So sick of being so angry all the time because I'm so fucking tired

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2yo DD is a shit sleeper. I never know what the night will bring but guarantee at some point to at least be mutterin under my breath all kinds Of obscenities and every single fucking morning I spend the first 2hours trying to get my sleep deprivation induced rage under control.

I am turning into a horrible mother seriously regretting having Children at all because I'm so fucking tired. She's bloody awesome during the day, cute and funny and clever and hilarious and wonderful to have around, she doesn't even tantrum that much even though she's got a strong will - but I m actively starting to hate her at night

DSsleot through from 8months and at 5 is still a good sleeper - why the fuck won't DD be the same?!

Ives just been up again to DS3, too. THIS was the 'quick one', for his NEOCATE. The ones after this are the really bad ones, where he just won't go back to sleep. I've resorted to sticking the telly on quietly in my room, snuggling with him and dozing whilst he watches whatever garbage is showing on whichever children's channel is broadcasting at 3.30am...

Out of 4 DC's, one, just ONE has been a good (read so good I used to think he was dead after the first two were such crap sleepers) sleeper.

15yo DD slept through the night after her 4th Birthday. DS2 was born just 4 weeks later and never fucking slept. He is 11, nearly 12 now, and has never slept right through the night. DS2? 7am - 7pm, from 7 weeks old, I had to wake him to feed as he was bf, but after bf, he never woke. He lulled me into a false sense of security, and when I had DS3, I figured that as he had the same Dad as DS2 (DD and DS1 have different fathers), he would be a good sleeper.

Um, no. Fucking no.

So basically the last time I slept through the night is almost 16 years ago.

What is this mythical "full night's sleep" you are talking about? Hell has frozen over, if you believe the newspaper reports today, so WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FULL NIGHT'S SLEEP??!!

Both dcs were shit sleepers, two hours in a row was a good night for us. With DS2 we got referred to a sleep clinic by HV. It gave me the confidence to just leave DS2 to scream it out. It took 3 nights of hell, and then he started sleepimng through. My thoughts were it was better for him to have three bad nights than a mother who was constantly a grumpy cow.

Anyway if it is a tad ironic as I now work nights, and never sleep!

I sacrifice my next nights sleep to the OhGod of Insomnia for you. Please don't click express delivery.

Eek - just want to say that obviously work work for everyone please don't think I am a smug survivor!

That was at CouthyMow

God I'm so sorry everyone, I think I actually have it better than most though to be honest I can't really describe what our nights are like because they're always different.

Now she's refusing to even go to bed. It's the unpredictability that also screws with me. I'm 8hours behind you all so will keep you company as you wake throughout the night.

Thanks again though - misery loves company (I joined that sleep thread, but everyone seemed to have babies and then they all starting sleeping through )

Please listen to to help you through the crap

I feel your pain. Ds is 7 and dd is almost 3.5.

Ds didn't sleep through until he was 3, dd is 3y9m younger than him. When she was born until she was about 18 months she was the incredible sleeping baby.

Now she wakes me sometimes 5/6 times a night and ds is up at 6. I just cannot sleep until 1am usually because I'm so overtired and stressed out. I hate it. I feel like I am always firefighting and never achieving anything. I'm also fiercely protective of the little sleep I do get and if the kids are ill I panic how I will cope with even less sleep. In fact, I panic quite a lot.

Oh yeah and dh and I used to be so close, so supportive of each other. Now we just moan at each other on a loop. That breaks my heart.

Don't be sorry. It's nice to know that others are in the same boat.

Whenever i mention sleep issues to my mum friends they say well mine sleeps through/ i never had that problem. Fuckers. Why would you think that was an appropriate response. I darent mention the rage to them.

I did go to the hv for advice which is starting work on dd but she is so resistant to it. Epic tantrums at bedtime and in the night if we won't let her co sleep. Christmas has fucked our routine. As for ds i am supposed to be teaching him to self settle by placing him in his cot sleepy but awake. But dd's tantrums are sabotaging my efforts.

20 month old up and wriggling for hours last night despite taking him in beside me. Had about a million feeds or so it seemed and was still shouting mummy right beside my head. Not had a night this bad for a while but he's never really slept through.

DH suggested I just relax a bit as clearly DS is picking up on me being stressed. You'd be bloody stressed too when you know you have to get up for work in a couple of hours!

Also snappy at DH and my 4yo.. Just too tired

I had typed a post at 2 this morning when DS4 had fallen asleep on my lap when I heard DS3 moaning upstairs. So in a quiet panic I closed the laptop down and crept upstairs. DS4 did go down first time in his cot a miracleand DS3 didn't wake up. Just wanted a cuddle. So 2.15 to 5.45 was my full night sleep.

