No Cry Sleep Solution - anyone want to join in, or tips from your experiences with it?

[TurtlesMama]

My 9 mo dd is a bad sleeper. We had a brief lovely period of all night sleep between 3 & 4 mths and it has been downhill from there! She does self settle occasionally but otherwise its cuddles/rocking and she will only fall asleep with me or dh in the room. I refuse to try cc/CIO and having spent a miserable 10 days doing pupd from the baby whisperer (cue a lot of screaming from her for hours at night and a very miserable mama too) have decided to try the no cry sleep solution by Elizabeth Pantley. Briefly dabbled in it when she was tiny to help with naps, but this time I'm doing it properly, sleep logs, sleep plan and all

Is there anyone else out there also interested in giving it a go? It would be great to have a support thread going - all my RL baby friends allegedly have babies who sleep lol so a bit of help would make all the difference!

Thanks :-)

Crashing back in...was here in October which seems like forever ago now!

Can someone talk to me about the Pantley pull off please? Ds is 6 months now, ebf (fed to sleep,....sigh), accidental co sleeper after 4 month regression and illness. He needs to go in his own cot/room & stop feeding to sleep as when I return to work I won't always be there at bedtime.

So, i'm doing the gentle removal just before he nods off which is some progress as he wanted my nipple in his mouth all night a few weeks ago! How do I advance this? I'm not sure pantley covers it well. If I try and unlatch him any earlier he complains so I reinsert, count about 10 of his breaths and try again. Rinse & repeat at will, its a battle of wits as to who blinks first. The longer it goes on the less sleepy he is and I end up feeding him properly and starting from scratch again my his record is 90 mins before he got so annoyed he yelled until he was sick and I caved in.

Any success stories out there to keep me going? How long did it take? Or any advice? TIA

Shameless bump for PPO advice.....pretty please....anyone?

Hi cakebaby
Sorry for brief response, feeding and entertaining!
I would try a more gradual approach. He probably still needs a feed at his age. So I would try to pick a midway point between where he was happy with coming off the breast and where you're trying right now IYSWIM. It might be a very small difference. And just keep trying with each bedtime feed. It can take a while. If he's upset then briefly try to keep him off with cuddling etc, but not so long that he gets upset. Put him back on the breast, let him settle to just past the point you were trying and try again. It's a bit like "don't offer- don't refuse.
Good luck. Sorry. Got to dash, being rubbish mum at playing with ds.

Thank you amanda I'll give it a go! Really inconsistent results so far

We have had very little success with PPO either cakebaby. I've been doing it for months. It's the main reason NCSS doesn't work for us, I've never got past this basic step. And even if I do manage to prise DD off the boob I then have to put her down without her immediately waking and screaming her head off. I've just failed at that this evening like I do about 70% of the time, so back on the boob we go...

I'd love to join. My 4 mo dd only goes an hour or two at a time at night she is bf to sleep and wakes for snacks/comfort alot. She fights her naps and I usually end up letting her sleep on me. So my house is a tip and I'm spending most of the day and night in my bedroom (awake). I've just ordered the book as this arrangement is becoming unmanageable. Id like her to go in her cot and sleep a little more and my husband, who's been working away for the past 2 months is coming home, think he might want some space in our bed lol. I'll keep watching this thread with interest, hope it works. I'm a massive wimp and usually take the path of least resistance with her because she's still so tiny. So it better really be a 'no cry' solution or I won't be able to do it

Del this thread has been quite for a while after an initial hot following.... maybe NCSS does work & they've all got great sleepers now

Not trying to poach you from this thread but you are welcome to come and join us on the sleep regression thread (in sleep, near top probably as an active thread most days)...we've all been/still are there with the 4 month (and older) frequent wakers. No answers, but lots of support and ideas from fellow sufferers!

Will do thanks. It's nice to hear about other babies that wake frequently (not nice for their Mummies though). My friend's babies all do at least one decent stint at night. I'm starting to think its something I'm doing/not doing that's causing it