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October lockdown?

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Goingdooolally · 04/10/2020 13:24

Hi
I can’t see another thread on this and I think it’s more Scotland than general CV related.

Any thoughts on this? I’m a teacher and there’s been no word at work but I’m hoping to go away for a week in half term (west coast) and really really hoping lockdown doesn’t happen! Selfish I know, but we need a break!

Anyone got any views on the likelihood?

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Puddington · 18/10/2020 23:50

Also to clarify we are technically each other's support bubble in that he works from home currently and has no other support bubble/I have to work outside the home but take every possible precaution and just go straight home after work and never see anybody else or go anywhere really and have no other support bubble either, and we were planning to/happy to spend a week entirely indoors when I got to him if we had to. But I'm really working myself up that they're going to close the airports now or something if they implement this proposed ban Sad

WaxOnFeckOff · 18/10/2020 23:50

Going to the Lakes tomorrow, might not be allowed home then?

WaxOnFeckOff · 19/10/2020 00:00

Hopefully nothing that radical and you get to see your partner. I'd be going anyway tbh. If folk can go abroad on holiday, some more than once, then I think visiting your partner is a no brainer.

Puddington · 19/10/2020 00:41

Thanks @WaxOnFeckOff, I totally agree, I haven't been further than about 2 miles from my own house this entire time and I will 100% be going to him if I can physically get there, no question. I'm just getting so anxious that I won't be able to! But trying to stay positive Sad

rookiemere · 19/10/2020 08:01

My friend said that it would be illegal to impose a travel ban between Scotland and England- but then I'm not sure how they have managed it in England.
I think instead she'll strongly recommend that if you stay in a Tier 2 or 3 part of England that you self isolate when you come back, but again very difficult to impose.

Unless in Barrow in Furness Lake District is all Medium so Tier 1, so unless that changes over next week - which is a possibility I suppose - then it would be difficult to justify any restrictions .

I'm delighted we got away as who knows when we'll be able to do it again.

Saw some of the extended family- outside for a walk in a group of six - and had some great pub dinners and a trip on the Ullswater steamer. Planning to hit the Gretna shops on the way back today. Have to get up stupidly early and strip out the lodge and put all our bedding and towels into bags which somewhat kills the holiday buzz, but hey ho.

rookiemere · 19/10/2020 08:14

Wales I meant re the travel ban not England Blush

prettybird · 19/10/2020 08:48

Have a good holiday Wax Thanks

WouldBeGood · 19/10/2020 08:50

@Puddington the SG doesn’t have any power over border control as they are UK borders so you should be fine! It will be so lovely to see your partner after all this time 😊.

Happy holidays to all those off today, and glad everyone else who’s been had a good time.

WaxOnFeckOff · 19/10/2020 09:38

Thanks folks, glad to hear about everyone's lovely breaks. We have a week of rain forecast but that's just the way it goes, it'll be different rain...😂☔🚙🛣️🌧️🏞️

WaxOnFeckOff · 19/10/2020 09:38

Happy hols to all those heading this week.

WouldBeGood · 20/10/2020 09:16

Any guesses about the new tiers, and when they’ll be announced?

WaxOnFeckOff · 20/10/2020 09:52

At least 4, none of which directly match with the ones in England, announced at the last minute but with 3 of them to come in on a Tuesday at 3pm and the other on Thursday at 6pm.

They'll come down heaviest on areas which aren't an issue, insist that no cases ever occurred in schools and its all because WE'VE NOT BEEN DOING IT PROPERLY AND HAVE BEEN NAUGHTY.

NotAnActualSheep · 20/10/2020 10:20

@WaxOnFeckOff

At least 4, none of which directly match with the ones in England, announced at the last minute but with 3 of them to come in on a Tuesday at 3pm and the other on Thursday at 6pm.

They'll come down heaviest on areas which aren't an issue, insist that no cases ever occurred in schools and its all because WE'VE NOT BEEN DOING IT PROPERLY AND HAVE BEEN NAUGHTY.

Ha! Yes, this!

I feel so sorry for the businesses currently closed or restricted. I thought the restrictions were supposed to end on Monday and go back to "normal". So they should be sorting staff rotas, ordering food/ drink for next week about now. How can they do that if they don't even know what could be being proposed, and then debated in parliament next week? But it sounds like no-one has had the courtesy to tell them "actually, we're extending your restrictions for another few days until we move into our mystery tier system, and we're not telling you what that is yet, or which of the mystery tiers you might be in". It's so disrespectful IMO.

In the meantime, it's looking very much like cases are stabilising and even decreasing in many areas (who'd have thought that once all the student cases in the cities got through their isolation there would be lower community transmission..?) yet Scotland is preparing ever more stringent restrictions, not ruling out full lockdown with school closures and so on....Sigh.

Ecosse · 20/10/2020 11:49

I strongly suspect she will extend the hospitality closure for at least another 2 weeks. She will say that cases have not fallen far enough.

I also think she’ll extend the current rules to other areas as she can’t close pubs in Falkirk where cases are now well below average and keep them open in Dundee and Dumfries where they’re rising.

MarchingFrogs · 20/10/2020 12:04

If it's any comfort to you guys, I live in a unitary authority, far fro m the Scottish border, which apart from the edge which is bordered by water, is surrounded by the County whose leader recently made the government's day by demanding to be put into a tier higher than local circumstances dictated.

