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'H' Has just walked out.......

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TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 01/07/2009 21:36

Head in such a mess. DS was going into one of his meltdowns and I have so so much work to do. I wanted H to try and sort it.

But it doesn't work. And DS said 'don't ask him, he has probably been drinking.'

H was trying but his tone was impatient and unsympathetic and was winding DS up.

I pointed it out, I don't know, things started to escalate very quickly, and in frustration i expressed that DS had said he was frightened when he had been drinking...I didn't know H had already had a drink....

He blew up, packed a bag and walked out.

I am such a mess. Trying to accept that my marriage is over and that the man I married slowly disappeared. It is my wedding anniversary on friday, and part of me never wants to see him again and part of me feels so very sad that it is all such a mess.

I can't fall apart but I want to. I don't want to keep things together any more and keep putting sticking plaster on a wound that doesn't want to heal.

I am not sure what to do.

Oh shit........

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TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 05/07/2009 23:48

Ta ABW....

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ABitWrong · 05/07/2009 23:51

Oh heck, nowI will have to IRON you, and I am an amateur!!

Now, where is thetemperature control?

thumbwitch · 05/07/2009 23:53

ah, I love that upside. I was talking to my Dad about family stuff today and said that I didn't resent my ex for walking out on me because I got my own house out of it and the biggest bonus was never having to see/deal with his mother again!

vacaloca · 06/07/2009 11:46

TMW - just catching up after being away all weekend. Sorry yesterday was a bad day but as everyone says, this is likely to be the worst period. I still think you're being amazing. I hope you have some time to yourself to relax and pamper or even break down momentarily if needs be. Remember to look after yourself too, yes?

TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 06/07/2009 13:10

Thanks Vacaloca...

I am trying to keep busy at the moment. I like the weekdays because they are quiet and I don't feel so overwhelmed..

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mollyroger · 06/07/2009 16:05

Mits, have been away and missed all this. Just want to add my support and love x

TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 06/07/2009 19:33

Thanks Molly, (())

Bit of a rollercoaster day.

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thumbwitch · 07/07/2009 00:15

Are you all right TMW? want to talk about it?

mangopassionfruitshake · 07/07/2009 09:35

Morning Mits - is it still morning there?

Sunday sounds hard, but you got through it, right? And you managed one of ds's rages by yourself, so now you know it can be done.

Have you called Women's Aid?

Can you work it out so H sees the kids without you, so there isn't that fake, But Look! I was Nice for an Entire Afternoon, so Why Won't you Take Me Back, Unreasonble Woman? manipulation to be got out of it?

And if you're still feeling strong and sure about making the break now (and I really, really hope you are) could you:

a) ask H not to talk to the kids about coming back because it's not going to happen and he's going to hurt them (I know he probably won't listen)

and b) kind of prepare the kids before they see him again, so they know that whatever he says this is the situation and that's it?

I also think it's fine to say to ds that you don't want H back, you don't want to live with him. I know his behaviour towards you is less important to you than his behaviour towards ds at the moment, but maybe ds knows that too - so more guilty feelings...

mangopassionfruitshake · 07/07/2009 09:42

there were commas missing, try

b) kind of prepare the kids before they see him again, so they know that, whatever he says, this (ie you're not together) is the situation and that's it?

TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 07/07/2009 14:09

TW Yes I need to talk veyr badly..

.....I get quite a lot of, ''I am alone and lonely and will be for the rest of my life, because you are an extraordinary woman and I want you back, and will never love anybody else,'' and it is very easy to make me feel bad about myself. Because I have my own problems.

And the truth is, however badly H has handled things, DS is a monumentally difficult child to be around and I have struggled with him from a young age. He was born disattisfied. If you buy him something, it is the wrong colour, if you give him pocket money, he wants more. He seems to thrive on conflict and chaos and this was the case long before the problems with H and I arose. I the end, it became one of the major splits betwen us.

I have had DS seen by numerous people, who say he might be on the very lower end of the spectrum for ADHD and/or aspergers syndrome. The specialists observe him and say with a wry smile that we do seem to have a challenge on our hands.

His mentor spent little time with him, was taken in by DS's charming exterior, as were camhs and recommended parenting skills and 'breathing' with him. Without judging him, H simply can not manage him and in all honesty a lot of the time I struggle. He is a social hypochondriac and for 3 yrs (before the rift with H and I) we have had him analyse the way everyone looks at him, treats him, talks to him, what is fair or unfair, he appears to thrive on conflict and absorbs energy. If we are in a family group, he often wants to be the centre of everybodies attention and disrupts things to get it.

He has many many fine qualities but is very complex. And I recognise that he is just a child. He is coming home for lunches at the moment and I greet him with a smile and we laugh and hug, but to be honest, it is hard work and he is obsessed with having issues.

We have nearly resolved his bullying problems, and someone happened to mention 'peer pressure', so now I get
'you don't understand mum, I am under a lot of peer presssure.'

He takes my breathe away, but sometimes you just need to breathe normally.

So I empathise with H. Even DS's older brother who thinks the world of him has talked of how difficult DS is to manage, and he comes from a large family with lots of children, His mum works with children with special needs, and provides short term foster care. My mum and dad think he is great, but wouldn't offer to have him for the day.

And yes, he feels the rejection, knows he is hard work, but the bloody specialists all miss the point because time after time, they see him at his best because he is getting the attention he craves. And no-one will spend enough time with him to get his trust to find out what is making him tick a little out of synch. His mentor spent more time with me to the point that I now have concerns about his professionalism. And I thought I was doing the right thing for my son. But he pays me compliments and took DS out no more than 2 or 3 times.

