New SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK thread - are we still here?

[PavlovtheCatthatgottheCremeEgg]

Another thread. My didn't we get full quickly! night sleeping good. Naps...not even 5 mins so far today...

tam [ i jsut read your post and went to the thread and then read the link on thiere. What a f.....g heartless b...h that witch is. I am soooo bloody angry. wtf does she think she is. Thank God she has not got children of her own!

eep, been putting LO to bed since 7pm. he fell asleep on the breast in a heap of exhaustion after refusing an afternoon nap. then 15 mins later, wakes up screaming, repeat this sequence for an hour and a half, sigh, am waiting for the next session. i called dh and he's coming home from work at 9, so he can take over the madness!

...and we're still going!

amber poor you what time did he eventually go to sleep?
our night wasn't great either. ds went down at 7.45 and slept well until 12 but then woke at 3 again and couldn't get back to sleep. he rolled around his cot and our bed for the next couple of hours. from what i can see i think he's cutting the rest of his teeth! there are 2 molars and 2 eye teeth at the top nearly through and 2 eye teeth at the bottom breaking the skin too. very weird. he fell asleep evenutally about 5 then woke at 6.30 for the day. pretty tired today but have nothing on so just gonna chill at home with him x

sooooooo many posts haven't got time to read them all at the mo. We've spent the last 2 days in hospital. DD's whinging turned into a mega temperature and she was addmitted. Scary stuff. She's still poorly today and very clingy so I'll catch up later. So far, no obvious reason for the temp but awaiting blood test results. Poor little thing, the whole experience was very traumatic for her as she had lots of people poking, proding, pricking her. Still, hopefully she's on the mend.

oh ginger that's terrible you must have been so worried. Glad she's on the mend a little bit. Poor bubba. big hug x

Hi everyone. Fingers crossed for you ginga - scary stuff.
my little one still sleeping great after her training (although 6am is now getting up time.) I need a to be sshh/patted to sleep when I wake up now though. DP not volunteering tho

How awful Ginger - hope she gets better soon.

Amber: did you night improve at all? Sometimes we just seem to get a really really bad night for no reason at all.

Well, DS still waking a lot but did a 4-hour stretch last night - hope this is the beginning of a gradual improvement

ginger - poor dd, and poor you two too. its so scary when theyre so tiny. hope she feels better very soon.
amber, hope you had a better night than evening. they certainly like to keep us on our toes dont they? glad dh was taking a turn
tam, dont blame you resting up today. hope ds' teeth finish coming through very soon for both of you
chocolatte
swizz - for your 4 hour burst, lets hope its the shape of things to come

our night ok, bed at 8, fed at 1am then 5am, up for day at 7.15am
shes so darn cute atm tho, think she could get away with most things ....................i may live to regret saying that later

amber - uugh! poor you. hope tonight is better.
gnger - i thought you had sloped off with a 12 hour sleeper! so sorry to hear of lo's illness - terrifynig. MAkes you reevaluate things I guess.... hug her extra tight - I'm sure you are doing
chocolate - di dyou do cc? My ds stil wakes at around 5:45am every morning . Most nights he still wakes once for a little cry too. I just reassure and leave and he ususally settles quite quickly. Just wish he wouldn;t put us all through it though

Afternoon All. Its Pavlov here. Just wanted to drop in as I have been busy recently.

DD has had a couple of horrendous weeks. She basically went back several months and I was soooooo upset by it all. Although in reality it was worse, as she can now yell louder and keep herself awake for longer even when she is dog tired. Its harder to check for teeth as she cant gum my fingers anymore without taking one off.

Anyway. About 4 days ago, I looked inside her mouth, knew she had been teething as she has been dribbling insanely. Nursery had to change her top three times last week as it was got wet so quickly. I found another tooth. Her 7th tooth. On the bottom. And she is now sleeping better, mostly through the night, but still wakes up perhaps once.

Last night...she screamed and screamed and when I went in to see her, she was fast asleep !

Sorry for those with contiuing bad nights. I hope it gets better very soon.

Oh - name change - I needed to be lifted. And think some people on MN need it too. With this name, only nice supportive posts allowed!

ginger, hope dd is okay, how traumatic for you. well ds did go to sleep from about 10. until 12. then 3.30. then 6. but he had pretty long feeds so i guess there wasn't really that much sleep (for him or us) in those stretches, sigh.
my friend and i tried to babysit each other's LO's in the waiting area while the other had a 1/2 hour massage. it was a disaster!! My DS had a complete breakdown and i had to abandon massage and i couldn't even calm him down he was so worked up. aiiii. poor little man. i guess he's not used to being without me at all.

pav - love the new name! lifts me no end!!

pav love the new name too. amber don't worry ds used to do that at that age and he's so easy going. separation anxiety is totally normal and infact child psychologists would say it's actually healthier than being unconcerned as to who is looking after you ifswim.
ds teething like crazy today. has a runny nose (although he could have inherited my cold ) and keep grinding his jaw from side to side. he's also had 3 naps which is virtually unheard of. Think we're prob in for another crap night but will go with the pre-emptive strike that is medised!

Hi, sorry - I have a habit of posting just before going out!

Cruisemum - no we didnt do CC. We stayed with her the whole time. Picked her up when it got vbad but shh/pat type of thing. DP was sent in for a few days to do it as I was inconsolable the first time. boo hoo.

