New SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK thread - are we still here?

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Another thread. My didn't we get full quickly! night sleeping good. Naps...not even 5 mins so far today...

hi tam how the divil r ya? enjoying sunshine? just having a quick peek on mn whilst dd asleep. boys off at cinema......oh crap, phone just woken her grrrr. never mind, shall go outside and roll on the grass

don't you just hate when the phone disturbs the peace. mine rang while ds was asleep earlier and you've never seen me move so fast! luckily he slept through it. we don't have any sunshine here today supposed to be good tomorrow so fingers crossed.
ds having some lunch then we're off out for a mooch and to get some bits for dinner.
going to gym tonight. went to 3 classes last week so finally feel motivated agin to get rid of the 1/2 stone i've been hanging on to since ds born. no more excuses!
want to order a bikini from boden but mnet head ofice having trouble getting the 10% discount to work so will have to wait. go to portugal in 6 weeks. can't wait. hope your dd isn't too grouchy from being woken. x

shes ok, going to get some lunch and sit outside well done on the gym tam i'm not very motivated i'm afraid, walk everywhere tho, so thats my exercise! would like to firm up my tum. i'm still the same size i was, just a bit more 'jiggly' in some areas

oh and portugal sounds like a fabbo idea, room for a little one? (me, not dd!!!)

it's my tum too that needs sorted out. still jiggly from ds. would love to take you with me
enjoy the sun. off out x

hey everyone

last night was alright, he woke up twice although tonight am putting him in another room then i shall see if it makes any difference.

i think i've decided to do the pu/pd technique woudl like some advice on how to get started should i just go straight into it

wow amber and maewest u'se really had a rough one last night , you know what they say things can only get better (i think they are liars whoever they are)

i wish i was off to portugal like you tamdin am planing a trip to egypt but am dreaded it cuz of lo sleep issues argh

catch up with u all later

bye for now

bridge, things always get better, and then get worse again! oh well, two steps forward, 1.9 steps back ...

grrrr at teh phone thing! i take it off the hook and shove it under a cushion so i don't hear the warning beep etc. .

we had a good night again. lo put in cot awake - yes AWAKE!!!! and he went to sleep within after a grizzle within a couple of mins. .
he woke at 4am. quick boobjob, put him in cot AWAKE and he grizzled then nodded off till 6:35am! i never thought i would say this but cc was the best move i have made sleep wise. i'm still waiting for it all to go titsup but so far so good. 2nite i won't feed him when/if he wakes, just kiss, stroke his head and leave. feel quite nervous but feel ready.
dh kept me awake last night tho. 2 much wine and he snored and grunted the night away. gave some vicious nudges/kicks and he stopped after 2 hrs!!!!!
more later.....

bridge - good luck with pu/pd. let us know how it goes for you...

I just repeat the parenting mantra... 'It's just a phase' . Also, I don't have any other children to deal with, and am not back at work. Am in awe of those of you coping with sleep deprivation and other responsibilities. DS was kind to me this morning and went for a 90 min nap at 8am (woke up happy and quiet) so I got a good snooze in. Will try for a v early night tonight as well.

hope it goes well mae

Don't fret my fellow sleep deprived people, I'm still here, I haven't gone and got me a sleeping baby or anything in fact night before last she was a NIGHTMARE she woke at 11, 1, 2-3.30, 5 and 6.15. Was mega knackered and very cross at DH who decided one night of sleep deprivation gave him the right to moan about being tired. Honestly, you'd have thought he'd have learned by now. I'v had my mum staying who I don't think can remember having babies because her advice is duff. DD had been unsettled since going to bed at about 6.30 so at 8 my ma said, just get her back up again, I did until about 9 and she had the most unsettled night in ages.

Anyway, welcome to newbies. Cruise, I feel like I'm loosing you. Obviously I'm ovr the moon for you but so sad too. We've been here since the start three threads ago!!

Although I said I won't do CC I can't help but feel a bit envious when it works for other people. I still don't think I could stomach it and tbh I'm not sure I had the same problem as you Cruise anyway. Your DS just couldn't settle without boob but my DD does. She just wakes up for some other reason that I haven't fathomed. I do think teeth is a bit of her problem at the moment. Her front bottom two are there, first is cut and the second will be anyday. That and my DH thinks she's hungry because she settles pretty well after a bottle of ebm in the evening. I'm struggling to express enough for the evening feeds tho and it's such a faff and part of me just doesn't want to let go and give her formula but I guess I'm just going to have to do it. We're off to Scotland to see the inlaws next week so after we're back I will address it. Don't want to have to faff with sterilising stuff while I'm up there.

Anyway, sorry it's so long, missed you guys while me ma was here. Wishing you all good nights.

Hi Ginger - good to see you back but sorry for the crap night. I'm hoping for a better night tonight as at work again tomorrow - find that a full day's work is no joke on no sleep! Can doze on the bus in, though.

