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Husband left me on Sunday - please help me

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whereismumhiding · 16/04/2009 01:34

This is long so sorry, but please can someone help me. My husband and I (both 38) have been together for 14 years, married 8, happily I thought as we get on, laugh with each other, we have lots in common and some differences and have had a share of bad arguements like most couples.

We have 3 gorgeous children 6, 4, and a baby of 1. I wrote a thread back on 28 Feb, as I was diagnosed with postnatal depression in Jan 09 after he left me for few days. He came back and he instigated us going to Relate, we went out together and had fun & our lives came back, but we have only done 6 weeks of sessions, when suddenly he announced Easter Sunday that he "cant do this anymore, doesnt want to try any more at saving our relationship, he doesnt love me & wasnt being fully honest in the relate sessions. He told me he had lied for past 2 months when he said to me that his feelings were coming back. He said he doesnt feel our relationship works fundamentally". It's so strange to hear him say this as I genuinely dont think that's really true (although I appreciate it's his views so is valid) but it feels like he is rewriting our lives together.

This is such a body blow to me. I am devastated beyond belief. He has even told children (the next day!!!) that he doesnt love mummy anymore, it was making him sad & that we're divorcing. He has left and is planning to buy a house/flat nearby (what with?!) rather than rent (how final is that?) He's calm about it all, tells me he doesnt hate me and appart from arguing today which he actually rang back and apologised for.

Can anyone give me any advice or support?
Will he change his mind and come back? My head tells me he's gone and I have to deal with that and it wont help to hold out hope but this is so out of charactor and I never imagined he would ever leave me/us. He's cutting me out of his life and just wants the kids (he plans to see them 2x week). What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to keep going? My friends are rallying around but I am in bits.

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norksinmywaistband · 17/04/2009 19:28

I don't think its a switch, But it felt like that when Dh told me he didn't love me anymore( which apparantly has now switched again)

anyway in talking to him, he knew things were not right for sometime and assumed it was that he didn't love me, in reality he was still expecting love to remain the "in love, first rush of passion" type love which obviously after 16 tears and 2 DC it is not going to be..

I think love changes and develops through the course of a relationship, and men not liking that change, say that the love is just not there anymore iyswim

They are just cowards who cannot face up to responsibilty and reality

whereismumhiding · 17/04/2009 20:08

God I just read DH's online horoscope and it says how much happier he will be, the big decision he has made will give him a gain not a loss. And that he is destined not for a life of struggle but a rewarding happy one.

I feel gutted.
I wish I had never read it now.

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MrsTittleMouse · 17/04/2009 20:27

The horoscope is bollocks!
He is going to miss out on seeing most of his childrens' childhoods. He is going to be a part-time Dad at the most important time of their lives. He will never get it back. He might not regret it right now, but he will definitely regret it, and he will not have a wonderful life!

Have you set up getting legal advice yet? Please protect yourself and your children. He has a very warped idea of what all your futures will look like. He needs a wake up call.

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nkf · 17/04/2009 20:36

Imagine thinking he can take the children's savings for his new life. That shocked me more than almsot anything. You need legal advice as soon as possible. Am sending you good wishes for a happier future. Honestly, they live in a dream world some of them.

flossiemay · 17/04/2009 20:41

Try and ignore the horoscope. I find a good corrective is reading your children's horoscopes, then you see quite clearly that horoscopes don't necessarily mean anything. Also, it may be you that is heading for a brighter future, though it feels dark at the moment.
You didn't do anything to deserve this kind of treatment by your husband. The things he said to your children are appalling and suggest he's either incredibly insensitive or not in his right mind. And as for using the children's money for a flat, well, words fail...
It may be that he is having some kind of midlife crisis and will change his attitude in time but you have to prepare for that not happening and seek legal advice as others have suggested. However, perhaps you could suggest to him that you go back to counselling, not in order to 'save' the relationship, but to ensure that you both understand the enormity of what is happening (obv you already do!) and so that if you are going to separate, you can make sure that you do it as amicably and sensitively as possible, for your own and the children's sake. I have friends who had 'break up' counselling and it saved their friendship, if not their romantic relationship.
You sound amazingly strong. It is an awful thing you are going through. I really do feel for you.

solidgoldshaggingbunnies · 17/04/2009 21:47

Actually, can you get the money out of the account and actually put it in an account for the children? or do you need his signature?

