Rangers fans celebrating in a pandemic

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No social distancing at all, few masks in sight. Apparently at least 1000 outside ibrox , hundreds in George square.

Total superspreader events, even outside. The new viruses are much easier to catch.

Bloody great.

bellacaledonia.org.uk/2021/03/08/archie-oprah-and-the-battle-for-george-square/

I live in Dundee now. I couldn’t believe the difference.

Dundee and Dundee United supporters go to the same pubs as each other. Have a bit of banter before and after the game. But that’s it.

Jesus this whole rangers vs celtic thing is ridiculous. Both clubs are a disgrace and riddled with sectarianism and bigotry. They are as bad as each other.

The behavior yesterday was outrageous but I reckon the gers can get off their high horses after recent scenes outside Celtic Park.

As with all there are some lovely fans who are just there for the game.

The government should have been more vocal prior to this, they have failed miserably by being quiet because everyone with half a brain cell new how it was going to go. There are probably alot that could have been done to attempt to stop but I suspect a heavy handed approach would have resulted in riots.

I would put money on riots on the 21st and think it has to be cancelled. It probably won't be though.

@Lolastarsandstripe

I live in Dundee now. I couldn’t believe the difference.

Dundee and Dundee United supporters go to the same pubs as each other. Have a bit of banter before and after the game. But that’s it.

Moving to Glasgow to living on the same street as two rival clubs blew my mind. I just had no idea that was possible and that there weren’t full on riots every weekend.

I think I lost braincells typing that. My grammar is shocking, must pay attention whilst typing.

[quote StarryEyeSurprise]bellacaledonia.org.uk/2021/03/08/archie-oprah-and-the-battle-for-george-square/[/quote]
The extrapolation in that article is hysterical . We get it. He really really really wants an independent Scotland. Unionism and England are bad, Scottish nationalism is good.

Wonders if he wrote such a pompous, straining to the far side of recent history article when Celtic fans were protesting or Liverpool fans were celebrating? Nah. Rangers fans were all closet racists, fascist, islamophobe, brexit supporting, Nazi, KKK fans.

@audweb yeah, when United has a big game, fans would sometimes come in with tangerine coloured ties and bows in their hair. And it was allowed: no big deal

I don't understand the constant comparisons to Celtic.

Firstly how does that in any way undo what went on last night?

Secondly, maybe two hundred Celtic fans turns up and protested at the club. This was completely wrong to do so in a pandemic but I don't see how it's comparable to over 1000 causing damage to memorials and vandalising public spaces 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don’t understand why the immediate response to something is - oh but the other side did something some other time, they’re just as bad.

Aye, they are. and? What’s your point? That that makes it ok? Because that’s what it sounds like.

If fans of something I was a supporter of, or involved with behaved like that, I’d be agreeing that it’s awful, not trying to think up examples of times other people behaved like that to justify it

The comparison shouldn’t be the other teams fans, it should just be decent behaviour.

My point was solely that rangers fans should pip down about the scenes at celtic park in the same way celtic can't really say that rangers fans behaved in a way they wouldn't have last night.

Fans from neither side will cop to being as bad as each other.

It was in response to other comments though and as I said the behaviour last night was abhorrent.

snowcoveredcampsies
Exactly

I think it's because if you don't always qualify that Celtic fans are just as bad as Rangers fans (and there's no list of comparable incidents) then you shine a massive light on the real problem...which is a group of immigrants coming over to another country and the natives not liking it, for centuries.

You only have to look at the hangers on in an orange order parade to see the sea of rangers strips.

But we must not link the two. They are separate!

Both are as bad as each other... That's the narrative!

@snowcoveredcampsies

I don't understand the constant comparisons to Celtic.

Firstly how does that in any way undo what went on last night?

Secondly, maybe two hundred Celtic fans turns up and protested at the club. This was completely wrong to do so in a pandemic but I don't see how it's comparable to over 1000 causing damage to memorials and vandalising public spaces 🤷🏻‍♀️

I wouldn’t minimise it to 200 try thousands . www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6340757/celtic-fans-lennon-hundreds-protest-parkhead/

Nobody needs to cop to anything. There's actual evidence of which team's fans cause the most carnage / damage and neutral observers can form their own opinions using that.