DS3 (nearly 3yo) and DS4 (just 1yo) are terrible sleepers. And it is hell if they're awake at the same time. I have to just let them play down here because they hype each other up, while I catch up on EastEnders and try not to fall asleep. No point in fighting it. DS3 used to sleep through 12-14 hours a night. DS4, not so long, but at least 6 hours. Luckily, DS1 and 2 sleep through, although DS2 creeps into our bed at 6am. All four boys went through some non-sleeping stage, so I am permanently tired. And because I'm so knackered my house doesn't ever get sorted, any fitness plans never get done and I spend most of my time just daydreaming.

But I do sometimes get bursts of rages - I told DS1 that if he didn't pick up his Lego after the twentieth billion time I would stamp on it all and hoover it up. His face was like this then this . I went and cried in the kitchen. I can't see and end to this at the moment.

I still remember how this feels.

Dd was a shocking sleeper, she would be up at least 6 times a night. When she was 13 months, ds1 was born.

I kept thinking, he will sleep. Cos you can't have 2 terrible sleepers can you?

Turns out yes, you can. Ds1 would only sleep in 40 minute stretches. Although at 5am he would sleep for 2.5 hours. The only trouble was, dd was up for the day at 4.55am. This went on until dd was 3.2. I wanted to kill everyone.

Especially people who said "I know how you feel"

No. No you don't. Because your children sleep

Getting up because they are ill once in a blue moon is not the same thing ffs

Urgh it's torture isn't it? I'm planning on a tea then bed evening tonight, have to get some hours sleep in.

And yy to competitive tiredness, really have to stop myself stabbing snapping at dp when he does a massive yawn and says he's shattered.

Ah well, another day starting at 5 after the last one ended at 1. Good luck zombie mums...this too shall pass..repeat

DD is 7 and a shocking sleeper.

Early nights do help..if you cant have a lie in have a reverse one

Although dD hasn't been settling until after 10 recently.

Also sick of being so tired here.

DS is 4, and only slept well since last January (before that, he was up every 45 minutes to 2 hours, for 3.3 years). Which, coincidentally, is when 18 month old DD stopped sleeping (she slept amazingly from birth to 6 months, then started teething. and don't we all bloody know it).

Plus I get severe insomnia in pregnancy, so I basically haven't had a full night's sleep in 5 years.

It is taking its toll, I am a snappy miserable fat bitch, and I just want to curl up in a ball and cry. with lots of cake.

For example, last night I went to bed at 9.30 to get an early night. DD woke at 10, fed until gone 11. DH went to sleep at 10 btw. DD up at 2, quick cuddle back to sleep. DD up at 4, feed, bite, I stop feeding her, so she refuses to sleep, then starts screaming at 5. this wakes DH and DS up, DS won't go back to sleep, DH furious because he is tired, so I have come downstairs with 2 small children who are both stropping with tiredness. I have to get DS to school in an hour, DD will sleep on the school run then be a furious tired mess all day, and DH will rise in half an hour, yawning, and I will have to try my hardest not to lamp him when he says he is tired.

I need to lose weight, too, but the EFFORT, fuck that shit.

Oh, and DC have trashed the house I tidied last night once they were in bed. So it was tidy overnight when nobody could appreciate it. What a total waste of fucking time.

I feel your pain too! My DD 2.6 has never slept well, I can count on one hand how many times she's slept all night without waking. I feel like iv never ever court up with my sleep since my pregnancy 3 years ago! I'm not pregnant again and finding it hard to cope with my tiredness. I really hope the new baby sleeps better!

Oh god. Napping on the school run also gives me rage as ds wakes the very moment we get back into the house and i don't get any respite for the rest of the day. Argh.

There's a couple of empty office units at work. I always walk past them and fantasise about curling up in them and sleeping.

Part of me is pushing the dc's at school so they can get to Uni in 12yrs and I can sleep again. Isn't that pathetic .

I work in a hospital... Today I had to pop in to sort out my dreaded return to work.
I actually eyed up the beds like I used to eye up men. I was envious of the women lying in those beds...

My Mum claims I was the worst sleeper ever, apparently no more than 20 mins in a row until I was 5 .

After having DS, who has always been a brilliant sleeper, I think I'm getting a bit of pay back from DD. She's kept me awake from 16wks pregnant with SPD and pregnancy insomnia, now at 9mo is still up several times a night.

I get the rage, but also feel drained and stupid, I think my IQ has dropped to about 2. It's embarrassing and I have no idea how I'm going to do my job when I finish mat leave. Maybe they'll just let me make the tea or something (I'd even get that wrong )

My 4.3 year old was sleeping pretty well by the time he was 2. Then I got pregnant and DS2 was born when he was 2.7. Due to my pregnancy insomnia, I last had a full nights sleep over 2 years ago.

I'm so tired today it hurts!

DH is pretty fed up of my grumpy and snappy mood and I don't like it. :(

piece, bizarrely I can still (mostly) do my job ok. I just struggle to finish sentences sometimes. . .it's worse when I'm with the DC and trying to keep an eye on them. At work no one is going to forget to go for a wee or scale the furniture. I hope!