CarGirl · 17/04/2009 21:56

I think you need to remind him that you will not have to sell your house as part of the divorce unless you can seriously downsize? He will have to house you and the children until the youngest is 18, and erm he may well have to pay you spousal maitnenance if you haven't worked for years because you've been bringing up his children!

whereismumhiding · 17/04/2009 22:54

So much good advice, it's really helping me. I was doing so well yesterday and today, really being practical and focused on the DC (Who have been sooooo good this week, almost abnormally so, I wonder if they are worried about me leaving). Then I hit such a downer this evening. The evenings are long arent they? Stupid to have read the horoscope, I realise that now.

I will ask him to put the DC money into a savings acc for them, if I can catch him being reasonable. I dont have any access to it as is entirely in his name otherwise I would bloomin' move it straight away!! I cant believe he would consider using it and hope that he wont as legally I probably cant stop him. I got the name of a great solicitor today. I will look at my DC's horoscopes too, good tip Flossiemay!. I dont normally read horoscopes but I've been so desperate to find reassurance or answers lately.

It's not that I want DH to have a miserable life though, I just feel so hurt that despite loving him and doing everything I've done for him for so many years and bringing up our DC, that DH sees his life as (and it might actually be) better by removing me from it. I'm warm loving kind hearted funny and now very skinny (amazing how losing your DH provides the best diet ever). I havent eaten since tea Sunday 4pm before he told me he was leaving. My friends brought chocolate cake round today so I picked a bit at it but I cant really swallow anything down at the moment.

MissTittlemouse what you wrote helped me feel better. I might keep reading it.

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ronshar · 17/04/2009 23:25

I am stunned reading your posts. I find it so hard to believe that a man who has three children, the youngest who is still such a very tiny baby, can just up and leave.
He is the one with the problem. NOT YOU. You have lived your life in the way you thought you were supposed to.

Be strong. Get into bed with your DC and just breathe in the smell of them. They are the important ones now.
Please eat something. How can you look after your baby if you are ill. Dont forget PND can be affected by your diet.

Most of all love yourself. You dont need him to make you a whole person. You sound fabulous to me.

pramspotter · 18/04/2009 06:23

OP,

I love to play around on this site: www.astro.com. You can enter all your details for yourself and your family and get really detailed horoscopes etc. It's pretty cool.

tallyhohoho · 18/04/2009 07:12

My H left in similar circumstances. I couldn't understand why or why he seemed so changed. I kept saying to people that he didn't have another woman, but if he had it would all make perfect sense.
Turned out he did have a new woman in his life.
You've had some great advice, especially from solidgold and custardo as always, follow that and you'll be fine.
best of luck and many mumsnet hugs

Unlikelyamazonian · 18/04/2009 08:45

Whereismum, my heart really goes out to you. But I promise, you will come through this. Take each hour, each day, one at a time. Easy to say, hard to do but keep reminding yourself of it.

My H left us nearly a year ago without warning. He took all our money - our 10k savings and drained our joint account leaving me with a 10k overdraft too. He has abandoned his baby son - our boy was six and a half months when he naffed off. He has two children aged 10 and 12 by his exp and he also raided both their post office accounts (containing money left to them by his dead father) to the tune of nearly 8 thousand.

He has utterly abanoned them too. We saw them regularly. I know that he has not been in contact with them and stopped maintenance to his ex when he flew into oblvision.

He went to Thailand of all seedy places on earth, and has lied his way into an entirely new life.

His family have blanked me and our son entirely and seem to blame me.

My h told me in a letter just before going, that he was very unhappy and thought that leaving us 'would give myself and the baby a better chance at finding happiness'

It was all bollocks of course. He had been searching sex sites and prostitute sites, was signed up to online dating stuff and had already stopped doing any work in his teaching post. He planned his escape. I only discovered all this when he had gone.

I couldn't function for four months. I lost 3 stone. It nearly killed me and I had my son removed from me for three days as I was in such a bad way. This gave me an enormous bloody kick-start believe me.

These men are weird. Incredibly plausible and charming on the outside but very screwed up individuals with fantasies and a strange sexual deviancy that they hide very well (in the case of my h at least)

It is NOT YOUR FAULT. You sound lovely. You need now, to get your life in order with the prctical steps advised on here. I had to push the baby round to solicitors and banks, crying, hyperventilating, sweating constantly in panic. I didn't sleep for months. I have no family to support me but I had wonderful, wonderful friends on the phone who literally got me through.

Social services, my health Visitor, my GP and other 'authorities' were actually fantastic too. I got myself straight onto adti-depressants - 60mg a day to start. I am now on only 20mg. I changed my will, closed bank accounts and opened new ones, got my son a passport in case my h came back to snatch him (I honestly didn't know what the hell was going on for the first couple of weeks). I got good legal advice from a child law specialist and a divorce sol.

