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MNHQ - are they disabilist?

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Sixweekstowait · 09/06/2016 20:36

Having had a thread deleted with no communication with me until I asked ( but then I'm disabled and so invisible) , having read on the second class citizen thread of examples of disabilist language which HQ defend, I am beginning to think they are. I now think they were really really wrong to delete my thread and that they have NO IDEA about the everyday discrimination that people with disabilities face in even trying to travel to work, care even less and I would like to know how many of their staff are disabled?

OP posts:
Pagwatch · 10/06/2016 10:47

No worries Walter

Grin
Waltermittythesequel · 10/06/2016 10:54

Grin jealous!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/06/2016 11:02

Think I will crawl into a hole for a bit.

Pag can do the educating so much better than me.

I wanted best for OP but hard to feel welcome somewhere where you spend days being called a twat, deranged, a poor parent (without resorting to any PAs) and all sorts with only maybe 1 person defending you. Feels like tacit acceptance that i am that.

So. Sorry if I am.

I stand by that your posts to OP were unfair Walter.

Enjoy a nice genteel MN.

AristotleTheGreat · 10/06/2016 11:04

Bourdie I hadn't seen your initial thread but thanks a lot for this one.

I do think that people on MN have an issue with people being sarcastic and upset/ angry. I've been there too. Not about been disabled but about my own chronic health issues.

And I have found the same thing happening than I see on here. People who are well getting upset when they are told haven't a clue for commenting with their able bodied/good health hat on and with no real insight of what it means to be ill or disabled.

*P

Pagwatch · 10/06/2016 11:08

Fanjo

I have plenty of occasions where I am just angry, where I feel upset and got at and respond.
I do that all the time and I'm make no apology about that.

There are days and moments where I can step back and be more analytical and it feels less raw.

We are not a hive of people and that ebb and flow of emotions is appropriate.
You don't need to take a step back, change your approach or be less angry and express yourself differently.
But similarly I don't need to support other parents dealing with SN or express myself to suit others. That would be ridiculous.

So whatever the thing about being 'genteel' is all about, I'm just posting as I feel. My posts are not meant to impact or reflect in any way upon yours.

AristotleTheGreat · 10/06/2016 11:10

Pag you won't recognise my 'name' (I change it too often) but thanks s lot to have once again explained things in such a calm way
I have seen you again and again stepping in and explaining always in such a measured way.
Thanks for that because these are explaining so well what I live and I can't always explain (even if my own issues aren't about disability)
It also explains so much about how others are living and the issues faced by disabled people
Thanks b

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/06/2016 11:13

I often post in a non angry manner in fact

Sorry. .my genteel was actually meant to be a compliment and not a dig at you.

I did feel a bit embarrassed that someone was going at me hard and then got offered toast all cosily but that's my issue. I wasn't going at you.

I guess I don't feel I should change my approach. As someone just said there is an issue with being angry. Rather than people being flamed for being angry I guess I'd rather more people got angry and tried to stop others being dicks I guess.

Instead of flaming the people who get angry.

Anyway hope that makes my point more clearly.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/06/2016 11:14

I post many posts a day which are just trying to help people and not being angry.

I get angry maybe a couple of times a year yet that's remembered and I'm some sort of angry person.

I am just not suited to MN methinks.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/06/2016 11:15

And you are. Which is a compliment and not a dig. Straight up.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/06/2016 11:17

I meant genteel as in without me..Mrs angry. Which seems to be what is better suited to MN. Not a dig. OK anyway whatever. I know what I meant

Somerville · 10/06/2016 11:20

I just came into site stuff to nag MNHQ about something disablist and saw this thread already up and running. So seems sensible to add my complaint here as it feeds into the bigger picture of the MNHQ approach/attitude to disability issues.

Two days ago there was a non-member request for 'opinions on ADHD children' (yes I know, I KNOW) which took about 48 hours, and some of you long-timers coming on and shouting loud, to be deleted. Now the fuckwit OP from Wall to Wall Television has just reposted. Presumably she's paid the £50 or however much it is, again - I can't see why it has been allowed and it's pissing me off.

here

Jasonandyawegunorts · 10/06/2016 11:25

To be absolutely fair to MNHQ I've found them to be extremely fair and understanding to me, and more so than they probably should have.

I reported that thread too Somerville.

Pagwatch · 10/06/2016 11:31

Fanjo

I think you should just post as you feel. I'm on a lot of the same threads as you and we are often arguing the same point so I don't see you as angrier than me or less supportive across the board.
I post as I feel and was called a hyena and a bully and various other things. None of us are one thing.
I don't tend to wade in a defend people, I don't assume they need it but I do report. I am probably guilty of focusing too much on the debate.

I would not have felt the need to defend you against Walter because it did not look for a moment like you needed it.

Pagwatch · 10/06/2016 11:32

X -post

That fucking ADHD thread.

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND FUCK OFF DOUCHEBAG

Samcro · 10/06/2016 11:37

fanjo don't feel down. tbh I think you have been great, you have stood your ground even whilst being goaded and that is not easy.
have someCake

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/06/2016 11:39

Thanks pag. I guess i do need it.
I just assume if no one objects to me being called a twat everyone must think it. A thread I posted on earlier today has made me a bit sensitive too I think. And am sick of being told I always do stuff and all that SN brigade type nonsense.

God this is like a therapy session sorry.

A break is needed for a wee while anyway.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/06/2016 11:39

A personal and sensitive thread not a flame war. If you see it you will see what I mean lol

Jasonandyawegunorts · 10/06/2016 11:40

FWIW fanjo, i missed the thread you are tlaking about but i do like your posts. You tend to hold your ground and be the voice of reason, which isn't easy with some of the goady as fuck threads on here.

Samcro · 10/06/2016 11:40

at least you have a child. today I was told I didnt lol

MrsJayy · 10/06/2016 11:42

Jesus wept ADHD children why is that allowed let's just put folk in cages so we can poke them for entertainment those ADHD people and their funny ways

Pagwatch · 10/06/2016 11:42

Ahhh, that makes sense Fanjo

TBH if someone calls me a fucking twat I just assume I posted something quite good. I have a self preservation and thoroughly deluded posting approach

Grin
MrsJayy · 10/06/2016 11:43

Sorry that was a tangent Blush

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/06/2016 11:44

Dammit I don't want a break now. You are all lovely . And I wasn't aiming for a pity party with my flounce. I was upset BlushFlowers

Jasonandyawegunorts · 10/06/2016 11:45

i think a cage might not be such a bad idea I know My mum would have liked on when i was younger.

Pagwatch · 10/06/2016 11:46

Seriously, I think measuring how you are viewed by people sticking up for you is not a good idea.

For one thing - this happens

Fanj - I think you are being completely insensitive
Pag - your attitude is crap
Random poster - that's an awful point of view

Poster - but I think that and you are being fucking rude and a bully Fanjo you twat.

Pag - leave Fanj alone
Random poster - you should apologise

Poster - fucking SN brigade.....