happy birthday mini boodles

They are trying to match it but he keeps waking early from naps. Only getting about 20-30 mins instead of his usual 1hr+. I'm hoping it's just time and needs to get used to his surroundings to settle better.

Happy Birthday Baby Boodles.

We are all still drowning in lurgies over here. I was called to pick up DS1 from school yesterday as he had a temp and was all limp. Had all of them home today, fighting and moaning. I'm still ill DH was off Monday which is the first sick day in years. DD is back to screaming every time she is put down and i have slept feeding her all night for the last week and i am feeling exhausted today and seriously grumpy. I'm back to swearing at the kids in my mind and getting really angry with them. So we have to go back to sleep training soon.

The house is a mess as no one has tidied/cleaned for over a week. We've been eating shite. i just can't get motivated to do anything on such crappy sleep tho.

We've had a horrible week. Big bump on head, horrendous teething, a cold and a bad reaction to the 12 month jabs. All together! DD slept with me for one night and neither of us got any sleep. Last night she was awake every 2 hours. I've caught her cold and I feel more exhausted than ever. I usually manage ok on not much sleep, but I think the combination of no sleep, illness and growing a tiny human has taken it's toll on me this week.

Count me in on the bad week 11mo DD has started waking every hour after midnight and DP is away for weeks so it's all on me. I've been giving in at about 3am and bringing her in with me. Total backslide x

O dear horrible week all round. The sickness is just never ending! DS still has this awful cough that he only really does at night and still waking up covered in snot. He seems to have had this cold for over a month now and doesn't sound likes it's getting better.
Fanny I hadn't even thought about the 12month jabs so we will have that to look forward to soon aswell :-( hope you DD is ok now though.
MrsK don't worry about the cleaning etc that can wait!

Boodles - it's 4 injections! I didn't realise it was so many. It's really taken it's toll on DD.

I've just found out that my midwife from my pregnancy with DD has died. I'm so sad. Where I live, you see the same midwife throughout and she was our first visitor in hospital after DD was born. I think she was my age as well. It's probably my hormones, but I'm devastated. I've got a child free morning so I'm going back to bed!

4 injections?!! No wonder they feel poorly after! That's really sad about your midwife fanny, nice that you were able to build a relationship with her through your whole pregnancy. But yes definitely back to bed and relax as much as possible!

That's horrible Fanny. I would feel really sad if my midwife from having DD had died. It isn't hormones, it's caring.

We are having a tough night. DD is all better now so i've gone back to the night time routine and she isn't happy at all. She is furiously screaming at the moment. I'm going in and out but i think seeing me is making it worse. Every time she sees me she puts her arms up and when i don't pick her up she shakes with rage. Her face is all red and sweaty. :(

Oh, it's just stopped....

It's starting and stopping now. Screams for 10 seconds then stopping for about 30 seconds. Seem to be dying down.

Oh god. This is worse than when we first did it. She's calling Daddy now.

Went in and soothed her and rocked her and sang to her and she seemed to settle a bit. I put her back in the cot and rubbed her tunny and she ws nearly off and then DS2 (who has spent the last few days being a complete pain) came up the stairs calling me and shouting. Moshe immediately started screaming again. I took DS2 downstairs and then the crying stopped. I thought she had settled. But DH has just come down and said he went in and picked her up and laid on the bed with her till she went to sleep. So now she is on the bed. And was cuddled to sleep. Thanks DH. After an hour of me going in and doing CC. He said 'oh wasn't i meant to do that?'

Be strong MrsK. I think that if she's all better then you need to stick to it to get it done. The only worry is that you're going on holiday soon aren't you? Won't that put things back a bit? I felt so sorry for DD the past couple of nights because of her cold and her teeth, so I tried to do a more gentle bedtime and sat by her cot when she woke up. She went berserk that I was in her room but wouldn't pick her up. As soon as I left her to cry for a couple of minutes, she fell asleep! There was me trying to be nice and she just wanted me to either pick her up or leave her alone!

Oh how frustrating for you MrsK. Make sure DH knows the full plan and sticks to it or he will just undo all your hard work!
My DS Was the same if I stayed in the room, didn't understand why I wouldn't pick him up so I just found it better for him to leave him and check every few mins.

Oh Mrs K, you've had such an unfair run of illness.
We have good spells and I feel really pleased. It lasts about 4 nights and then illness, teething, an ill-timed nap or something else happens and it all goes wrong.
I've given up. I'm sitting with him until he falls asleep and co-sleeping if I can't get him to settle in his cot when he wakes. I just can't be arsed to start CC all over again every few weeks.

My friend found something similar when doing gradual retreat. Her little boy screamed with frustration and confusion if he could see her and then settled when she left the room.

I've cleaned downstairs today which took 5 hrs. 3 hrs just to tidy toys and clear the floor to prep for sweeping, hoovering and mopping! I didn't even clean the kitchen. Just toys and floors and some laundry. If i don't do 3 hrs everyday the house takes so long to get back to a liveable condition. Going to do upstairs tomo.

DS2 sleep is all over the place. Yesterday he fell asleep at 5.45pm and then woke at 8 and was up till midnight. Today i can't get him to sleep and he's downstairs with me now. I keep taking him up but he is so loud he wakes DD or DS1. DH has gone to do shopping for his dad. I'm shattered. I just want ds2 to go to bed so i can.

Good luck everyone.

DD been up since 2.45am. I persevered feeding and rocking and shushing till 3.45 but gave in and came downstairs for a cup of tea.

@MrsKoala I feel your pain. I've given in every night while staying at DM's but I I am home tonight and CC starts again tonight. Hope tonight is better for you x