Feel depressed about the future

[Hobnob39]

The election results have made me feel really bluuuuerrgh.
I HATED the divisiveness of indyref1, I don't want another referendum. I want our government to do a better day job, but independence is going to be the focus until it happens now isn't it? I don't want independence for the same reasons I didn't want Brexit - I feel we shouldn't be dividing ourselves off into ever smaller parochial wee groups who all think we are somehow better than everyone else. It's enough to make me want to move... my DH is English and he wants to, but I have resisted, but it's getting harder to explain why. The only problem I have though is that I see the results in England and feel they as bad - I don't understand why people who are shafted by the Tory party are the ones voting for them! I just do know where I belong now. It feels to me that Scotland is stuck with SNP and England stuck with Tory, and I'm adrift as I don't feel either represent me. Anyone else?

@Bytheloch

Mandatory Strip The Willow lessons at school in the lead up, instructions on their free laptop. After their free breakfast, Children will cycle in on their free bikes to perform the dance in George Square on the day. Free Irn Bru on tap, the sugar free version for all indoors to celebrate the day. Full sugar version-until 8pm- for those adults seated outside at one of the four hospitality venues that survived the recovery period.

Sigh. It’s the dream.

Pathetic.

Being a Unionist seems a right barrel of laughs. Don't seem to like anything

@happygolurkey

Being a Unionist seems a right barrel of laughs. Don't seem to like anything

100% this

@Bytheloch

Christ alive, that sounds like a scene from a Hallmark movie🙈

Food stalls on the corners selling porridge and stovies, no doubt. Our heroine has red etc. That kind of thing.

My second cringe of the day.

I love stovies And porridge actually.

@Bytheloch 😂😂

And the sheep head broth bubbles, and herring marinade gently, before a rousing chorus of Donald Where’s your Troosers? completes the day

Nyx people are free to do all the Gaelic singing, highland dancing and pipe banding they like. The cringe comes when they get rolled into symbols of a shared nationalist vision - that we don’t share.

Smoked salmon, Aberdeen Angus beef, Loch Fyne shellfish, Orkney fudge, Durness chocolates. Yum. All followed by a dram of course ;)

I do love Orkney fudge but can’t find it anywhere!

And im not going to Orkney 🤣

I don't get what you mean though. You said "reinvented, reimagined, reconstructed past and nationhood. A story we tell ourselves". What is reinvented or reimagined, as opposed to what you would say is the truth?

Sorry, that was to @ATieLikeRichardGere

@Nyx we could take the pipe band as an example and it’s origins in the British Army and its relationship to the Commonwealth. That’s the sort of thing I’m getting at.

Oh God the idea of an Independence Day celebration has just pushed me further to The No side. Could you imagine?🙈

And by the way I love kilts and a ceillidh and pipe bands etc.

Alex Salmond and Iain Blackford in the wrong type of ill fitting kilt for the occasion. 🙈🙈

[quote ATieLikeRichardGere]@Nyx we could take the pipe band as an example and it’s origins in the British Army and its relationship to the Commonwealth. That’s the sort of thing I’m getting at.[/quote]
So? Nobody has denied that. Nobody is or will deny Scotland's history with Britain. Nobody is planning to tip it into any memory hole or anything like that. Pipe bands are still a particularly Scottish thing. Just because it originates from something British doesn't mean it isn't Scottish. Scotland is part of Britain. You don't seem to get that we aren't denying that. You are so busy telling us that we all hate the English, you think that we want to be enemies. We don't. We want to be neighbours and friends.

Scottish culture is still Scottish culture.

@Nyx

I don't get what you mean though. You said "reinvented, reimagined, reconstructed past and nationhood. A story we tell ourselves". What is reinvented or reimagined, as opposed to what you would say is the truth?

Well in fairness... that’s exactly what the stereotypical vision of Scottishness is, you can blame the victorians for it.

Most of it isn’t really traditional at all.

@Graffitiqueen

Alex Salmond and Iain Blackford in the wrong type of ill fitting kilt for the occasion. 🙈🙈

Well now there’s a vision that would burn my eyeballs.

Btw, I too like traditional music, love a good ceilidh and kilts- when not worn by the aforementioned- are wonderful dress. See, us unionists can enjoy life too

I didn’t say anything about how you all the English.

I maintain that presenting and celebrating these symbols forms part of a project of reimagining, and that that is something which makes me, personally, cringe.

So @ATieLikeRichardGere, what do you feel would be suitable for a celebration of Scotland, by Scotland?

@ATieLikeRichardGere

I didn’t say anything about how you all the English.

I maintain that presenting and celebrating these symbols forms part of a project of reimagining, and that that is something which makes me, personally, cringe.

I guess you're not a fan of Highland Games then.

It's utterly depressing how these discussions always turn out.

Why can't some people accept that a massively uncertain financial future really isn't something to look forward to for some of us?

A great big tartan parade to celebrate, yeah cos I will really feel like celebrating when having to pack up and leave the country I love as our jobs get relocated. Yup I’ll be loving that big old party.

The very thought of an Independence day fills me with dread. It's been a while since I've had any kids in school but it really annoyed me when they made a holiday of Saint Andrews day, always had to bloody juggle childcare anyway but it was the fact it was an extra day off in winter when the weather was always awful and the kids rarely did much (except have to find tartan to dress up in the day before the holiday)

@Applesky

The very thought of an Independence day fills me with dread. It's been a while since I've had any kids in school but it really annoyed me when they made a holiday of Saint Andrews day, always had to bloody juggle childcare anyway but it was the fact it was an extra day off in winter when the weather was always awful and the kids rarely did much (except have to find tartan to dress up in the day before the holiday)

That's the first I've heard of schools shut on St Andrew's Day! What council?

Where is St Andrew's Day a holiday? Some years it's an inservice day where I teach and where DDs attended but not always. So that must be a local authority decision not national.