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If your roommate at a boarding school is a bully...

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BullyingAtBoardingSchool · 19/05/2019 02:19

DS is 12 and he is a weekly boarder. It was his choice and he was very happy until a boy from China joined the school in January and became his roommate.

DS told me the boy could be quite annoying but he wasn't a bad boy so they were 'OK'. He also said they sometimes clashed but they were working on their differences. He'd never badmouthed him and seemed to be genuinely trying to be on good terms with this boy.

However, when we had a parent meeting in February, literally every single teacher mentioned about the toxic relationship between them, some seemed very concerned or even apologetic. I was a bit surprised but thought they were over-reacting. DS didn't say they got on brilliantly, but he had other friends to play with anyway, so didn't seem to be too concerned about it.

However, near the end of the last term, DS got increasingly unhappy with this boy and requested to change the roommate for the next term. The housemaster previously told us half termly room change could happen when things weren't working well, and we actually saw some changes at a half term before. So asking for a room change for a new term wasn't an unreasonable request. The housemaster knew things were pretty bad between them and hinted his request would be accepted. But just before the school broke for Easter, DS was informed he had to stay with the boy for one more term. The reason for this was the headmaster believed it would be good for DS to gain more patience and resilience. DS was shocked as he expected his request would be approved, but he accepted and followed the instruction.

At the very beginning of this term, things didn't seem bad. DS actually said they were improving. However, this boy's attitude towards DS gradually became nasty and today DS told me he wouldn't cope with the situation any longer. The boy is incredibly selfish, wouldn't allow DS to use shared objects in the room, kicks, and steps on DS's belongings, swears at him day and night, badmouths his parents (us) - this particularly hurt DS, keeps saying mean things with lots of swearing when DS is trying to sleep, and more!! He can't relax when the boy is around. He also fears this boy may do something to his belongings when DS is out of the room, so has to keep going back to the room just to prevent this to happen. It's serious mental bullying to my eyes.

DS doesn't just cry away, so occasionally fights back or try to meet an agreement (most of the times he tries to ignore). But all these things are so draining for him that it's started affecting his ability to focus on study and other extracurricular activities.

I told DS I would email the school to make them act immediately. I would also request the room change after the second half, so only one more week to go, then a week off, then when he's back to school, the boy wouldn't be his roommate anymore. I also told him, if it becomes too much next week, I would come to pick him up and he would stay at home until the school sort this out. He seemed to be very relieved and went to sleep smiling.

This school is so proud of its anti-bullying policy and has a history to punish 'bullies' pretty harshly in the past. However, strangely, this boy doesn't get in any trouble, even though his general attitude is very poor and his bullying towards DS seems to be well known. DS said an older pupil told him that the boy's family is very wealthy and probably gave the school a huge amount of donation, so the headmaster wouldn't want to lose this boy. It's just a silly gossip, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's true... This boy has certainly totally different treatment from others.

I've just finished writing the email to the school. My son was very thankful when I offered to step in. However, am I too naive to expect the school takes our complaint seriously? We aren't wealthy. DS got significant financial help to pay for the fees. I know we aren't particularly attractive to the school financially. I'm worrying I may disappoint DS if I'm unsuccessful to make any significant change after I promised him everything would be fine.

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Strawberrypancakes · 20/05/2019 08:25

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happygardening · 20/05/2019 08:28

I find it amazing the assumptions people make someone they know nothing about. A trust fund hefty maintainence payments. In my dreams maybe.
I was accused of having a selfish lifestyle quite simply my lifestyle is no more selfish than any other average parent. I do have a job which most people believe makes you selfless but as I also said this maybe erroneous and debating this is a separate thread. Thirdly why would I disclose my occupation? I like to maintain a degree of anonymity.
My DS didn’t board because of my job (I wasn’t working when he first boarded) my DS boarded for one very simple reason the education and opportunities were vastly superior to any that were offered in a day school in either sectors so it was the right decision for him.

