Referendum

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How do you think it will go? Appreciate its only just been announced but gut instinct?

You’d have to be a half wit to vote yes with no details, just yelling braveheart and leaping off a cliff

Do you think NS is hoping for a Tory leader that will allow a referendum or one that won't?

If we get one that won't, I'd have thought that suits her needs best.

I sincerely hope there isn't a single Conservative Leadership candidate who would grant her another referendum. It is the Conservative and Unionist Party after all.

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us well no, NS is leader of the Scottish National Party...independence is their main aim. Never understood why people think it's so unreasonable that she/they would want independence...they'd be a pretty shoddy nationalist party if they just forgot about it.

Well they are getting paid by us to run the country, not spend all their time on independence. That should be the role for the Chair/exec of the party (Murrell), not the folk supposed to be running the government.

The last thing Ms Sturgeon wants is independence

I was actually being sarcastic, but it’s a good point - they are elected primarily to run Scotland’s services rather than bang on about constitutional matters because that’s what the Scottish Government is responsible for. The constitution is outwith their remit (as their own law officers apparently know) so while they may put it in their manifesto really they have no more right/power to push for independence than my local council has to lobby for Russia to pull out of Ukraine (obviously they haven’t actually done this, this would be outwith their remit too and a criminal waste of tax payers money).

I guess I was musing (apparently too subtly) about what Nicola will complain about now that Boris is off, since she can barely mention independence without his name in the same sentence. If big bad Westminster gets rid of the boogey man all on its own, and more still if the Tories are out soon (as they probably will be), what does the case for independence pivot to now?

a lot of interesting points in there

Interesting letter in support of independence by independence supporter. “Proud Scot”, and activist

These letters ( varieties on same theme) are available off an Independence site but miss out the fact that UK defence and foreign affairs etc are not included .

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/no-scottish-independence-referendum-for-at-least-a-decade-two-tory-leadership-contenders-say-3762845

The SNP put something in their manifesto that they don’t have the power to enact, then they have a huff when they cannot enact it.

Westminster as saying no cause we cannot keep having referendum after referendum until the SNP get the result they want. That would be bad for Scotland. Scotland needs time out to work on other issues (in between the endless referendums). Like sorting out SNHS, or providing a stable business environment to allow businesses to invest and thrive, or improving education and proving it by rejoining the PISA international rankings and showing progress, sorting out the ferries etc.

Perhaps if the SNP showed that a party with an independence mindset was capable of running a country well they might attract more voters to the Yes cause. Until then we rumble on in a Groundhog Day of hyped up grievance and inaction on improving the day to day lives of the residents of Scotland.

Well put @Mousemat25 . Sedition should be illegal in the UK like it is in other European countries.

Westminster as saying no cause we cannot keep having referendum after referendum until the SNP get the result they want.

Perhaps if the SNP showed that a party with an independence mindset was capable of running a country well they might attract more voters to the Yes cause.

This.

The SNP and their followers do not respect democracy despite what they say. Scotland voted to stay in the UK then the UK decided to leave the EU. Simple. What part of this do they not understand?

blah blah blah mandate blah blah material change blah blah Toaries and Boris blah blah Westmonsters.

Sick to the back teeth of it already.

Sums it up @KnittingNeedles

Well put - what’s the Nats answer to this ?

probably that all these problems will magically disappear when all the levers can be pulled - and unfortunately that’s the mindset of the average Nat .

as I’ve said before the IMF will be in the room if they get the chance to pull those levers and it won’t be pretty .