There is a history of pschizophenia in H's family and I feel sick at the thought that we are completely missing the point, because I think as a mother, you just know when there is something not quite right in your childs world.

How the fuck am I supposed to handle all of this? I don't need to be making a complaint against a social worker FFS.

So I don't answer the phone until I am sure who it is, Get 2 children to 2 different schools, try to keep my business going, do all the housework (H and I were very balanced about that), Ds will have his rages for some time, DD is very very good but I have to make sure she comes out of this balanced. Fit in a busy term of school activities, keep fending off the 'nosy' questions from people who I know do not have my best interests at heart. And anything else that life throws at me randomly.

I am not feeling sorry for myself, I keep trying to take it in my stride, but when does it stop? When do I stop coping, and start just living? I don't even want much for myself,

And guilt because somewhere down the line of all the shit that was going on, I connected with someone that under different circumstance I would very much liked to have got to know. And even though I know it isn't true, it feels like this is all my fault because of that fact.

I have some fabulous friends and MN is ace but I don't feel like I have much left to keep giving, but life won't stop just because I have reached that point.

But I get up, look at the day, and just keep hoping that somewhere down the line, I can look back and shudder at the memory and get on with life. A quiet, non complicated, non confrontational life where I can be who I want, if I can remember who that is by the end of all this.

But Ds has had a bad day at school so I need to brace myself for the full force of his unhappiness.

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TooTicky · 07/07/2009 14:37

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TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 07/07/2009 14:38

.....(((()))))

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TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 07/07/2009 14:41

OK...not completely fair. A neighbour has offered to look after DC's so I can go kickboxing...And a friend is coming to see me tomorrow,

I am at my self pity...

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TooTicky · 07/07/2009 14:50

Ooh, who iscoming to see you tomorrow? Somebody nice?

TooTicky · 07/07/2009 14:50

don't be
you have so much going on

TooTicky · 07/07/2009 14:51
TigerFeet · 07/07/2009 15:00

Don't be Mits, I hope that getting it all out helps in some way.

I'm so sorry this is happening to you

I think it's very low that you're being emotionally blackmailed, it would seem that he's twisting the situation so that his behaviour is meaningless and it's your fault because you won't forgive and forget. However, you need to do what's best for yourself and for your dc's, I do think that after a period of readjustment you will be a happier family unit without him.

TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 07/07/2009 16:30

Oh feck...he is suing SS.

Not my problem but AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

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TigerFeet · 07/07/2009 16:34

On what grounds?

I doubt he'll get very far

He really does have a big problem in taking responsibility for himself doesn't he?

Snorbs · 07/07/2009 16:43

Heh, that reminds me of my ex. She made all sorts of claims that she was going to lodge formal complaints, see her MP, take SS to court etc etc etc >Yawn<

It was all empty threats. The worst she did was turn up to a few SS meetings drunk and swear at the social worker

As you say, it's not your problem.

TooTicky · 07/07/2009 17:20

He is what??!! On what grounds?

thumbwitch · 08/07/2009 00:10

Ah well, that'll be interesting but, as you say, not your problem.

TMW - I am glad you wrote all that down because it is good to do so - not a case of you feeling sorry for yourself at all, just a clear exposition of what you have to deal with on a daily basis and how complicated it really is.

As to your qu, when will you stop coping and start living again, there is no easy answer to that. It will happen one day, it will sneak up on you almost unnoticed; in fact it will probably go on for a while before you even realise that it has happened. But it WILL happen.

I have a story that might cheer you up a bit - I think I mentioned I had an ex who left me in a state for a while - we had been together for 11 years, due to be married in 3m time when he pissed off with a secretary (the cliché of it!). Over the following year, I felt my need for him to return slowly diminish but it wasn't until his lovely grandparents phoned me, almost exactly a year after he left (they had been in regular contact) that I realised I was "over" him.
They phoned to let me know that I should look out for varicose veins if I was still horseriding, as they were concerned that riding without stirrups might have contributed to my ex's VVs (he was 31) - which he had just had stripped from both legs and had to be wearing full length surgical stockings every day, over Valentine's Day and his anniversary with his new bint.
I don't quite know how I kept the laughter down while I was talking to them, probably out of respect for them cos they were lovely, but as soon as I was off the phone I PMSL. Justice!

OK, now back to you - your H's messages are a bit worrying - they are fully focused on him only, far too "me me me". You don't need that in your life. You have enough to deal with in looking after your son, who does indeed sound like a handful.
Without wishing to get too kooky on you, have you tried any physical therapies on him? Sometimes mood "disorders" can be down to dietary influences, sometimes cranial osteopathy can help, sometimes acupuncture can help. Given that you're not getting much out of the psych profession, it might be another avenue to explore? Even just something as simple as using one of the essential fatty acid supplements, e.g. Equazen EyeQ could make a big difference (unless you've already tried this avenue?)

Anyway - enormous {{{{{{hugs}}}}}} to you, keep talking, always here to listen and help if possible

thumbwitch · 09/07/2009 01:36

Hey TMW - I firmly hope you are in bed by now, but just wanted to check you are ok..

TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 09/07/2009 22:25

No....not in bed TW, working....

OK ish, have had to switch all phones off...

This is so so crap..... every time I think I am making a small step forward, I get knocked back. AA relatives support are not open at this time, I feel sick and am shaking.

toot, I have had to switch all phones off because he is drinking and emotional, and FB is down. Am going to work for another hour and then go to bed. Thanks for your support, take care of you..

(((((())))) to all who are supporting me.

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