Parents try to stop children being taught about trans relationships

[julie333]

As far as I know, parents will no longer be allowed to take their children out of Sex Education from 2020.

The subject was debated in the Halls of Westminster yesterday (25 February).

Whatever parents' opinions may be about trangenderism, I do think ultimately it´s the parents who decide what their children should be taught about this matter and not the State.

"The UK Conservative government is set to announce plans for the introduction of lessons on homosexuality and transgenderism for primary school students, despite an official petition against the move, signed by over 100,000.

The Sunday Times reports that the new curriculum has been finalized after a six-month consultation with the Department of Education, and will be rolled out across UK schools starting from the 2020-21 educational year.

It will be taught to pupils from the age of five, and it will be illegal for parents to take their children out of the classroom for the lessons in secondary school, meaning that at least a term’s worth of sex education classes – and likely far more – will be attended by each student."

If you wis to sign the petition against compulsory Sex Education,then here is the link:

Give parents the right to opt their child out of Relationship and Sex Education

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/235053

Why on earth would you, though?

They're not practical lessons, you realise?

Because there is an agenda and it isn’t an agenda I’m comfortable with.

Thanks, OP.

What agenda?

It's about time that the government stepped in to ensure that all children have access to information about their bodies, sexual health, sexual orientation etc.

You do realise that the main groups objecting to this have an homophobic agenda, don't you?

Personally I think being gay is normal, and don't have any problem whatsoever with children being taught about gay relationships.

On the other hand, I think that transgender varies between being a sexual choice and a mental illness, in most cases, so I don't think it should be taught about as if it's normal.

Education about gender roles (and why they are a load of harmful bollocks) is more important.

You do realise that the main groups objecting to this have an homophobic agenda, don't you?

Says who?

I would want to know who was delivering such training. I would have no problem with Transgender Trend, but would have with Mermaids (see recent Sunday Times articles) or Allsorts. Given the huge rise in teenagers presenting as transgender, plus the large number of such kids who have other things (authistic spectrum, trauma, MH problems) going on, I would be very wary of any organisation who suggests an affirmation only approach, and even more wary of any organisation who advocates keeping parents out of the loop.

Why would this be homophobic? Trans is about gender identity, not about sexual attraction. Sex and gender, as kids, hopefully, learn in school science, are completely different.

I have no problem with gay or straight relationship advice. I and my children very much feel that being gay is a normal part of life. I'm afraid I don't think of transgender issues as even slightly relevant and wouldn't want to teach it, never mind having to listen to it.

Why not read the response to the petition? I think you may find yourselves reassured.

We just don't understand enough about trans issues for schools to be taking it on to educate over. They get their information from mermaids etc

We don't have the scientific research we need.

Too many children need far more intensive parenting support surrounding this issue for schools to be taking it on yet

Homosexuality doesn't include chopping off body parts, or taking hormones... it's a far simpler subject for schools to tackle

I don't understand what relationship being trans has with being gay.

Surely they are completely different things.

More and more children are confused about their gender than ever before.

We have to ask the question .... why is this happening now?

Children are being taken to the Tavistock Centre and are being given puberty blockers.

Most of those children do not suffer from Gender dysphoria.

I support any parent who has a child with Gender dysphoria, but In my opinion the vast number of children confused about their gender are by being socially engineered by the media and complicit State (whatever puppet party) and unknown chemicals in the air, food, plastics etc.

Research the number of trangender people who committ suicide.

It´s much highter than the national average.

A confusion only added to by teachers picking their way delicately through a subject that no-one knows much about at all.

I just wish they didn’t need to teach this like a gay and trans are an oddity heading teaching about. They should just be seamlessly part of any discussion on love and sex as straight relationships are. There should be no need to make a big topic about it. But hopefully we’ll eventually get there.

I agree with you about gay relationships auntie but not trans.

Sex education, fine! Educating children in damaging gender stereotypes is something completely different.

i do not want my children to be taught that if they do not conform to gender stereotypes then they should start to question whether their body matches their feelings and if these do not conform to set of stereotypes, then they should consider themselves 'trans' and set off down a road that leads them to remove healthy body parts, take life long hormonal medications and sterilisation so that their body appears like that of the opposite sex. (and when they get there, they might find their feelings do not conform to that of the opposite set of stereotypes either but irreversible damage will have been done.) Puberty is a difficult time, children should be taught to love and respect their bodies, not to hate them.

It's the conflation of gay and trans that I object to. They are not the same. Transgender Trend advocates watchful waiting. I can see no justification whatsoever for medicating healthy children who are too young to consent.

(And the off-quoted suicide figures don't seem to be scientifically verified. And indeed may equally reflect the autism, trauma or other problems so many trans kids seem to suffer from.)

I don't want my kids being told they can change sex. No one can change sex.

I don't want my kids being told that because they don't like "thing assigned as boys thing" or because they like "thing assigned as girls thing" that they must have a different gender identity. I was very much a girl who loved "boys" things and desperately wanted to be a boy, and would have swallowed this whole thing, demanded me a binder to flatten my hated breasts, pills to get rid of my periods etc. I won't have my kids lied to!

One of my kids is gay. I have absolutely no problem with that. Who he fancies and dates is totally up to him, as long as he and his partner are happy.

Teaching kids that people can love who they want is perfectly fine.

Teaching kids they can change sex, might be born in the wrong body etc because "feelings" is wrong.

I wonder if this applies to private schools?

Homosexuality is normal in our family.

Trying to decipher the trans movement to very young children whilst no one has an idea how it’s going to play out, delivered by god knows who - isn’t.

If there is a fine I’ll take it

I think its unbelievably sneaky that they have done this . Deliberate use of the lgb to make objecting look like you are a massive homophobe and therefore less likely to say any thing.

My Kids already know about men loving Men and how families can be made up.

I dont want them groomed to accepting penises in their changing rooms and made to feel they have to be boys in order to do the jobs they want to do.

So manipulative.

Seriously, read the draft guidelines. Actually look at what is proposed, because it isn't "trans relationships".

Trans is far more than simply accepting yourself or accepting others for things that cannot be changed.

We don't accept tattoos or body piercing for minors, those minor changes are considered too difficult to make underage

Giving them the idea that some people are born in the wrong bodies and we can change that - when actually we can't, not without big side effects and risks is dangerous to promote in schools and needs very careful handling. It's also imo dangerous water - are disabled people also born in the wrong bodies? That's the territory we cross into giving it harmonious acceptance without scientific research to back it up. We don't have research proving anything despite constantly being told acceptance of it is the way to go.

Generally I am happy with schools doing PSHE.

However, I would be very wary of schools teaching wrt trans issues at this time when it is such a heated issue and organisations such as Mermaids have monopolized training and push the message that TWAW.

Research the number of trangender people who committ suicide.

No it isn't.

(Oops) Try again:

Research the number of trangender people who committ suicide.
It´s much highter than the national average.

No it isn't.

I would be furious if the school told my child that it was possible to change sex when it isn't.