@Peppafrig the headline of article you shared quite literally says hundreds

[quote snowcoveredcampsies]@Peppafrig the headline of article you shared quite literally says hundreds [/quote]
The actual headline of the article says thousands of angry fans yes the link says hundreds bit the headline says thousands

But then strangely in the body of the article and the photos it's back to hundreds.

You'll note that none of the photos are of damaged memorials.

Fair enough. I'm neutral so I'm not going to argue my point of view - it really doesn't matter what I think towards both teams tbh. And I agree with you on Rangers issues with Celtic and the deep-rooted hatred is quite vile.

Last night was shocking but I do fear the 21st is going to be carnage and quite honestly potentially violent. I would like to see it cancelled or moved without pre-disclosure of grounds.

@snowcoveredcampsies

But then strangely in the body of the article and the photos it's back to hundreds.

You'll note that none of the photos are of damaged memorials.

No you are right it was just police officers that were attacked even they weren’t stupid enough to damage their own park. It was the team bus for the players and police officers they were after.

Police officers were attacked last night according to the arrest sheet. You know last night when Rangers fans, and not fans of any other teams, generally wrecked stuffed and were horrible.

Come on folks, don't give Peffafrig a hard time - the Sun is a renowned bastion of objective, accurate journalism.

Do you know @WhiskyIrnBru is really right about all this. It's so unsavoury. It does go much deeper than just football.

Yes and...

Many of the Rangers supporters groups on twitter were keen fans to attend the Loyalist Defence League protests where they attacked Black Life Matters protesters and protected statues...

Let's not pretend rangers and their 'groups' are in a position to take any moral high ground...

Whataboutery.

Rangers fans cannot take the moral stance on anything.

The behaviour of many fans this weekend was abhorrent.

But it does not mean that Rangers are the only problem in Glasgow.

The bigotry on this thread is actually shocking.

Snookie I was in Liverpool the weekend they were celebrating (2?) years ago. It was a carnival atmosphere. Amazing.

The hooligans destroying the memorial benches in George Square - well, let's not pretend they'd welcome others with open arms. I'm quite sure a large faction of them will be the same that were battering anyone they felt like this past summer in George Square and the day after the 2014 referendum, they were giving nazi salutes whilst singing Rule Britannia.
One of the WATP mob came up to me and shouted complete obscenities in my face so aggressively (I wasn't in George Square itself but one of the roads near it) that I just had to turn back and phoned a taxi instead of going to the train station.

No, not all Rangers fans are like this. Not even most are. A tiny amount. But it's shameful and I say this as someone who has a cousin that toured with Rangers around Europe. He was gutted as they'd done so much good work in the places they'd visited and then, in Manchester, all that good will was destroyed in a night.

I'd quite happily see the hooligans dealt with much more severely. I remember reading about the incident in the summer when a reporter of Chinese origin ran to the police as the people there were going to batter him and their response was, 'Well ,you shouldn't be here.' And of course, the peaceful BLM group were told to leave for their own safety. Makes me sick that this goes on in our biggest city. Why is it that everyone else has to accept that the city centre's a no go area if certain events are on like the orange walk? We all know that the walk's followed by people that are drunk on Buckfast by the morning.

I had a lovely incident where a group of young lads started on me as I was on the phone to my hubbie near Kelvingrove Park. My crime was that I said to him that they'd started drinking already. I didn't know they could hear me but it became quite clear when they said, "What the f are you saying you b*." I had to leg it down to Woodlands Rd as they were so aggressive and my husband came to meet me. So, nope. No where near the city centre is really ok on march days.

Oh and I'm not saying they don't exist but I lived near the centre / West End for years and never saw anything other than an orange walk

Yes a very unsavory past at both clubs . The cover up of officials at Celtic towards them poor innocent boys abused at Celtic boys club . Such a stain on Scottish history. That can never be forgotten.