MNHQ - are they disabilist?

[Sixweekstowait]

Having had a thread deleted with no communication with me until I asked ( but then I'm disabled and so invisible) , having read on the second class citizen thread of examples of disabilist language which HQ defend, I am beginning to think they are. I now think they were really really wrong to delete my thread and that they have NO IDEA about the everyday discrimination that people with disabilities face in even trying to travel to work, care even less and I would like to know how many of their staff are disabled?

[BishopBrennansArse]

Pag's experience on those boards is far from unique. I know me and at least 3 others have had the same issue.

[Pagwatch]

No, you are not just responding to most post.
You are being odd and I don't understand what you are trying to achieve.

A conversation which goes

'Well I think that the SN board does a really good job, of course it can't be perfect'
'Well what would perfect look like'
'Well if it met everyone's needs that would be perfect but that not possible'
'Well how could it meet everyone's needs'

is either spoiling for a fight, being deliberately obtuse or overly defensive.

I don't understand what you are trying to achieve. The only thing that would make sense is if you were one of the posters that was fucking unpleasant on the couple of threads that shocked me. The 'well golly gee they call it how it is on there' makes me wonder.
I have a crap memory and I can't be asked to look but it would make your comments here make sense. The faux wide eyed questioning while actually making obscure digs rings a bell.

[Samcro]

the sn board can be a brilliant place. if you fit in. if you don't it can be a lonely place.
just like any other topic that is aimed at a target audience.
i don't go there now as i didn't fit in with the people who run it(or used too)
the people who post there are just people, just cos you have a child with sn doesn't make you a shiney angel.

[Pagwatch]

Exactly so Samcro.

And I think the desire to support familiar posters is thoroughly understandable and a good thing - having a sense of community there is a fantastic thing. It just unfortunately can have a bad result when it starts to feel like ganging up, however unintentional.

That's not a criticism of the board. It's an observation of an understandable dynamic.

[UmbongoUnchained]

I've never experienced disablism from mnhq, only from other posters.

[AugustaFinkNottle]

I can remember the SN boards being quite cliquey a few years ago, and indeed it got quite vicious around the time the new law was being proposed. I get the feeling though that it has improved a lot, not least because some member of the original cliques disappeared.

[sashh]

On the community team alone, we have a member of staff who is deaf, and member of staff who has a son with DS. We do try to be as compassionate and understanding as we can be to all.

Do fuck off dear.

That's the 'I can't be a misogynist because I have a wife' argument. Similar to something I overheard once, "We are not a racist company, everyone we employ is white".

Do you have a member who is deaf or Deaf? And do you know the difference?

Would you want me to be compassionate and understanding if someone was stopping you getting to work?

Say you opened your front door to find it had been bricked up, every single day. Would you want me to hold your hand and say 'there, there, they probably needed to do that' or would you want me to stop the bastards? Would you be angry? Would you have a right to be angry?

[DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen]

I missed the thread but just had a read through this one.

Why don't HQ email when they are going to delete a thread? Seems odd when they email posters who report.

[Bearsinmotion]

I was a bit at that comment too sashh. Also people with disabilities are such a broad group - as a wheelchair user I have no experience of the issues facing a parent of a child with SN, it's a totally different situation. So I am not convinced having a deaf / Deaf staff member or a parent of a child who has DS shows MN are not disablist.

[MiffleTheIntrovert]

That comment was in answer to the question that asked if MNHQ employed anyone with disabilities. It wasn't made out of context in a tenuous well my sisters uncles girlfriends son has autism.

[BishopBrennansArse]

I'm Deaf, a wheelchair user and have children with Autism if we're playing too trumps on disability qualification...

[Bearsinmotion]

I know Miffle, I guess the question wasn't appropriate either!

[Jasonandyawegunorts]

Can someone explain what the significance of deaf/Deaf is?

It's the people who intergrate themselves into the hearing community and the ones that do not. Frusso was talking about it when her DD got a cochlear implant.

[MrsJayy]

Oh how diverse of them Mrsdv

[BishopBrennansArse]

If better lose the capital then by that definition.

I do identify the deaf community as separate from the hearing one but I'm not anti integration.

[MrsJayy]

I was once put forward for an interview for an inspection for a place I worked picked at random apparently at the interview there was me (disabled) a man (gay) and a woman it was tick tick tick Bingo

[sashh]

Can someone explain what the significance of deaf/Deaf is?

Deaf is someone who identifies as part of the Deaf community, is a BSL user and sees themselves as part of a linguistic minority and does not always identify as having a disability. I have also come across someone who identifies as Deaf although he had normal hearing. His argument was that his parents and wife are Deaf and BSL is his first and preferred language.

deaf, or 'small d deaf' means someone who has not got normal hearing and who is probably part of the hearing community, often someone who has lost their hearing as part of the aging process.

[sashh]

It would be very hard to be anti integration. Deaf people might have Deaf partners but they are most likely to have hearing family and hearing children

But if those children are BSL users then they are part of the Deaf community. Please see my previous post.