Here we go again with the Rangers fans.

[forfucksakenett]

So irresponsible. Here we go again. Will Glasgow ever be out of lockdown?

Catholics make up about 13 per cent of the population of Scotland, so very much a minority.

We are not "divided". A minority group is repeatedly targetted for hateful abuse on the basis of their religion. HTH.

Scotland is very much united against the racist neanderthals.

They may be a minority group but their football team is very prominent. Possibly making them more aggravating to the opposition.
Why send your DCs to a Catholic School if you aren't Catholic - was it a better school? If Catholic Schools are 'better' then that is going to be a bone of contention.
I'm not trying to pick a fight - I'm furious that this behaviour goes on and on. Especially as the anti Catholics mostly aren't remotely religious. It's an excuse to cause trouble, be nasty, often in the guise of lads having a bit of harmless fun. But everyone just wrings their hands.
I guess SNP would lose votes is a large part of teh problem.
They need to ban the supporters from Rangers matches. Use CCTV etc. Force them to change.

@Quincie

If you started mixed schools from nursery level and continue right through. Good Football training clubs for boys of both religions mixed - any sectarianism and you are out. ??

All our football clubs are already mixed

@Quincie

They may be a minority group but their football team is very prominent. Possibly making them more aggravating to the opposition. Why send your DCs to a Catholic School if you aren't Catholic - was it a better school? If Catholic Schools are 'better' then that is going to be a bone of contention. I'm not trying to pick a fight - I'm furious that this behaviour goes on and on. Especially as the anti Catholics mostly aren't remotely religious. It's an excuse to cause trouble, be nasty, often in the guise of lads having a bit of harmless fun. But everyone just wrings their hands. I guess SNP would lose votes is a large part of teh problem. They need to ban the supporters from Rangers matches. Use CCTV etc. Force them to change.

Hell would freeze over before anyone in The Union Bears would vote for the SNP. The clues in the name.

Yes hence Murdo Fraser defending it

Wake up - this is not an SNP loses votes thing

There would be riots in the streets if they tried to really tackle it, that is the basic problem. Because they are thugs.

I sent my DC to a catholic primary for lots of reasons

Good ethos, small classes, convenient location.

Due to working parents and placing requests children's attendance at schools are more fluid and more mixed

So going back to the earlier discussion- I suppose it's not true that there is no political dimension at all to it...but I fail to see how it is the fault of the SNP.

I was wondering how long it would be before the Catholic schools got the blame. Interesting that there are Catholic schools the world over but they’re only a problem in Scotland. Anyone can go to Catholic schools in Scotland, you do not need to be Catholic and they teach about all religions and respect for all religions. The hate is taught at home. The only good thing to come out of Saturday is that Politicians are suddenly calling it for what it is, which is anti Catholic and anti Irish hate, and it goes way beyond the Rangers fans. Usually it’s branded as “sectarianism” and the old chestnut “they’re both as bad as each other” and does not address the real issues. Hell, Paramedics and Nurses attending to the injured on Saturday were getting physically and verbally abused because they were wearing green uniforms!

@Morgan12

Honestly saying the two sides are as bad as each other is blatantly ignoring the long history of Irish Catholic oppression within this country. The two sides are absolutely not as bad as each other. Not even close.

They are allowed to parade the streets ffs. They burn Catholic effigies every bonfire night.

And I can all but guarantee that none of them, not a single one, will have ever left the name of their high school off of their CV so people don't know they are Catholic.

It's actually ridiculous what they get away with and I really really hope that Saturday has opened peoples eyes to this and hopefully we start to see changes. But I highly doubt it. Because the anti Catholic hatred in this country is systematic and goes right to the top.

So please stop commenting on this thread saying celtic are as bad if you actually don't know anything about this fight. Because we are absolutely not as bad as them. Nowhere near it.

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Another one who was wondering how the leap was made from a minority of rangers football fans being violent to catholic schools in Scotland being at fault.

I will hand on heart admit that I don’t understand the need for separate schools as in my mind it creates unnecessary difference.

I don’t think they are prevalent outside of the west of Scotland and there was absolutely none where I come from, but also where I come from there is no sectarianism.

Now I am in no way correlating the two just don’t understand the need especially if it is only in the west but happy to be corrected on that one.

Still does not excuse the atrocious behaviour on display on Saturday night.

I don't live in the west

We have catholic, nondenominational and one episcopalian school

Anyone can go to any of them. They don't create divide. They create choice

A lot of defence for Catholic schools - seems a bit odd for non catholics to be defending them.
Why not have secular schools instead of faith based.

I’m not attacking them just don’t see the point of separate schools especially based on religion especially as plenty of areas manage perfectly well with just the one school.

But this is not my fight and as I said up thread, I really don’t know what the answer to sectarianism is.

Faith schools are not exclusive to Scotland. There are many Church of England schools but Catholic schooling in Scotland is called out for being divisive. The only reason I can see for this is because the Orange order March through the streets of Glasgow, the City where the 2 major football clubs are. Rangers fans burned their scarves when a Catholic was signed to play for them because they had a policy which banned the signing of a Catholic. Celtic never had any such policy and signed players of all faiths but was formed by a Catholic priest to help the poor in the east end of the city. So historically it's not the schooling that divides the City. Why then should every time sectarianism raises it's ugly head are Catholic schools caught in the fall out.

Being a Catholic isn't the problem. Attending a Catholic school isn't the problem. Having Catholic schools isn't the problem.

Hatred of catholics is the problem. And I'm fairly certain that this is taught at home.

Canadian living in Scotland... we have catholic schools in Canada. They even have their own school board. There is no sectarianism there. So it's got fuck all to do with catholic schools.

As an immigrant to this country but married to a Scot with Scots/Canadian children, the divide and hatred disgusts me. It's the number one thing I dislike about this amazing and beautiful country.
Hate is taught at home not in school.

Wanted to add, I'm in the west of Scotland.

@Morgan12

Being a Catholic isn't the problem. Attending a Catholic school isn't the problem. Having Catholic schools isn't the problem.

Hatred of catholics is the problem. And I'm fairly certain that this is taught at home.

It's the ultimate in victim blaming

I don't care what religion people choose to follow

I don't care what school people choose to send their kids to

I do care about hatred though

“Hate is taught at home not in school.”
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Peter Lawwell's house was petrol bombed overnight. His daughter and young granddaughter were staying with him.

I have no words for how angry this makes me.

I had to google who he was

That's despicable

I wonder how the "what about" posters will twist that round to blame the school he went to