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Gender Recognition Reform - Bill at Holyrood

259 replies

ArabellaScott · 23/10/2022 14:18

This Bill goes to parliament for discussion on Tuesday.

If you'd like to write to your MSPs to raise the issue of women's rights and/or children's rights, here are some useful ideas for points to raise/form letters:

forwomen.scot/08/10/2022/gender-recognition-reform-bill-stage-1-action/

To find your MSPs:

www.writetothem.com/

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promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:42

@Rainbowshit it tells me that the people who are sex offenders are in the jail

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:44

I think you will find that similarly 100% of people who are in jail for rape are men

Merrilydancing · 22/12/2022 22:45

Karen White committed crimes in a female prison, ok this was in England but they still committed crimes against other female prisoners, are female prisoners not entitled to safe space in prison from male bodied women?

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:45

LMAO. Doesn't really fit with your earlier posts though does it? Given that the rates are much higher than other demographics.

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:46

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:44

I think you will find that similarly 100% of people who are in jail for rape are men

Not quite...

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:47

@Rainbowshit please learn what statistics mean

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:48

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:47

@Rainbowshit please learn what statistics mean

I'm an actuary. What do you want to teach me about statistics? Go on. This should be interesting.

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:49

@Merrilydancing this is one of the reasons the GRA was implemented. if people can misidentify then we end up with criminality

exwhyzed · 22/12/2022 22:49

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:46

Not quite...

Go on...

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:50

Ok here's one example. Females can be convicted for rape. amp.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/17/sarahhall

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:50

Ok @Rainbowshit being an actuary is so different for the stats used by government

exwhyzed · 22/12/2022 22:50

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:49

@Merrilydancing this is one of the reasons the GRA was implemented. if people can misidentify then we end up with criminality

Again... huh?

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:51

@Rainbowshit what's your actual problem with trans people?

lifeinthelastlane · 22/12/2022 22:52

I have no time for someone who has said they aren't comfortable getting changed out with a cubicle, but is happy for every elderly woman in the country who needs Intimate care to have no choice about having a man provide it.

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:53

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:50

Ok @Rainbowshit being an actuary is so different for the stats used by government

In what way? Go on explain. This should be interesting.

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:54

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:50

Ok here's one example. Females can be convicted for rape. amp.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/17/sarahhall

Ok but that's English law?

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:55

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:51

@Rainbowshit what's your actual problem with trans people?

Ah this is because you have been caught out. LMAO.

I'd have no problem at all women's rights were not being destroyed.

lifeinthelastlane · 22/12/2022 22:56

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 22:50

Ok here's one example. Females can be convicted for rape. amp.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/17/sarahhall

One essential requirement for a woman in Scotland to be convicted of rape, is the presence of a man with a penis who she is encouraging (joint venture) - without the penis-owner there is no rape. So this isn't much of a "gotcha".

Well presumably this changes after self ID if the police don't record actual sex. Hell in a handcart.

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 22:59

Ok @Rainbowshit the Scottish government has a very different perspective on law and governance from Westminster. Stemming from Scots law and a separation of education and religion from English law.
If you are happy to discuss this pleas elucidate.

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 23:01

Oh FFS. Such ignorance. Ok here's a Scottish case.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-56014279.amp

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 23:04

@lifeinthelastlane I'm not using it as a "gotcha". I happen to think truth matters and saying 100% of people in prison for rape is just not true.

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 23:04

@Rainbowshit this is absolutely nothing to do with trans people
Please spend some time away from dealing with this you re obsessed

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 23:04

Rainbowshit · 22/12/2022 23:04

@lifeinthelastlane I'm not using it as a "gotcha". I happen to think truth matters and saying 100% of people in prison for rape is just not true.

100% In prison for rape are male is not true.

BinBandit · 22/12/2022 23:05

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 21:40

I'm sorry @BinBandit but people in Scotland just dont really mind so much about trans stuff.
They just don't.
We still need to fight male violence wherever it occurs.
It might be good to look around and think about how much time has been wasted on this tiny issue. It's been a fabulous distraction from the relentless tide of mysoginistic murder and violence.
Let's get together in solidarity against male violence. Don't be a fool for this divisive nonsense. Fight violence wherever it occurs against women or those who identify as women.

Who are you calling a fool? It's not nonsense, you just need to educate yourself rather than be sturgeon and harvie's mouthpiece. This is not popular in Scotland other than in mouthy activist groups and the uneducated.

Kiwimommyinlondon · 22/12/2022 23:05

promisetobehave · 22/12/2022 18:44

I'm really pleased this has passed. I personally know two trans people one who is a woman and one who is a man. They have children and are happily married and pose no threat whatever to anyone. I only wish them happiness and celebrate with them today.

Have you lost your mind? Talk about selling out women and girls. So bloody insulting.

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