Rangers fans celebrating in a pandemic

[ssd]

No social distancing at all, few masks in sight. Apparently at least 1000 outside ibrox , hundreds in George square.

Total superspreader events, even outside. The new viruses are much easier to catch.

Bloody great.

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I know plenty of old firm fans that are lovely people. Unfortunately the whole thing is so tainted by hate and violence.^

When you move away from it all you definitely realise how pathetic it is.

This weekend aside, which is a combination of many things I believe, I think that more and more people are realising how pathetic it all is.

And that includes many of the fans. Progress is slow, but it is being made.

Are you seriously suggesting that rangers fans have faced the years of discrimination that those of Irish background have in Glasgow?

Seriously? Have you ever been spat on in your school uniform?

Asked what school you went to in a job interview knowing it would lose you the job?

No blacks, no dogs, no Irish?

Go read about it. You're deluded.

Rangers fans and protestants in general in Glasgow have NEVER faced the hatred and discrimination that Catholics and those of Irish background have faced.

Laughable.

@WhiskyIrnBru

Are you seriously suggesting that rangers fans have faced the years of discrimination that those of Irish background have in Glasgow?

Seriously? Have you ever been spat on in your school uniform?

Asked what school you went to in a job interview knowing it would lose you the job?

No blacks, no dogs, no Irish?

Go read about it. You're deluded.

Rangers fans and protestants in general in Glasgow have NEVER faced the hatred and discrimination that Catholics and those of Irish background have faced.

Laughable.

Totally agree, I live in Lanarkshire and it was well known that several local companies wouldn't interview you never mind employ you if you'd gone to a Catholic school. Never heard of it being the other way around.

@WhiskyIrnBru

Are you seriously suggesting that rangers fans have faced the years of discrimination that those of Irish background have in Glasgow?

Seriously? Have you ever been spat on in your school uniform?

Asked what school you went to in a job interview knowing it would lose you the job?

No blacks, no dogs, no Irish?

Go read about it. You're deluded.

Rangers fans and protestants in general in Glasgow have NEVER faced the hatred and discrimination that Catholics and those of Irish background have faced.

Laughable.

I was referencing the 10 years as to why there's a hatred towards other clubs.

I'm not for one minimising the shit that goes on, but removing football will not change that, it's one outlet for it, not the only one, those that are that ingrained with it won't change and will continue their hatred.

The majority of old firm fans are not like this, they will give each other as good as they get whilst the match is on and then normal life resumes, slag each other over fb - with their FRIENDS and it is done in good humour. HOWEVER there will always be the bigots, same as there will always be racists, homophobes etc - don't tar everyone with the same brush

Exactly. It was common. The handshakes etc. There were some trades/companies that would not employ catholics.

Remember, Rangers had a no catholic players policy until 1989 too...

I mean, you just have to look at the comments about Gerrard when he was signed as manager...his daughter Lourdes...etc.

So this distancing by rangers fans to any mention of sectarianism is a joke.

For everyone and anyone...except Irish/ catholics/both...

ladylunchalot
Totally agree, I live in Lanarkshire and it was well known that several local companies wouldn't interview you never mind employ you if you'd gone to a Catholic school. Never heard of it being the other way around.

100%

I'm not for one minimising the shit that goes on, but removing football will not change that, it's one outlet for it, not the only one, those that are that ingrained with it won't change and will continue their hatred.

But at least I could sit on a train on a Saturday without thinking I might die in an accident while grown men jump up and down en masses for a laugh

@MoreMorelos

Not angry and no chequered history, we are top of the world at the moment and no daft comments will bring us down, as the saying goes "no one likes us, we don't care". Have a nice day

"We". "Us"

I agree with Whisky

Pathetic.

@WhiskyIrnBru

MoreMorelos.

How embarrassing. Your blue tinted specs are tainting everything.

Your club is rife with hate and bigotry.

'You are the people.' You believe you are better than Catholics and those of Irish descent.

That's a fact.

You sing about the famine and how those of Irish descent should go on home. Being up to knees in 'Fenian blood'

Absolute Whataboutery.
The fact is rangers and their ilk consistently cause trouble and your club consistently ignores it.

Other clubs aren't perfect but there isn't the level of hatred and bigotry that rangers fans have for...well...anyone who isn't them.

And yes, I have had first hand experience.When I was 9 I was spat on by a guy in a rangers trip for being a 'fenian b*stard'. My crime was wearing my catholic school uniform on a bus.

So sorry if I don't feel any sympathy for poor rangers fans being victimised for celebrating.

