Here we go again with the Rangers fans.

[forfucksakenett]

So irresponsible. Here we go again. Will Glasgow ever be out of lockdown?

This thread is depressing proof that anti Irish and anti Irish bigotry is alive and well!

Anti catholic

Celtic fans do not have a reputation for being just as bad. We are welcomed round europe with open arms. 80,000 of us went to Seville and lost with one arrest. And there was none of that behaviour, I was there.

Again I was at trongate waiting for the victory bus when we won a treble treble in 2019. We waited hours and then police Scotland cancelled it as there were too many people. The crowd dispersed with no hassle. Agreed there was drinking in the street and there was rubbish , but not on that scale and no destruction.

Have I heard sectarian language from Celtic supporters? Yes I have. I disagree with it on either side. And there are bound to be a few idiots that identify as supporters. So I’m not suggesting all Celtic supporters are saints at all.

Do we have a systematic problem at the root of the club and support identity that draws and encourages this type of behaviour towards us? Absolutely not.

We are not half of anything. And we are sick of being made out to be half of someone else’s problem.

@RJnomore1

Celtic fans do not have a reputation for being just as bad. We are welcomed round europe with open arms. 80,000 of us went to Seville and lost with one arrest. And there was none of that behaviour, I was there.

Again I was at trongate waiting for the victory bus when we won a treble treble in 2019. We waited hours and then police Scotland cancelled it as there were too many people. The crowd dispersed with no hassle. Agreed there was drinking in the street and there was rubbish , but not on that scale and no destruction.

Have I heard sectarian language from Celtic supporters? Yes I have. I disagree with it on either side. And there are bound to be a few idiots that identify as supporters. So I’m not suggesting all Celtic supporters are saints at all.

Do we have a systematic problem at the root of the club and support identity that draws and encourages this type of behaviour towards us? Absolutely not.

We are not half of anything. And we are sick of being made out to be half of someone else’s problem.

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I'm saying having different faith schools could be divisive.
That applies to all schools, imv, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, etcetc
I gather that people want to keep them - saying it can be divisive isn't anti Catholic it's anti faith schools.

@Quincie

I'm saying having different faith schools could be divisive. That applies to all schools, imv, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, etcetc I gather that people want to keep them - saying it can be divisive isn't anti Catholic it's anti faith schools.

This thread is about the violent criminal behaviour of Rangers supporters.

How is that connected to faith schools?

Great post RJ

Sorry, Celtic is one half of the Old Firm. Which is what brings the money and revenue to Scottish Football and the economy. The financial analysis is out there. The other clubs’ finances are dire in terms of revenue (except maybe Aberdeen), that financial analysis is also out there.

You’re deluded if you think a Celtic Vs. St Johnstone match (for example) is going to generate anywhere near 50m for the economy.

There’s talk of the British Super League at the moment, & they want Celtic AND Rangers to join. Because those two teams, the Old Firm rivalry, is what spikes the interest and therefore the money.

I think Quincie's baiting.

These discussions always go the same way.
A. People not interested in football who have a general feel for it all eg. The old firm fans are knuckle dragging neds who are usually scum. So they tar both old firm teams the same as they dont know what they are actually talking about.
B. Real fans who go to games and follow their team and can talk about what the differences in fans behaviour is as they know their subject.

Albless I meant to write earlier- I'm really sorry your son had to witness Saturday's destruction. He must have been frightened really. Glad he got home safely.

So basically the gist I get from this thread - sectarianism is OK as long as its not anti Catholic.

FFS this is why the West Coast of Scotland is still living in the dark ages!

Hate won't solve this problem. Too many Rangers fans were out of control this weekend and what goes around comes around and I hope they bloody pay for it.

Maybe Celtic fans are not as bad as Rangers, but they are bred on hate the exact same.
But yeah, continue burying heads in the sand and continue teaching your kids hate.

I miss so much about home, but thank fuck my children don't have to put up with this shit.

So much is wrong with England but they are so much more tolerant being brought up here with diversity than they would with all this sectarian shite.

Yes exactly @ssd

Can see a fair few A's in this thread.

I'm saying having different faith schools could be divisive.
That applies to all schools, imv, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, etcetc
I gather that people want to keep them - saying it can be divisive isn't anti Catholic it's anti faith schools.

That's not what you said though, you specifically referred to Catholic schools and suggested that it was only middle class children that attended them not, in your words, "rough children".

I'm assuming that you're not actually Scottish to be honest, if you were you'd likely not be referring to schools as 'local comps' as we don't have them here. You'd also be more likely to be aware that in the Scottish curriculum, even non-denominational schools are required to observe a specified number of religious holidays and festivals. This can be for any religion but in practice is often Christian based and most non-denominational schools have links to a particular church nearby and their Chaplin/Minister will visit the school regularly throughout the year to led prayers at these times. This is almost no different to Catholic schools having their local priest lead masses in school or in the local church with the school attending. Catholic schools also teach about other religions, same as non-denominational schools, and are full of children of all and even no faiths. In fact, a number of Catholic schools in and around Glasgow have paired up with a local non-denominational school to work together to develop relationships between the children across the schools via joint curricular programmes and activities. So where's the division caused by Catholic (or any faith) schools that leads to the kind of sectarian violence demonstrated by rangers fans in George Square at the weekend?

@Morgan12

Yes exactly *@ssd*

Can see a fair few A's in this thread.

Aye, mostly As here.

...who would be amazed at families like me, football daft, gone to games since they could walk but kept away from old firm games as long as possible...wore strips out to play for years, still mad supporters, graduates, decent clever boys who have grown into decent men. Eg. Everything the As think an old firm fan could never be.

That was for @Quincie btw

As an ex pupil of Holyrood I can confirm it was very diverse ( mind you that was hundreds of years ago)

Celtic fans have never done what the rangers fans did last weekend. 15000 out marching through the town to George Square? Never ever ever. And do you know why? Because they wouldn't show Celtic up like that. Of course theres a fair few utter bampots calling themselves fans in both sides who want to get drunk and fight and cause mayhem. But march through town, in a pandemic, cause fear and spread aggression whilst singing what theyd like to do to the pope and catholics, 15000 of them!!

And with a police escort as well.

And I understand my old RC primary is now attended by mainly non -RCs

Holyrood is still as diverse, i know lots of kids there. And they'd sell their granny to get into St Ninians round here.

As a Glaswegian, Saturday's carnage was a complete and utter embarrassment for our city. Once again, Catholics had to tolerate hearing their anti Catholic bile. If the morons had been singing about how much they hate black people or Muslims, there would have been a far greater outcry. Decent Glaswegians are fucking sick of it.

I cant imagine how it would have gone if 15000 Celtic fans had been singing about killing protestants and eff the Queen. There would have been an outcry and condemnation in Westminster, with boris making speeches and being utterly appalled.

I mean, can you imagine

I'm in Scotland, Scottish but have lived in different parts of the U.K. and abroad.

• obviously separate schools are wanted and will stay.

If nothing changes the problems will continue.

The problem isn't the schools, the problem is how these people have been raised

I agree SSD the whole country would have been horrified

@Quincie

I'm in Scotland, Scottish but have lived in different parts of the U.K. and abroad.

• obviously separate schools are wanted and will stay.

If nothing changes the problems will continue.

Give it a rest

Where I live they're not "separate schools". They're choices for many

In my suburban street the children go to about 5 different primaries and three different secondaries