SJane48S · 20/05/2019 08:34

I went at 10 - I can’t imagine either of my DDs would have been ready for that. But as a PP has said, this isn’t a thread on the rights or wrongs of boarding and a quick line of apology for my contribution on that OP. If this really an isolated incident and you’re absolutely sure he’s generally happy then go in ASAP to the Head and ensure this is sorted - I would agree that being visibly furious wouldn’t help but being professionally firm would. If this does continue beyond this incident, I would seriously look at moving him. Being very unhappy in a boarding environment isn’t a life experience you want for him - we’re not Victorians!

anothernotherone · 20/05/2019 08:34

happygardening if you don't want people to make assumptions why write such a long, wandering, oddly boastful post full of veiled hints and unsubstantiated references to your selflessness. If you hadn't done all the "I could say, but I won't, how little you know about what a selfless gift to the world I am" stuff, there would have been nothing to make assumptions about.

BubblesBuddy · 20/05/2019 08:41

I think some boarding parents don’t necessarily see themselves as great parents and can afford help. It does not produce Twats who don’t care about anyone else. DD is a Family Barrister and I can assure everyone she has empathy for her clients. Some cases are harrowing. I absolutely hate this notion that boarding children are not able to mix with other people or understand them. Boarding doesn’t change someone’s caring personality.

I’m sure parents consider whether to board or not very seriously. I find it very odd that women cannot support other women on these threads. Calling people selfish, twats and other abuse is not supportive. You do of course have the right to call us names but you are all somewhat unpleasant.

Happygardening: I fully support your decisions in life and I can see that those of us in a minority position are there to be shot at. We all make decisions that suit our families. I do not know any school friends of my DDs that are not pleasant, hard working and caring people. The stereotype talked about on here is so far from the truth for the majority it’s ludicrous. I also know from posts on other threads that if you can afford a better lifestyle you are there to be shot down! It’s jealousy.

There is a trait in some schools to look out for DC with the richest parents. School staff might do this without knowing but I have seen DC taken special care of when others are not treated in the same way. It’s noticed and talked about. It might manifest itself by what school house you are in or, as I have said on another thread, multiple undeserved prizes on speech day and definitely a role in school leadership. It happens and the rest of us suck it up. Of course there are fund raisers with specific parents invited and special favours for them. It’s all about getting more money out of them. Those of us not on this planet look on. The OP is looking on. None of that means her DS should not be treated properly and in accordance with policies, but it probably explains why the school is tardy about dealing with it and is giving the other child the benefit of the doubt for too long.

As I said earlier, most schools with boys boarding age 12 are prep schools. Not senior schools that start at 13, y9. Therefore I’m wondering about the quality of the schools boarding provision and staff.

Strawberrypancakes · 20/05/2019 08:54

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SJane48S · 20/05/2019 09:23

(Large sigh). I believe I used the twat word in reference to my own school and I hold my hand up completely to having been one. Assuming that anyone who’s not pro boarding is jealous & chippy is not the most intelligent & bright response - you have absolutely no idea of the income of anyone in this thread. Well done to the Barrister DD & quite genuinely you must be proud. However I would say that mixing with a broader cross section of society is probably better preparation for life - I do appreciate each to their own though & am not bombastic in my views that everything I say must be right! Of course boarding doesn’t change a child’s personality - what utter nonsense! But for a child prone to being a bit self entitled or diffident, being sent off to an Eton or Harrow (and Bubbles, yes darling I did grow up with a few boys who went there & count a few old Etonians & Harrovians as friends) might not help with that.

ziggiestardust · 20/05/2019 10:27

Yikes at the poster suggesting that people who don’t use boarding are jealous! It’s a mindset. You either find it an acceptable path or you don’t.

FWIW both DH and I are ex military. After your child reaches the age of 8; they no longer guarantee staggered front line postings and will send you on front line drafts (ie away from home for 3 months + at a time) at the same time. The military’s response to that is to pay for boarding school for those children. That wasn’t a path DH and I were prepared to take, and we had a good, comfortable life with good salaries. You literally could not have paid us to put our son in boarding school, which was actually what the solution was.

Like I say; it’s either a path you want to take or it isn’t. For the pro boarding school people on here; I probably couldn’t convince you of my reasons for not liking boarding. You’ve already made up your minds, and if your kids are happy then that’s that.