Cruisemum: sounds like you might have cracked it! So pleased that you went with what you really felt and it worked!

ginger - yuk for your horrid night. well, i have to say that despite my being against cc or variations of it, it does work -or at least it seems to have for now. it wasn't awful anyway and i really believe that ds desperately wanted to be able to sleep as much as i wanted him to. i think i am a better mummy to him and dd for it. i had not planned on cc but it just happened after the 4th visit upstairs in 1 hour. it is still not perfect with ds waking around 4am but am hoping to crack that one over the next few days. he settles really really easily after a kiss and touch. i feel very proud of him. i don't feel secure enough to leave this thread....yet, so i'll b here for a while yet ginger
have a good rest my cyber friends

Hi all, Ging - sorry you had such a rough night .

Well, back at work, along with Swiz - gone ok really, bit nervous about how my flexible working hours will pan out once phased return has ended, put in proposal today, I have created myself another role in order to sweeten my request, as I am not sure they will go for it, and I have covered all bases to avoid them coming back at me with problems. This proposal is mainly what I have been doing this week (shh, dont tell), oh and talking babies as everyone seems to be pregnant, and trying to access the 2000 emails waiting for me!!

On sleep note, as this is why we are here isnt it! I had a wonderful night. This means that, as I have just said it aloud and am not at work tomorrow and DP is having a lie-in, she will wake lots tonight!
She slept from 7:30pm - 2am, woke had a coughing fit for 10 mins cried for 10 mins, went back to sleep. no boob. I did not even get up to see to her! I got up for work late at 6:50am, got ready for work, had a coffee, she woke up at 7:30am! I was late for work!!!

How about that?!!!

Cruise - well done you.
I think initially I was doing a version of pu/pd, however over the last few weeks it has gradually turned into a version of CC. Like your LO, she wants to sleep and seems to know she has to at night at least now. I have not really read up at all on CC, but I usually leave her crying a little in the cot at 7:30pm and she puts herself to sleep within 10 mins now. She used to do this before 6 months old, she would make sleepy cries. If she does not settle after 10 mins I got back in and kiss her/stroke her and then leave. I never have to go back more than twice. If I do, its because she is still hungry.
Is this CC?

Cruise - I did not add a smiley for your good sleeping baby!

Pav:glad work is going OK. Good luck for the flexible hours. I'm in again tomorrow and possibly Friday.

DS still asleep...

Swiz - oh dear all week? How are you finding it? Is your LO sleeping ok? I hope you are not too knackered

hey everyone

well guess what am sitting on my bed with my computer writting this lo has been moved into another room and is sound asleep wonder how long it will last though, he woke up when i went out to get my shopping and dh decided to bring him down to play until i came back i was not amused at all, i felt like hitting him with the shopping, he rang me in tesco's to tell me to hurry up cu ds was up well seriously the fumes from my head melted the whole frozen section, ok thats an exaggeration but come on!

anyway will let u all know how it goes am not doin the pu/pd method tonight usually i just hand him a bottle i was thinkin to give him a few nights to get used to his own room or do u all think i should just go for it

on the down side i no longer have an office so will be studying at the kitchen table for now until i sort something out argh...

catch u all 2mrw have a good night with loads of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

bridget - hope you got some zzzzzzzz's!

pav - i guess it was cc that u did but, like me, it just came about. had a bit of an odd one here. ds settled beautifully at 7pm, woke at 10.40pm,wouldnt settle until he'd had boob. woke again at 3:50am. i'd said i was not offering boob again but he would not settle and screamed so i relented. dont know if i should've persevered but it felt wrong to let him cry so i didn't. feel knackered again today as he woke for day at 6.10am. wondering if i should have done cc??? am i back to square one?

Hi all

ginger and amber - sorry to hear about your diff nights - it's really tough.

Cruise - i'm so happy that things are working out for you..and so fast as well. My ds is doing pretty much the same as your LO - slept thru until 05.30 this am and went back to sleep for an hour after a feed. ( don't mind feeding him at 5.30 or 6am as I will be leaving earlier in my new job soon)

I don't really think we did cc as it's supposed to be done - a much more diluted version but it still worked pretty good. I stayed in his room a lot and did a lot of sshhing and patting in the beginning and the results are still good.

Obviously things can change when they are ill/teeth etc but I feel so much more in control now rather than ds controlling me! I would highly highly recommend a watered down version of cc - but only if you are prepared to see it through - that is the key.

cruise - just read your post - you are not back to square one but the feeds will slowly creep back in if you let them ( my friend can confirm that wit hers)

Be consistent with the no feeding before a certain time and it'll probably work out.

mornin lovely ladies
sorry to those who had crap nights. good to see you back ginger altho not, iyswim
ami - i think i'm doing something similar to you. its sort of following the 'gradual retreat' method, i kept getting stuck on a level but gritted my teeth and moved on
have been putting dd to bed awake and just placing a hand on her tum. 1st night took an hour for her to settle, 2nd night took 35? mins, 3rd night (last night) took her 10/15 mins and then she just woke for feeds at 1.15 and again at 5am.
have noticed the last couple of days that she falls asleep for naps more easily too, whereas before she needed rocking or boob, have just been holding her and she's dropped off. God, i HOPE it continues........will tackle night weaning later, dont want to rock the boat yet!
swizz and pav - well done for your return to work, muchos respect to you both
cruise, dont give up hope, there's always bloody setbacks