And I have a family member who will spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair for wearing a rangers top in a the wrong street. He got stabbed for being a “dirty hun” A young mans life ruined for supporting a football team and walking down the street. It’s disgusting from both sides.

You are minimising it. This whole thread you have said 'but Celtic ...but whatabout...'

You've implied fans are just out celebrating and it's their right. During a pandemic where people have been forced to miss loved ones funerals!!!

10 years ago rangers got liquidated and what? That give people the right to be angry and destroy benches in George Square and breach the rules many have been fined for less.

Rangers fans behaviour proceeds them. Ask Manchester. They have been true to form because there is no consequences, not from the club, not from the police.

Unless you can take a step back and see the context without the bias nothing will ever change.

And as an aside, I was extremely critical of Celtic fans who turned up at park head in October. Interesting to see how differently the police dealt with that though...kettlebelling and barriers...no police escorts there...

I never said it was their right, I said it was always going to happen.

But anyway, no point in going around in circles is there, I'm off to enjoy the sunshine while I can. Enjoy your day

Football (and sports) fans celebrate when their team wins the league especially one as significant as this to many rangers fans and its naive at best to think that they won’t join together to share the experience.

Link below to Liverpool fans celebrating in the same way last summer. It’s what’s people have always done share a collective joy. The Covid pandemic won’t stop that.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-merseyside-53191406

As per usual, the thread has descended into Rangers fans and Celtic fans arguing about who's better behaved.

Fucks sake, the sooner this tribal nonsense is a thing of the past the better.

And for what it's worth, they're all as bad as each other.

@ssd
It’s not snobbery disliking the old firm. It’s due to the outdated, bigoted views of a minority of fans on both sides. If that element didn’t exist then they would go up in my estimations. I also dislike any other football teams that bring the game into disrepute.

If anyone wants more examples of how what happened yesterday is not due to Rangers fans behaving differently to other football fans

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/soccer/2020/06/19/napoli-fans-celebrate-coppa-italia-juventus-reckless

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-leeds-53449239

[quote Snookie00]Football (and sports) fans celebrate when their team wins the league especially one as significant as this to many rangers fans and its naive at best to think that they won’t join together to share the experience.

Link below to Liverpool fans celebrating in the same way last summer. It’s what’s people have always done share a collective joy. The Covid pandemic won’t stop that.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-merseyside-53191406[/quote]
It's stopped every other bloody thing though, hasn't it. Football fans are not immune from the rules and there is absolutely nothing that can justify this selfishness.

Oh ffs I’m the least blinkered person on the planet, I don’t think suggesting things could be de-escalated before they reach the point they are uncontrollable suggests blinkering. Yes many of us have had enough of lockdown. However MOST of us don’t think that gives us a reason to act like a shower of lawless arseholes on any pretence.

Ok RJ. You’re the least blinkered person ever. In that case, it can’t have come as a shock to you that many people are not following lockdown restrictions any more. If the police had cracked down hard on outside celebrations, it would just have moved it all inside which is arguably more likely to spread covid.

I’m not a football or old firm apologist but accept that people want to celebrate together and after a year of restrictions many people just won’t comply any more. A telling off from NS or JS won’t change that.

Are you seriously not getting my point that better management all round BEFORE means no hard crackdown needed?

Tbh the behaviour would have been bad enough any time, but the fact it was illegal even to be there was the sprinkles on the cherry on the icing on the cake.

Oh wait, this was MEN's football. I wonder if that had anything to do with the behaviour, or the establishment's response to it?

I accept your point that they could have clamped down with heavy riot police presence at Ibrox and George Square. That would have dissipated the celebrations and driven them inside peoples houses. There are not enough police to raid hundreds/ thousands of house parties happening simultaneously across the central belt and it would have caused chaos. People were going to celebrate and a warning from NS not to mix would have been ignored. Looks like they took the approach that it was better to have it outside in certain areas. I don’t believe that the Scottish government and police didn’t realise this was coming in spite of their rather feeble protestations asking people to comply with covid rules.

*MoreMorelos

*@snowcoveredcampsies so I dreamt the comments about how Celtic would never behave like that? No they prefer death threats and sending bullets through the post

That's a very specific thing to misremember.

@WhiskyIrnBru 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Yes to all of it.

Ah no that wasn’t my point at all but why worry about that 🤷🏻‍♀️

I lived in Glasgow for 23 years and not once seen a hibs walk. Now the orange walk, I saw that every weekend (sometimes I even went on it as a small child: my dads family were very Orange, despite me being a Catholic)