But what about when they’re not? And that’s what this OP was all about; her DS is being bullied and the school is dragging its feet whilst the OP wrote emails to try and rectify. In this situation; that’s not enough. Children remember their bullies for the rest of their lives, that’s a fact. Bullying is bad enough when it happens at a day school; but if your bully is your room mate at boarding school? That’s horrendous; you have no safe space. I can’t imagine anyone being fine with that if it was happening to their child, and I remain genuinely surprised at the ineffectiveness of the OP’s actions thus far. I hope she takes stronger, more decisive action (namely transporting him to and from school daily and speaking to the head personally) to protect her child.

BubblesBuddy · 20/05/2019 10:53

ziggie: I actually posted about affording a different (better) lifestyle leads to jealousy. I did not say anyone was jealous of parents who used boarding schools. I specifically mentioned other threads. Not this one! Try and read the post accurately before calling me out.

anothernotherone · 20/05/2019 10:58

BubblesBuddy are you seriously telling a poster off because you are trying to turn this into a taat?

ziggiestardust · 20/05/2019 11:04

@bubblesbuddy; what can I say, it’s how it came across and I don’t think I’m the only poster (from the comments you’ve received in reply) who thinks so.

SJane48S · 20/05/2019 11:13

On what planet exactly do you live on where being able to afford boarding school fees is having a better life??!! I believe you made a hugely judgemental (and to be frank, ignorant) comment about me being ‘jealous’ on another thread after you’d dismissed cruising as being in a bubble whereas your own yachting holidays are far more authentic. My comment was basically same thing just bigger boat!! For the record I have been on yachts & you’re very welcome to them - I’m yet to find anything less than a tanker I don’t vomit virtually continuously on!
I would really really question your whole ethos that having money & the privilege that goes with it is better. How on earth are you qualifying better?? I had what most people would judge to be a privileged upbringing - I’m not sure being sent off to the other side of the world to my family to school was ‘better’ than my DHs experience of growing up in a council house with a single mother & going to the local comp. Certainly he saw a great deal more of his family. As a couple we have a good lifestyle & have been lucky professionally but I wouldn’t in a million years say what our children have was ‘better’ than some of their friends living in different financial circumstances. I think you really do need to take a rather long look at how you are viewing success and happiness!

MyThirdBestWig · 20/05/2019 11:29

I read it like Another, Ziggy and other posters.

It is a very sad case indeed if OP and her son just have to put up with being second class citizens. I have to say I never experienced that as a scholar.

Amazing opportunities etc aren't all that if you have nowhere to hide from your bully and no one to help you. OP needs to be that person who fixes this. Hopefully she will be back in a bit to report it's all sorted and he'll be moved.

BullyingAtBoardingSchool · 20/05/2019 11:30

Bullying is often caused by insecurities, uncertainty, boredom, and unhappiness. I see some of the posters on here act like a bully, to be honest. Some posts are quite shocking when you know they were written by fully grownup, assumingly educated people, and Ironically when we are discussing bullying issues...

I am not a pro-boarding school, by the way. We never actively sought that route. DS is fortunate to find the school for him and it just happened to be a boarding school. He is an only child. If I allowed myself to be totally selfish, I would keep him at home. We came a long way to accommodate his needs and happiness, like any other parent who wishes their own children's happiness.

Can we all settle that we are all different, and allow others to be different? There isn't and shouldn't be right or wrong. Those who are screaming they wouldn't dream of sending their DCs to boarding schools... Well..., no need to scream as no one is trying to make you do so. Your DCs won't go to boarding school because you don't choose the path. Relax.

DS has gone back to school. I'll write the update soon.

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SJane48S · 20/05/2019 11:38

Good luck & best wishes - blips happen in all children’s lives, hopefully this will just be a small one

BullyingAtBoardingSchool · 20/05/2019 13:09

Firstly, my sincere apologies to all the posters who kindly took time to share their wisdom and experience but ended up attracting unnecessary personal attacks - some of which were so horrible I wondered what their own children would think of what their parents were capable to write. If it's any consolation, your posts with all the good intentions helped me greatly to get through this. I was a mess when I started the thread.

Secondly, I am happy to inform you that the school acted swiftly and DS is now given a separate room from the boy. The housemaster had done all the necessary arrangements before we arrived. He had also been working on the boy's issues, mainly with his communicating skills and ability to see others' point of views. He was adamant it would take time but he had just started seeing some improvements so he was keen to keep helping the boy, and eventually and hopefully, DS and the boy could be more compatible to each other, one day.