Hope this gives other hope. Our week went like this:
day 1: b/fed at 12am and 3.30am then 1.5 hours v.angry crying at 5am when I didnt feed.

1. slept 8pm till 7.30am (dps first ever night on duty - the sod didnt hav to do a thing.)
2. 1 hr 20mins crying
3. 45 mins crying (not crying for all that time.)
4. slept through 7.30pm - 6.45am
5. woke once at 1.30am and cried for 5mins
6. Slept 7.30pm - 6am

I don't think we are outtathewoods yet but I'm amazed at the results. She feeds much better in the mornings now (not surprising as she's been starved in the night!)

Honestly dont mean to gloat! Hope this is helpful rather than boastful! I was at the end of my tether.

Ginger, sorry your LO is so sick and hope she's getting better. I guess it makes all other worries look trivial when they're sick!

Amber, thanks for the feeding advice - will be useful if I can ever work up the guts to try cc. I am getting close, though, as have been feeling low and desperate all week . Hope you have a better night tonight.

Chocolate, your post does give hope but i'm not so clear what you did - sorry to be so thick - I blame the sleep deprivation . Did you do sort of cc but you were there? How long did that take to work? Did you do it every time your LO woke? Sorry for all the questions. I would feel 'kinder' to let my dd cry when i'm there. She does cry a lot in the middle of the night when i refuse to feed her (i'm down to two night feeds) but it doesn't seem to be getting any better (sigh). I can't resist cuddling her during the night if she cries so she basically gets cuddled to sleep. Do you think that's the problem?

Cruise, glad all is still (relatively) smooth . I can see why you want ds to drop the middle of the night crying though!

lilysma - sorry I havent explained very well! I put it off for ages too but I think you do have to feel pretty desperate to have the determination to do it.

We stayed with her all the time that she was crying just saying shussssh, shuuusssh and gently patting her on the back (she lies on her side or stomach and wont lie on her back now.) It was very hard and I didnt think she was ever going to stop crying. I tried giving water from a cup the first time but she nearly choked as she gulped it down and was angry at the time. (I think this might have helped if she wasnt so upset though.)The first night I fed her when she woke twice (12am and 3ish) but when she woke at 5am I didnt feed her. This is the first time she has ever went back to sleep in the night without a feed. We did have a bottle of formula on stand by but she wouldnt drink it (never had formula as drink). We felt better having it though.

We only picked her up when she cried really hard and put her back down asap, usually picking her up again straight away. What surprised me is that she dropped the 12am feed straight away and we were only having to do this once per night. (although she cried so long the first 2 nights that she was due another wake up by then.) I would say it took 3 nights ish. I think we will have more wakeups but getting there.

Does this explain it any better? Hope it helps.

Forgot to say that after the first night DP was in with her and I stayed out. On the advice of mumsnetters!

Hope everyone has a good night x

mornin all! hope everyone had good nights
ours was good, woke once at 3am for massive feed then nothing til 6.55am.
i can definitely live with that!
amber, i agree with tam re. the separation anxiety, perfectly normal. dd spent most of that period attached to my hip. she will stay with others now, although obviously prefers to be with mama!

morning all. ds now has my cold so we co-slept all last night and gave him some medised so he could get some sleep. He can't breath with his dummy in but can't get over to sleep without his dummy so you can see the problem. anyway it had the potential to be a nightmare night but was actually ok. he shared my pillow all night and only woke once at 3 for his bottle so feel quite rested today bizarrely. Have been cleaning and tidying up since 8 this morning for a viewing at 10 and they phoned at 9.30 to cancel! the joys of selling. at least it's sunny

tibsy forgot to say yay for your good night x

hi tam and tibs - glad you both had good nights.

Tam - hav you tried one of those sucky-out-th-snot things? I found once after my LO had a cold but the little tearaway has had the audacity to stay well since I got it so not had the chance to try it out I have just realised how sad I am looking back at that. wince. Maybe its time I went bak to work!

I fed my little angel at 5.30am as she had slept till then. Dya think I should be doing that anyone? It was 6am yesterday so I'm wondering if I'm beginning to sabotage all our sleep efforts??? I AM SO WEAK - EVEN WITH SLEEP! dohdohdoh. Seems mean to starve her for the sake of another coupla hours?

i admit its kinda nice to be with them all the time. never gets lonely! just can't get much done - but i'm ok with that. actually in retrospect i think he had a bit of digestive discomfort yesterday as was very upset, but one huge nappy later and he was a different person!

well i think we are having ok nights, but LO is insisting that 5am is a good time to wake up and stay up for 2 hours and then go back to sleep at 7am. its not quite working for me. did anyone have success with blackout blinds? i assume its his internal clock though. i need to wind back that darn internal clock a bit.
so last night he woke and fed at 11, 2.30 and 5. i would be quite pleased if he had then gone back to sleep. here's hoping for that bit of the night back soon. he's been having absolutely MASSIVE feeds around 2 or 3, I wonder whats happening there, its quite unusual. growth spurt? he he . we might go for a weighing this afternoon and see!

maber - ditto the e3arly wakings. ds seems to want to wake around 5:45 am for the day. i don't feel quit the same joie de vivre about that time of the day but not much i can do it seems. I hvae adjusted his bedtime to 8ish (or as near as I can stretch it out) but it makes no difference . Still such an improvement overall that I have to forgive him that little blip!