Urgently need to contact a moderator

[Palace13]

I have serious concerns for another member's safety.
Need to speak privately to someone about this.
I believe the person requires an urgent police welfare check.

[NoCauseRebel]

And the poster where zombie drove out in the middle of the night was a troll. Not on that occasion, but on numerous others and they were ultimately banned for trolling and were a deeply unpleasant individual as it was.

Zombie did what she did from the right place, but those threads were very much discussed etc etc and it was very much echoed that zombie had been incredibly unwise to act in the way that she had.

[EntirelyAnonymised]

Absolutely, norebel, I think it is a high risk strategy and very very unwise. I’m on the same side as you. By keeping these sorts of threads on MN, it risks placing vulnerable posters who just want to help in a dangerous or disadvantaged position (emotionally, financially or physically). Let’s not even get started on the vultures who live for the drama.

[PinkCrayon]

I saw the thread and I thought it needed outside intervention to be honest.
I can understand others views on being able to post anonymously without repercussions its a really tricky one.

[EntirelyAnonymised]

Tigek

Bloke broke up with his gf and was suicidal
Lots of posts from MNers suggesting he seek RL help as well as posts offering conversation.
Poster not really taking MNers posts on board and continues to sound troubled (could be because they are so deep in the hole, or could be for other reasons)
Poster then posts that police turned up to their place of work to check their welfare. Poster is cross.
Poster then strongly encourages MNers to post/PM him off board
MN suspend his PMs
He gets very upset and despite MNers trying to engage him in conversation on board, he just keeps repeating that he wants to MNto reinstate his PMs and for posters to check their PMs and to PM him.

MN post repeated generic warnings on the thread and eventually delete.

All in all, a bit of a clusterfuck.

I suspect this post will go.

[anniehm]

If someone posts on here that they are considering harm to themselves or others then yes it should be reported to the authorities. It may be the only way to stop something tragic. Drs and counsellors can break confidence for similar reasons - I have people call me at work asking for help in confidence and yes I would call the police/social services if I was worried as I put safety above the embarrassment of a visit from the police that turns out to be a false alarm.

[EntirelyAnonymised]

‘Drs and counsellors can do the same’


But mumsnet are not doctors or counsellors. They are hosts/moderators/whatevers of a general internet chat board.

[NunoGoncalves]

Ah, so we were trolled again lol. I suspect someone trying to get pm's of addresses and names of sympathetic idiotic women

He seemed in a very bad place and wanted to use PMs because he was upset about losing anonymity after the police showed up.

I don't think there's much use speculating about his motivations or the responses of other users when you didn't even see the thread, tbh.

[AhhhHereItGoes]

I would be more in support of MN getting involved inthreada where vulnerable women are frightened to leave their violent husband.

As horrible as suicidal thoughts and actions are (I have had them) it's the persons own safety and therefore decision. Such a terrible shamwbut hopefully they will make the right choice.

Poor kids with violent parents don't get the choice.

[Redglitter]

I'm very sceptical about the Police turning up at his work because of anything MNHQ did. Could it be more like someone in rl was worried about him.

AFAIK MNHQ Don't have our addresses & the Police wouldn't be able to trace him based on his posts. Even if MNHQ gave them his IP address it's not going to give his exact address.

We've had calls like this before at work - Police control room - and there has been absolutely nothing we can do.

[AhhhHereItGoes]

Like many posters have said though, I hope they can private message a suicidal poster and gauge whether they feel they need to intervene. It's hardly seeing oneposter say user126365364 is suicidal, please call the police. It willlikely be from a thread the poster themselves submitted.

[GucciDay]

'Some women are thick as two six inch blocks.'



Well @Tigek aren't you a charmer. 'idiotic' women too. You need some counselling for that rampant misogyny you've got there.

[pootyisabadcat]

Fucking hell! Between this level of invasion of privacy and people who post 'anti-trans' stuff being harassed by the cops it's becoming a scary place.

[ReapersHowler]

@Tigek maybe you need an appointment with your own local mental health expert or at least counselling for that serious misogyny.

[PurpleDaisies]

To be honest, I'm inclined to think the real breach of trust here was the police. There was no need for anyone else at the person's workplace to know what was going on, surely? That was terribly indiscreet.

It’s very, very hard to believe that the police would have behaved like that.

[NoCauseRebel]

So the bloke posts and then claims that police have turned up at his place of work so could posters please pm him off board? Really?

Sounds dubious as hell to me, and the reality is that no-one can perceive how someone feels from the words they write on a screen. Anyone can write anything and posters will fall for it hook line and sinker.

I think it would be useful if mn confirmed whether they did actually notify the police in this situation because if they didn’t then the answer is obvious isn’t it?

What did the deletion message say?

[BadPennyNoBiscuit]

I'm curious why MN work with The Samaritans but not The Freedom Program.

[PurpleDaisies]

Where havd mn confirmed that they contacted the police?

[NCWednesday]

*Redglitter
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Not strictly true about IP addresses. It depends on the company. Some IPs can be resolved to a specific address. If that address is a company then normally that companies IT systems can resolve to a terminal or sign in.