I found doing all these things gave me back some sense of control when everything in life was chaos.

Nearly a year on, I am much recovered. I still have low times - mostly though, when I get one more piece of shitty or bizarre information about the bastard that proves even further, the level of deceipt and treachery to which he can sink.$

We are still married as I cannot even divorce him - no address so can't serve papers. He pays nothing to me and the bank have now said I have to pay back the entire 10 grand overdraft he stole. But hey, I am alive and I have my gorgeous son, now 17 months.

This is not about me - I am just trying to encourage you with my story, to think and know that you will get better and get stronger and that you are 100 per cent better off without such a selfish, strange, nasty piece of work. You have your wonderful children to think of and to love. They will love you forever. They will know when they are older, what a prick their father was.

He may well have been hiding a darker side from you - he may well have someone else. But these are HIS problems now and if he has, he is HER problem now.

He can continue to fuck up his life royally. You though can now start rebuilding yours. He was NOT the man you thought he was, was he. He just kept up the facade for a long while. I was with my h 7 years and married 5.
He was a very very good actor though he did start to unravel a few months before he left. I only saw this in retrospect though.

Sorry if this is long. But be very kind to yourself now. Try and gain strength from eating just a little each day - bananas, porridge, toast. Keep focussed and try to get as much legal and practical advice as possible.

Can you put the mortgage on an interest-only basis? Go to the CAB and get advice from them. Ask the CAB about the ISA in his name. If you have a bank account in your sole name, transfer as much money into it as possible. Stop the direct debit on CHB going into the ISA.

Sit down and go through all your outgoings. Cancel what isn't totally necessary - animal insurance, any monthly leisure subscriptions, that kind of thing.

Tell your children you love them completely and will never leave them - that you are always there for them.

Give yourself small pleasures each day - a hot bath with scented oil, a bunch of daffodils. If you work, go to your GP and get signed off for a month or so if you can.

You will slowly get better, I swear. The pain and trauma will subside. You may even realise that life was a strain with him - you already intimate this in your post (...'there is less to do without him here' etc)

Know for sure that he is a cowardly tosser..he just didn't reveal that to you until now. It's his life, he is now the master of his own destiny and you of yours. Believe me, yours is a lot brighter than his.

And stop reading horoscopes. I did, immediately. They really are nonsense but they hurt anyway.

Many many hugs to you and keep posting on here. MN was a total lifesaver for me 10 months ago.
xx

countingto10 · 18/04/2009 08:58

Believe me after a couple of weeks you will start to get angry and think how bloody dare he do this to me and the children (and you will start eating small amounts to begin with - it's not called the divorce diet for nothing!).

I am enraged that my h has done this to my 16 yr old DS (who has ASD and 1st dad abandoned him) just before his GCSE's (his beloved cat was put to sleep in January as well) - my DS is so anxious and upset, I could punch my H. My DS said he didn't want to lose another dad .

I'm now making the best of myself (doing hair and makeup) especially when H comes to see the kids - he commented how nice I looked yesterday (he may be beginning to regret his haste) and I acted very nonchalant (sp) and will continue to do so. He's going to have to do the begging now - I'm not sure any man is ever going to do this to me again !!! The feeling of the horror and panic and shock I felt when he left 4 weeks ago is going to take a very long time to forget.

I was discussing this with a friend whose ex left her (for another woman) when her DC were 3 and 11 months - she said it is pure panic because of the kids. I haven't worked for 10 years so my H knows he will have to support me as well as the kids (it will be very difficult in the current climate to get a job especially with 4 kids (2 with SNs)).

Keep strong and get angry. Remember you are not alone - I can't believe how many people have rallied around me in the last 4 weeks.

nkf · 18/04/2009 08:58

Hats off to you, Unlikely Amazonian. Great name too.

whereismumhiding · 18/04/2009 14:35

Thank you for your posts today and last night. I have had the day from hell today.
He's shouted at me when he "popped in to see kids", as he started also demanding when I couldnt remember where he'd left his spare car key (he has his other one but spare is somewhere in the house where he last left it) or would lend "his friend" (another man who left his wife & 2 kids 17 months ago whom he is now staying with) my bicycle lock as DH was riding friend's bike (left in our garage 7 months ago) back. He thinks his behaviour is so reasonable and it's all me. I'm not screaming at him, but not agreeing with what he asks now.

He's told me I'm being unreasonable. I think that I havent hit him up the side of the head with my wooden handled wok as evidence that I am being incredibly restrained.