So, with one friend, different postcode but same Borough, I can enjoy a meal / coffee and cake / alcoholic beverage indoors, 0nly not at one of our favourite meeting places, because that's over the boundary. However, we can't do any of those things indoors, anywhere, if we want to do them with the third member of our little gang, because she lives over the boundary (but actually in the same main postcode and, indeed, postally in the same town as I do) and so the Tier 2 rules apply both in her area and to her personally, as a resident thereof.

(Inevitably, the even more easily confused than the rest of us, who live on our Tier 1 side of the line, are saying that the confusion should be dealt with by moving us into Tier 2, tooAngry).

Next week, DS2 and I are going on a campus tour at the University of Kent. I am now wondering whether we will be stopped somewhere in iour neighbouring bit of the County Council area (and will they count 'going on a campus tour' as a genuine educational reason for our journey?), or if not, refused entry to the other, Tier 1, unitary authority, where the QEII Bridge starts, because once we get there, we will be trying to enter from a Tier 2 area...

WaxOnFeckOff · 20/10/2020 12:48

We haven't been able to socialise indoors at all and only with one other household for a very long time. Also now no pubs or restaurants etc, so equivalent to tier 3 plus additional stuff. This is despite our rate being about 70 in 100000 per 7 days. Some areas not had any cases since May and can't open.

Ecosse · 20/10/2020 13:14

Glasgow and Lanarkshire have been under greater restrictions for weeks yet they are still making up the vast majority of cases- 900 today.

The issue in Lothian seems to have been largely as a result of students arriving as cases were very low before that. Hopefully numbers there will start to ease off.

NotAnActualSheep · 20/10/2020 13:36

@MarchingFrogs

If it's any comfort to you guys, I live in a unitary authority, far fro m the Scottish border, which apart from the edge which is bordered by water, is surrounded by the County whose leader recently made the government's day by demanding to be put into a tier higher than local circumstances dictated.

So, with one friend, different postcode but same Borough, I can enjoy a meal / coffee and cake / alcoholic beverage indoors, 0nly not at one of our favourite meeting places, because that's over the boundary. However, we can't do any of those things indoors, anywhere, if we want to do them with the third member of our little gang, because she lives over the boundary (but actually in the same main postcode and, indeed, postally in the same town as I do) and so the Tier 2 rules apply both in her area and to her personally, as a resident thereof.

(Inevitably, the even more easily confused than the rest of us, who live on our Tier 1 side of the line, are saying that the confusion should be dealt with by moving us into Tier 2, tooAngry).

Next week, DS2 and I are going on a campus tour at the University of Kent. I am now wondering whether we will be stopped somewhere in iour neighbouring bit of the County Council area (and will they count 'going on a campus tour' as a genuine educational reason for our journey?), or if not, refused entry to the other, Tier 1, unitary authority, where the QEII Bridge starts, because once we get there, we will be trying to enter from a Tier 2 area...

That's a crazy situation! You're like a West Berlin of tier 1 amongst a GDR of Tier 2...And a nightmare in practice for your cross-boundary friend in particular. But of course everyone knows the virus fully respects planning authority boundaries, just as it does NHS health board boundaries up here. (So rural areas of East Lothian are lumped with city centre Edinburgh in terms of restrictions, cos, well, "Lothians" ).

I think not being able to meet indoors at all is very harsh, and worse than even the Scottish situation. We can at least go to a cafe, even in the central belt, with one other household/ socially distanced. I'm sure that's being considered for the chop, though. The idea of only being able to meet outside is very grim to me... Wonder who in the SNP has shares in patio heater companies? (Though no one would admit to such energy-wasteful, fossil fuelled devices...they'd all be wind powered I'm sure).

WouldBeGood · 20/10/2020 15:08

@WaxOnFeckOff that’s probably very close to the mark!!

WouldBeGood · 20/10/2020 15:10

@Ecosse I was thinking that about the Glasgow/Lanarkshire cases: it all seems pointless. I really hope she doesn’t shut schools and gyms again in these areas. And I really want hospitality to open, poor business owners, the stress must be awful

anon444877 · 20/10/2020 15:17

the local council pool and library have just reopened here, and it seems a bit mad as they've been closed for so long whilst numbers were substantially lower than they are now, and now they're opening again.

The library and pool were of much interest to my kids and seems a bit mad that they're opening now at the back end of October and at this stage of the game...

mondaywine · 20/10/2020 16:19

I’ve had a day in Edinburgh with DD and my dad today. It was so sad to see so many of our quirky restaurants, shops and bars boarded up and unlikely to open again. It feels like such an uphill struggle for them to make it through now. Meanwhile we had lunch in a busy licensed cafe... I just can’t get my head around the reasoning around these restrictions.

WouldBeGood · 20/10/2020 17:20

@mondaywine it’s just so sad. I was in Glasgow on Saturday morning and it was a ghost town.

Lidlfix · 20/10/2020 17:29

We had a prebooked visit to Dundee (more than twice the rate per 100,000 than where we came from in the closed down central belt. Wrapped up, went to a lovely place with patio heater and really enjoyed the time we had and appreciated the steps that hospitality had taken.

BlueThursday · 20/10/2020 18:48

What will be her next move if closing the bars and restaurants hasn’t worked?

We are going to get a bollocking again despite being all locked up at home; what else really can be done?

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