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I'm not going to be popular, but I need someone to talk to

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veryconfusedandupset · 19/08/2009 20:01

Have name changed for this, obviously. Married for many years but although we intellectually connect and have fun the sexual side of it has never been quite right. DH seems inhibited and isn't really up for anything out of the ordinary. Anyway, I'm on this committee to do with work and through it I met X who is a few years younger than me, overweight, totooed and into bling (really not my type)on his third marriage and very good company. Not obviously attractive but there is something about him. he is a nurse who holds an administrative position and has that nice empathic manner that male nurses sometimes do. Anyway one thing led to another and before I knew where I was I was being bombarded with texts, invited for drinks and we began to see each other.We do get on very well, not just sexually. It has really messed my head about. As we both have families ( though mine are teens, his daughter is 11) we agreed we would not run away togerther, but both said we would like to.He is an acomplished lover and I do want him physically but each time we get close to having sex he pulls back and says that is not as high on his agenda as it is on mine ( though he invites me round to his house when his wife is out), sends me porny pictures and tries to have sex in wierd positions, but never actually does very much. I've been really silly over this and I'm now unreasonably and stupidly totally in love with him and I think I'm scaring him off by being a bit OTT. I'm just so upset and want to be with him and I feel miserable because he doesn't think it is reasonable I think sex is so important and now he is off to Devon on holiday for a week and I just can't cope and he thinks it is unreasonable of me tobe upset.I've tried really hard with DH over the years but no oral sex, not much sexual activity and no talking in bed leaves me very frustrated. No one will have any sympathy with me but I just can't cope with this on my own. Lover thinks I should be happy just to meet for a grope every now and then in a car park - or to pay for hotel for our meets.(he seems to have no money despite earning more than me)What a mess, am I being unreasonable to want more from X - or is he right that I should just chill out and enjoy what is on offer? If I give him up I'm going to feel distraught, upset and lost, but I feel like sh*t anyway. Don't want to leave DH, love him but can't cope with barren sex life forever - I'm getting on a bit and this might be my last chance.Abit of sensible advice and insight please.

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hambler · 04/09/2009 22:39

vcau there has ben a lot of uncalled for nasty and bitchy comments on this thread. Please don't take them to heart.

perhaps a holiday with your dh will give you time to see if you can rekindle things with him? Especially as the other man will not be around to confuse the issue.
Have a great holiday

AnyFucker · 04/09/2009 22:44

hambler, she has no intention of rekindling things wih him

she wants to continue to get naked with her dubious boyfriend and dream of running away to look after seals with him

and make a fool of her husband

that is despicable behaviour, IMO

would you be saying the same thing if this was a man posting about having "tongue and finger fun" with a woman other than his wife ???

the mind boggles

veryconfusedandupset · 04/09/2009 23:02

Thank you hambler, yes, we will have a nice time, this has been planned for 4 years. We will be staying together and all is well. We leave to catch plane 11am tomorrow.

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toomanystuffedbears · 04/09/2009 23:40

'Atta girl! You go for it!

At 53, you are gettin' yo groove back, hon, and deserve a parlimentary comendation!

AnyFucker · 04/09/2009 23:45

oh thank gawd, I was a bit worried there tmsb

thesecondcoming · 04/09/2009 23:50

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AnyFucker · 05/09/2009 00:05

tsc, I just don't understand why more people have not noticed the double standards here

like I said, if this was a man posting about getting his cock sucked by another woman there would be a fucking outcry

< puzzled >

NotanOtter · 05/09/2009 00:09

ladies ladies

dont spoil it! this thread has caused some hilarity chez otter long may it continue

thesecondcoming · 05/09/2009 00:11

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AnyFucker · 05/09/2009 00:13

I know otter, it has gone kinda sour hasn't it

I wonder why

hambler · 05/09/2009 00:36

yes i would be saying the same thing to a man.

ie
" It's not an affair.

You are not even getting a decent shag.

If he was your actual boyfriend and neither of you were married he would be a total dud' which was what I said to the OP. I also advised her to throw herself into rekindling things with her dh.

I don't get why some think it is ok to just hurl insults at someone who you think is behaving foolishly, even if the comdemnation of their behaviour is almost universal.

thesecondcoming · 05/09/2009 01:08

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Anniegetyourgun · 05/09/2009 08:57

I don't understand why she posted in the first place and called herself very confused and upset when she's apparently quite happy with the situation. Each to their own and all that, but if you actually ask for opinions, you get 'em.

