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I feel so angry reading 'Everyone's Invited' website about rape culture largely at private schools

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Bouledeneige · 26/03/2021 00:02

So I read the Dulwich College post and now the allegations about Highgate School on Newsnight. There are fulsome letters to both schools governors published online. They make for heartbreaking and stomach churning reading. I am so angry. I've just read the 'Everyone's invited' website and I can see how entrenched misogyny, rape culture, slut shaming, homophobia and racism are in the named school. - mostly private but a few selective.

And underling them all is a powerful suggestion that school leadership is all about 'boys will be boys', reputation management and 'there's two sides to every story'. So traumatised female students are forced into silence and reduced to walking the corridors with their abusers with lots of mockery and slutt shaming accompanying them. Its so disgusting - it is beyond anything that can be excused. Who on earth wants our sons to be recruited into this misogynistic and coercive rape culture or our daughters abused and living in fear of it?

I've stated my views on other threads. My kids went to a not so perfect state school in London. The big difference to these accounts is that they experienced a very 'woke' and 'right on' school culture that demonstrated a zero tolerance culture and empowerment of the female students. They were so empowered they actively and powerfully called out sexist, racist and homophobic behaviours and the perpetrators - boys - were called to account formally and informally. It was not a perfect school at all - there was drugs, sexual behaviour and bullying but the culture of the school was so zero tolerance it went beyond a few PHSE chats it was inculcated in the ethos of the whole school. the predominant culture was mature female and diverse voices,, backed by teachers and the leadership of the school articulating a mature and equitable world. To be fair I think the boys followed behind.

But I'm not focused on my DC's experiences. I'm absolutely choked that the Harvey Weinstein, rape assertive power dynamic is prospering in school environments. Its disgusting. I hope there is a root and branch review and parents start asking about the character that private and selective schools engender |not just the results. There's an old adage that a[rents of boys would prefer them to be civilised by being schooled alongside their female contemporaries but that girls do better in all female environments.

It is such a joke when we talk about equality in work environments when so many women have been exposed to these brutish rapey school environments. We will never change society if we don't change education. And we have to more actively prepare our young men for decent and egalitarian behaviour to women and our young women to be empowered to be empowered and seek retribution. But in the end it will be leadership in schools that have a primarily male culture that makes the biggest difference investigating and punishing out sexist and abusive behaviour and treating perpetrators in the same way as students accused of drugs offences. And secondly, peer pressure amongst young men at parties, on school buses and in classes that really calls out bad behaviour.- this is not who we are as men. It really, really matters. And parents can't leave it to someone else. They need to actively avoid school environments with toxic cultures and probe how they exert a zero tolerance egalitarian culture. Take action, remove your money and change the economy of private schooling.

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Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 10:00

@Stripyhoglets1 If the head goes they should bring in a headmistress next, be a very wise PR move.

Curioushorse · 31/03/2021 10:12

Do you know what would be interesting? If OfSTED inspected private as well as state schools. Their standards are enormously higher than ISI- which is basically a gentleman’s club. I know that sounds contentious- but those of us who have taught in both environments will know the inspections are nowhere near comparable. And.....I don’t think a lot of private schools want them to be, because I don’t think they’d necessarily come out well.

This is a really good example of a situation we can’t compare. OfSTED haven’t policed the private sector in terms of safeguarding in the same way as the state, so there is no way of examining this situation properly.

Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 10:16

@Curioushorse I agree and I suspect it will be the only way out of this for these schools - more accountability to Ofstead will protect the children in their care and smooth the bumpy ride ahead with their customers who are up in arms and rightly so.

AuntieStella · 31/03/2021 10:16

OFSTED do inspect some private schools

But as the founder of EI is now clear on the record that the problem is just as widespread in state schools, I'm not sure that OFSTED will be a major part of any solution

Stokey · 31/03/2021 10:24

@Stripyhoglets1 there is an article in The Times today where the head of Dulwich says that incidents were addressed but not reported back to the victims

"His intervention came as the head of Dulwich College, which contacted police after being told that abuse had been perpetrated by its pupils, admitted in a video message to parents that the school had allowed some incidents to “calm down” and that in others victims may not have been told of outcomes.
He said he knew of at least two cases where “someone might have thought that something was left”, adding: “I think there were reasons why at the time things were just allowed to calm down rather than be brought to a crisis but there are lessons to learn.

“There were areas where we actually did act but we didn’t ever report back to the victims.”

Sounds like he's scrambling to cover his back.

Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 10:35

Another account from the Times today about someone abused at an elite school - Louis De Bernieres. When are people going to realise the crimes that some of these institutions allowed to happen for so many years. If they were care homes they would be shut. As a survivor of awful behaviour from boys in an elite school every time I read something like this I shiver.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/louis-de-bernieres-horrors-of-school-still-haunt-me-h89dwdsrz

Stokey · 31/03/2021 10:57

It's awful but unsurprising the historic abuse that went on. By the time I was at boarding school in the 80s, beatings would have been frowned upon but there were still lesser instances of physical violence. For example I remember a teacher throwing a board rubber at me, and another one banging mine and my friend's heads together.

I think it was around that time people became more switched on about paedophilia in boarding schools. I remember male friends being interviewed in the 90s at uni about a larger paedo ring around several boarding schools in central England.

Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 11:05

My. husband knew of several boys abused at his prep but says he escaped as he wasn't 'pretty enough'. It is stomach turning. And the teacher was sent on to another school when he was exposed. Late80's so not even that long ago.

CJFJ1 · 31/03/2021 11:12

Clearly the answer is to close all independent schools down and convert them to state academies.

Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 11:23

Or at least have a transparent inspection regime for both sectors of education?

Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 11:36

This sums up how many are feeling about the covering up - poor poor girl

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56567390

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 31/03/2021 11:52

I suspect the excuse of not wanting to ruin bright boys' promising futures was often the rationale for not progressing complaints of inappropriate behaviour by schools. Shameful.

Stokey · 31/03/2021 11:54

Because there aren't any issues with academies Hmm

Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 11:54

@NewModelArmyMayhem18 My husband always says he was most upset about the parents at his prep - they knew the teacher had done things and that he had been moved on to another school (and no doubt more victims) but no one spoke up, not wanting to tarnish the reputation of the school that their sons were at. It is a very top Prep school and they wanted their sons to be able to say that they went to that school in their later lives without tarnish.

Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 11:56

@stokey
Issues at all schools but the ones that aren't businesses reliant on customers are less interested in crisis management PR agencies and brand protection. There are some very busy PR people right now I am told.

tangerinelollipop · 31/03/2021 12:07

the ones that aren't businesses reliant on customers

These ones do not come with a certificate of holiness either Confused

All kinds of shenanigans can happen in them too (including coverups, etc)

tangerinelollipop · 31/03/2021 12:07

Generalisations are wrong IMO. Specific issues need to be properly addressed wherever they take place

PresentingPercy · 31/03/2021 12:16

Actually all schools are reliant on parental good-will. They just differ slightly in how this manifests itself. You will know that there is a massive scramble for places at London senior schools. There will be enough parents to go round - whatever.

I notice Winchester is now reviewing whether they now want girls.

Private schools are not going to close in London. Or probably anywhere else because of this. Minor ones do close for financial reasons but they have usually been on the wane for years and are uninspiring. The big names will not close - definitely not in London. All heads will be very anxious to improve safeguarding and welfare and ensure parents know they are doing this in a robust manner. I have no doubt parents of boys will be made aware that tolerance levels of abuse are now 0. If, as alleged, PR companies are very busy with school business, it is not getting into the press! I would say gloss and PR has been notably absent.

I also think it is very wrong to blame teachers and schools for DC behaving badly in private houses. However if a DC discloses something to a teacher, under safeguarding law, the teacher must act. The police too. What about criticising the police for non action? They have a long history of that.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 31/03/2021 12:18

Because there aren't any issues with academies. There are plenty of issues in state schools but I just don't think pupils' potential (and it being ruined) is 'protected' in quite the same way, I really don't.

Oohhhbetty · 31/03/2021 12:24

I think a few things are going on -

Firstly (hopefully) every school in the land is learning from the fee paying schools being thrown under the bus by previously compliant/on message journalists in the broad sheet media who publish many paid adverts from these schools but seem to be currently brave enough to threaten to lose that advertising revenue to use these schools' famous status to hold up as an example to other schools that don't get the clicks (the Everything Invited idea got no traction until they began to name schools - have a look at the article in the Times today by Alice Thompson who explains that no one was interested until it was shiny schools that were being named.) These schools sacrificed their reputations for the greater good -well they do like to say that they like to help state schools learn 'better practice', maybe we can pass this off as doing their bit for wider education which helps with their charitable status?

Secondly, fee paying parents of sons at schools such as DC are horrified that having paid exorbitant amounts of money to make sure that every time their child wrote the words Dulwich College (or similar) on an UCAS form, CV or job application that it would bestow them some sort of special treatment, they find instead that they might, by default, that the interviewer/reader might think, by default, that they are a sexual predator and not want them at their uni/company etc. And that bloody hurts, I get it, no one wanted to bestow that special treatment on their child. No one wants there child to be discriminated against because of where they went to school (that is why they paid in the first place, to avoid such things, non?)

But the most important thing is what do we do going forward? How do we make young boys see that this is no longer acceptable in any school, on any phone, at any party, in any club, to any other human being, whether it is a girl or a more vulnerable boy?

Lollipop888 · 31/03/2021 12:36

@tangerinelollipop

the ones that aren't businesses reliant on customers

These ones do not come with a certificate of holiness either Confused

All kinds of shenanigans can happen in them too (including coverups, etc)

I definitely agree that there are problems in state schools too and attempts to cover up behaviour and bullying etc but equally can see that exposing such behaviour in these schools would not make as much of a headline as exposing it at the top schools.

It doesn’t mean state or academy schools are squeaky clean though.

And I agree it sounds like there has been a lot of reputation protecting going on- school, head and pupil.

Lollipop888 · 31/03/2021 12:40

@NewModelArmyMayhem18

I suspect the excuse of not wanting to ruin bright boys' promising futures was often the rationale for not progressing complaints of inappropriate behaviour by schools. Shameful.
Definitely agree with this.

It needs to be addressed in all walks of life though not just schools. I remember in the last few years a female medical student from Oxford or cambridge uni I think getting off lightly with stabbing her boyfriend because she had a promising future (and probably had rich parents and went to a “good” school before that).

Curioushorse · 31/03/2021 12:46

This is such an interesting thread (in a bad way- but also in the almost universal lack of surprise. Yeah, I too have experienced the entitled behaviour from men who went through elite private schools. It is very believable that they expect to be able to attract and behave towards others sexually in the same entitled way they live their life).

.....but I know somebody who is trying to deal with the aftermath from this website. They’ve had an anonymous allegation about their school on the website. It’s serious. Because it’s anonymous though, they have no way of directly helping the victim or investigating the perpetrator. They don’t even know if it’s an historic accusation, or about a recent incident.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 31/03/2021 12:47

@Lollipop888 you must have read my mind. I typed a paragraph referencing the young female medical school from Oxford then deleted it (not sure why). But I think the reason people are 'having a go' at these eltitist public schools is for the very reason that somehow pupils' potential is put above what is right to do.