Some conflictions are unavoidable in our daily life. Learning to be empathetic to others, be strong enough to support people with different values, be forgiven to others' mistakes, all help deal with the differences between people/friends. I am willing to be supportive and understanding of the boy who clearly has some issues to tackle. It's not only the boy anyway who has to learn and improve. My DS isn't perfect. He has to work on his own weakness. I appreciate people around him are being patient with him while he's learning how to be a good human being.

DS still has an option to come home tonight if he wants. But I doubt he would, to be honest. He loves his free time before lights out. He would rather like to have fun with friends than sitting in a car.

I prepared myself for all sorts of scenarios before going in this morning. But I got the outcome DS wanted most. He didn't want to be a day pupil, didn't want to go to a different school. He wanted to stay as a weekly boarder at the school. After the meeting with the housemaster, I cried in a car. I was so relieved I was able to tell DS, yes you can stay there as before. It was too overwhelming.

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BubblesBuddy · 20/05/2019 13:42

Well done Bullying. I am so glad the school has now acted and understood that, just for now, these lads need different room arrangements.

If DC are happy, then we are happy! It can be overwhelming though. Now you can look forward to summer events at school and your DS continuing to enjoy school! Well done again! Flowers

BubblesBuddy · 20/05/2019 13:50

Actually I forgot to say that sometimes DC can end up liking DC who were previously unkind to them. At a young age there are insecurities and sometimes it comes out as bullying. Sometimes strong personalities just don’t gel. Later on, when they mature and reflect, they come back into the fold so to speak. You might be surprised at how DC change down the years. Mine has just been on holiday with one she didn’t like (strongly didn’t like!) at school! You never know what the future holds.

Strawberrypancakes · 20/05/2019 13:53

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SJane48S · 20/05/2019 14:02

She is - so that’s cool. Agree we’re only ever as happy as our least happy child & as a parent it’s hard that we can’t always fix the world for them & bumps are inevitable. It sounds like sound progress has been made & the school are being proactive. May you never have to post on this issue again!

SJane48S · 20/05/2019 14:14

On another note, I imagine in real life we’d all of us have a lot more in common with each other & actually get on far more than we do on an Internet forum.(Vows to be nicer!)

BullyingAtBoardingSchool · 20/05/2019 15:58

Bubbles, yes children change and friendships change. Life is full of surprises. Thanks again for your sharing. I even took some notes from your posts when I was figuring out how to approach school in case of unhappy outcome. Luckily I didn't need to use the notes.

Strawberry, you are free to believe what you like to believe. You've been full of surprises really.

SJane, yes I hope I never have to post on this issues again. But it doesn't mean I expect Happy Ever After. Things will happen. And we just try our best to deal with it, again.

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Nesssie · 20/05/2019 16:11

Strawberrypancakes - Every single one of your posts have been rude and pointless. Just fuck off

Everyone was telling the OP to go in and get action taken immediately, move her son immediately, and now that has been done apparently it was 'too quick' for your liking Hmm

OP didn't go in all guns blazing, causing a scene that could have negatively impacted her son and their relationship with his school she went through the appropriate channels, and the outcome has been excellent.

Well done OP, and I commend you for not rising to those vile pp who accused you of not loving your son/child abuse etc etc

BubblesBuddy · 20/05/2019 16:22

Bullying: Glad you didn’t need the notes! Best to be prepared for all eventualities though!

happygardening · 20/05/2019 17:46

It’s extraordinary how a seemingly innocuous post attracts such rudeness and hostility. Over the years I’ve contributed to many threads on boarding Ive had similarish experiences but this has to be the worst. Whilst my DS boarded I personally knew few parents who sent their children to days schools, if this is an examples of the sort of typical behaviour day parents exhibit when other parents don’t agree with them then I can chalk up another example of why boarding is a good idea.
Well done OP Im glad it’s been resolved I have no problem believing that it has been resolved IME HMs usually act pretty quickly in these situations, once the seriousness of the whole thing has become clear. Hopefully with support the boy in question will adapt his behaviour I agree with bubbles sometimes unpopular children can become good friends with those who they initially found them difficult. I hope that your DS will continue to love his school like you I too wasn’t pro boarding in the very beginning.