Sorry to put in my two ha'pence worth; being deleted from Mumsnet for controversial posting will be good for my racy image >

AnyFucker · 05/09/2009 11:34

aww, not deleted

it would have been my first

I still have my deletion cherry

veryconfusedandupset · 28/09/2009 13:53

Well, it has ended in tears - mine as anticipated. I did have a nice holiday but didn't resolve my issues, it was just time out really. Came home to massive workload and X in the same situation. He promised me things would be better this week and we would be able to meet up. My heart was telling me there were serious problems and it was all over but he kept telling me not to be silly and how much he was looking forward to a day out together later this month. I played it really cool, only emailing useful stuff for work, being sympathetic etc. to his problems. Then last night when I tried to email him some stuff about a course we are both doing he responded with a "too much strain, can't cope"message and actually said - "its not you but me"( God, that is worse than the porn and horrid shoes!) " Well I didn't take it too well - stomped round to his house in my pyjamas this morning - fortunately not seen by anyone - but I just can't believe that after being bombarded with romantic and sexy emails etc. all day every day and protestations that he would love me forever it has ended like this - his is so bloody dishonest. There was me this morning in pyjamas, had not slept all night, looking terrible through crying constantly and he was just eating a piece of toast in his immaculate suit ready to go to work, looking like nothing had happened. I have demanded a meet for him to be truthfull with me this evening, which he says he is coming to. Feel very inclined to copy the bundle of poems etc and drop them in for Mrs X to see what a total shit he is! Why could he not just be happy with brightening our lives with a bit of mutual comfort from time to time, why did he have to bomb me with so much "love" and attention that it turned my head, and why do I have to feel like total shit today. I just feel totally unloved and cared about and as if I don't even deserve a little bit of consideration for my feelings. AND he said part of the problem was that I put him under pressure and was obsessed by sex!!! I also have a feeling, just a niggling feeling that as a careful consideration of his emails etc. shows a marked deterioration in interest from around 17 August he might just have found a replacement EMA that is more convenient for him. I know it was a disaster waiting to happen but why did I feel sorry for him, and why did I love him? Since I've been back he has been so skint he couldn't afford to take Mrs X out on wedding anniversary, has had episodes of paralysis in one hand, and what sounds like some panic attacks ( yeah, he deserves those). he is somoking heavily again and lives on Dr Pepper and take aways and I've just gone off on a tangent and started feeling I must help him and something terrible is going to happen to him. Just had to get this off my chest!

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GooseyLoosey · 28/09/2009 14:29

Don't meet him - what for? So you can rehash what a mess this all is? Walk away now with a little dignity intact.

HappyWoman · 28/09/2009 14:32

at least you have admitted your mistake and can now hopefully move on from it.

dittany · 28/09/2009 14:37

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AnyFucker · 28/09/2009 14:53

well, theres no fool like an old fool...

you were warned

I doubt you have learned your lesson though, something seems really wrong in your outlook to me

at least your dh didn't find out, unless your craziness boils over into true bunny-boiler tactics like giving OM's partner some evidence of your sordid fumblings

fgs, come down to earth and get on with your life

if you don't like your husband any more (and you have certainly demonstrated that with your insane behaviour), let him go to find himself somebody who does

houseontopofahill · 28/09/2009 20:33

veryconfused.... thanks for posting on my thread earlier. we awful dreadful harridans should stick together should't we? we could enjoy our public stoning together, or get the letter 'a' branded on our foreheads (that's what they did to adulterers in the olden days).

anyway, my sarcasm aside, i just wanted to offer my sympathy to you at what is clearly a difficult and confusing time in your life. i haven't read your thread, but i'm sure lots of people have already suggested you look at your marriage and yourself, and work out why you felt the need to have the affair, and whether you should stay in your marriage or not. best of luck with the difficult, painful and emotional times ahead.

AnyFucker · 28/09/2009 21:49

err, house, you should read the thread

toomanystuffedbears · 28/09/2009 23:00

Veryconfusedandupset...
What can I say? Why are you torturing yourself over this? It was just a romp in the hay and you knew that.

Let it go, get your brain into gear (finally) and leave this in the past, permanently.

It was superficial, your suffering should be superficial, too. Absolutely.

Don't give the Turd the satisfaction of seeing you blink one more time in his direction.

Yes, Houseontopofahill, the whole enchilada...bring popcorn. Or, well, smelling salts-it might be educational to some (like me) .

AnyFucker · 28/09/2009 23:06

I really have to stop coming back to this thread

I am like a fly 'round shit

Honestly, I am having to physically stop myself from posting further rather cruel and sarcastic comments of a "told you so.." nature

oops, I just did

bugger

bubbalewy · 28/09/2009 23:32

AnyFucker lmao you just crack me up,.. soo funny, seen yr comments on few threads, thanks for brightening my days please never stop

Monty100 · 28/09/2009 23:49

Bubble - Ditto.

Two carriage returns for a paragraph anyone?