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TransAgenda BullShit: The I am Spartacus Thread

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OscarDeLaYenta · 25/08/2016 19:17

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cexuwaleozbu · 27/08/2016 20:39

I was adapting his "they aren't women's clothes, they are my clothes I bought them" stance which I think is valid.

For clarity, my use of this specific quote should not be taken as any implication that I agree with any other specific Eddie Izzard statements.

airforsharon · 27/08/2016 20:50

I've been a big fan of Eddie Izzard for years and i'm very suspicious of his recent claims to be transgender.

I've had it up to the back teeth with all the labelling.....why can't we all just be? Respect our differences, respect each others humanity, allow our children to express themselves however they want and grow into the unique, strong, compassionate adults we all surely want them to be? Sod the boxes, labels, pigeon holing and stereotyping. And sod telling people who they should fancy, how they should dress, how they should feel.

I was born in 1969 and remember the often none too subtle misogyny that was very much part of mainstream culture during the 70s. The misogyny women are facing now from the trans activists is in another league and something I honestly thought (obviously naively) would never happen. I thought we'd evolved Hmm I am angry and sickened and hell will freeze over before I am bullied and threatened into accepting their 'truths' which are scientifically incorrect and driven by a nasty, misogynistic agenda.

CalmItKermitt · 27/08/2016 20:55

Eddie Izzard is turning out to be a bit of a twat.

airforsharon · 27/08/2016 20:57

I've just had a thought - lesbians have been really copping it from the TA's for not wanting to have sex with someone with a penis. What is the TA's stance on a gay man, stating he wouldn't want to have sex with a woman with a vagina? Far fewer FtM than MtF actually transition, so it could arise as an issue. Would that be considered transphobic too?

IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat · 27/08/2016 20:57

Eddie Izzard is a wanker. Sorry.

airforsharon · 27/08/2016 21:00

sorry, I supposed that should be 'man with a vagina'.

Lightbulbon · 27/08/2016 21:07

I am Spartacus.

I am a person with 2 X chromosomes.

Why should I be forced to spend the rest of eternity saying "people with 2 X chromosomes" when a much more convenient term, "woman" exists?

DaddaGreen · 27/08/2016 21:15

I am Dadda Green.

A man cannot become a woman no matter what hormone and surgery he has. A woman cannot become a man no matter what hormone and surgery she has.

A man does not become any less of a man no matter how feminine he acts, no matter what he wears nor whoever he falls in love with. A woman does not become any less of a man no matter how butch she acts, no matter what she wears nor whoever she falls in love with.

I do not want my children to grow up in a world where gender stereotypes & homophobia have found new ways to assert themselves.

Waltermittythesequel · 27/08/2016 21:24

Eddie Izzard is an attention whore. Simple as.

SpeckledyBanana · 27/08/2016 21:27

I am Spartacus.

And I'm a woman, not a ciswoman thankyouverymuch.

Fedupofallthemud · 27/08/2016 21:34

I'm fed up
Thank you for this thread
The emperor is not wearing any clothes
I can't compete with the eloquent and detailed posts on here but I'm with you. Peak trans here and now.
I am Spartacus

derxa · 27/08/2016 21:48

Eddie Izzard is a wanker x1000 As for his 'political campaigning' in Scotland Fuck off

Mytholmroyd · 27/08/2016 22:06

I am SPARTACUS!

I am a scientist and will not be cowed into denying scientific fact. I agree with others on this thread who write so eloquently and I too am aghast at the trans agenda - it is extremely harmful to women - nobody with a penis should be in a women's prison, refuge, sporting event etc etc

Men cannot become biologically female and women cannot become biologically male.Feelings have nothing to do with it.

To state otherwise is a lie. I stand for freedom of speech and scientific truth.

WhatTheActualFugg · 27/08/2016 22:10

I stand for freedom of speech and scientific truth.

A worthwhile motto.

OfCrayonBorn · 27/08/2016 22:19

air that was put to Owen Jones on Twitter, after he criticised feminists for not believing that transwomen are women ... he failed to see their point, and accused them of being homophobic just for asking Hmm

airforsharon · 27/08/2016 22:26

ofCrayon thanks for that. I saw Owen Jones in action on C4 news one evening, calling a journalist homophobic (another issue) - the journalist wasn't being homophobic and kept trying to say they actually agreed with OJ. So I can easily believe he would fall back on that accusation. Good way of shutting down a discussion isn't it?

PinkyOfPie · 27/08/2016 22:33

Owen Jones is a spoilt jumped up entitled little twat who completely failed to see the irony of his outrage at being asked when he last performed cunnilingus.

He also managed to make the Orlando killings all about him in a cringey Sky News interview.

Total wankbadger

FeedMeAndTellMeImPretty · 27/08/2016 22:38

cex nailed it:

The accurate term in our language as it currently stands for a person with a penis who wants to have sex with people who have a vagina by putting their penis into that vagina is heterosexual man. If that doesn't work for you then by all means create a new term - language is constantly evolving and new words are created all the time but the words woman/women and lesbian are not appropriate to be purloined for this use as they are already in regular frequent use for meaning something else.

PenelopeTitsdrop · 27/08/2016 22:38

Transwomen TRAs seem determined to perform a parody of the male stereotype of women. It is this which so clearly demonstrates that they are male.

If a male wishes to perform/identify as a woman, then he has a right to do so. But he CANNOT demand that women call his performance "being a real woman".

If some males wish to live permanently within this role, then they should realise that they do not belong in female only spaces. It is up to other men to accommodate him, not the women he is emulating.

Pantomime horses do not belong in a stable.

PenelopeTitsdrop · 27/08/2016 22:39

And I Am Spartacus.

FloraFox · 27/08/2016 22:45

A woman who detransitioned told me there are a lot of gay men who want to have sex with "gay" FTTs but they will only penetrate them or take blow jobs and will not touch their vaginas / vulvas. I'm repeating what she told me, no direct knowledge of this.

StrangeLookingParasite · 27/08/2016 22:56

I am StrangeLookingSpartacus (or SpartacusLookingParasite).

I've always been crap at conforming to the stereotypical 'feminine' behaviours. This does not make me a man.
There are no lesbians with penises. No penis can be female.

FirstShinyRobe · 27/08/2016 23:09

This thread actually brings a little tear to my eye. For so long, feminists on MN have been vilified for standing up for women in the face of the take over by trans activists and their allies of other feminist spaces on the Internet. That this thread exists is testament to the ground work that was done on here years ago and the consciousness raising that is so powerful for women and has filtered through to today.

Dittany, I hope you see this thread. You were so right. I salute you and miss you.

And I am Spartacus.

Ma1low51 · 27/08/2016 23:22

All together now: "There is no such thing as a lesbian with a penis".

PacificDogwod · 27/08/2016 23:31

I've had it up to the back teeth with all the labelling.....why can't we all just be?

Hear, hear!

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