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whereismumhiding · 18/04/2009 14:37

I am so emotional today, I keep crying.

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DarrellRivers · 18/04/2009 14:49

Keep up the cool and calm 'ice maiden' act
It all sounds rotten

countingto10 · 18/04/2009 15:32

It's still very early days and you will be very close to tears most of the time. Keep strong and don't let him bully you.

I want to punch my H's lights out as well at the moment - he's trying to saboutage my plans to go out tomorrow by saying he can't guarantee what time he can get here to look after the kids. I am getting very angry now.

Keep cool and don't let him know he's getting to you. The more you show him you are unaffected by his behaviour the more it will irritate him.

whereismumhiding · 18/04/2009 16:01

Right, I've plan for the week.

  1. Book appointment to see solicitor - have been given name of a great one if she still works there.
  2. Set up new bank account
  3. Tidy through my house & move all his stuff into loft. Keep copies of his bank acc and earnings for my solicitor.
  4. I have already told (his) friend (who left his DW last year) to collect his belongings from 'my' house tomorrow at 12pm (I asked him last last tues, but he was stalling, so I said 'I'll "help" you by putting it in the garden tomorrow lunchtime' to given him an incentive to stop stalling)so that I have room to put my own DH's stuff into loft.
  5. Try to keep up an ice maiden act
  6. Make budget plan with my friend to cut costs
  7. Tell DH how much money we need each month
  8. Try to stop crying

Any tips on keeping up calm rational ice maiden act? We've had 22 phonecalls today, some him, some me and the final ones were both of us being reasonable. I've been as bad as him today because I am hurt. Trying to dislilke him but I can't keep it up because I dont really believe he's not the man I married. It also makes me too emotional if I start hating him. Please someone tell me again why he's no good. I know he left. He says he knows he did a bad thing leaving me but he thinks it is better in the long run for us to be apart. He makes it sound so reasonable. Is it reasonable to leave your wife, 6, 4 and 1 year old?? Just to stop loving your wife but not tell her why?

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surreygirl · 18/04/2009 16:16

Just found this thread, sorry to hear what's going on WIMH... and the other MNs going through similar experiences...

My ex-H left me in 2000 after 12 years together, 8 of which married. Totally out of the blue just said one evening that he 'couldn't do this anymore'. Thankfully we didn't have DC but we were ttc.... He pissed about for a month going out a lot to find himself... and he denied that there was anyone else but of course there was OW on the scene - he later married her when she got pregnant and I now gather from grapevine where I used to live that he's playing around again .. and I lost 2 stone due to divorce diet too.

Like you though I felt very close to tears every min of the day at first - just seeing couples walking along looking happy in Sainsbury's would set me off! I know people are probably telling you this but you will come through this and you will be stronger. He sounds an utter shit and you're better off without...

Oh and piece of advice that my elderly great aunt gave which was right... he'll probably try and come back. My ex-H did... about 3 months after he'd left when we were in the middle of moving out of the house and splitting stuff into his van and my van he tried to worm his way back just as the removal men were finishing!! By then I had a) decided to move on and that I didn't want him in my life anymore and b) flung my cheapo Argos wedding ring into the River Thames on a girls' night out. So I politely told him no thanks.... no tears but just did the ice maiden stuff. He left, I then got a few calls and a bunch of flowers delivered. I let the calls go to voicemail and the flowers got taken to a local graveyard!!

2.5 years later I met my DH, remarried in 2006 and we now have DS. So so much happier... and you will be too.. just cling onto that thought, one day you will be much happier.

Big hug. xx

surreygirl · 18/04/2009 16:23

NO it most definitely isn't reasonable to leave your children, to try and plunder their bank accounts and to be such an arsehole to you.

And NO it is not reasonable, caring behaviour to not be honest with you and/or tell you why he wants to leave..

Your list is fab.. I would also add to point 4, find out as much as you can about his savings/pension for the solicitor too.

and point 7, don't be surprised if you have to justify every single penny.... my ex had no effing clue re how much coucil tax and gas etc cost!!! And suddenly didn't appear as amiable when he was having to fork out some money for me and his new pad...

whereismumhiding · 18/04/2009 16:36

Thank you Surreygirl. I keep trying to think to myself that there must be a nicer man out there. You found another one (not that I would go near another man for years). Surely they are not all selfish underneath? I keep think DH must be incredibly shallow and selfish to do this. He just says it's one of those things, some people get on and some dont. What part of us didnt get on?????!! That's news to me!!!! I'd think after 14 years I'd deserve more.

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pink76 · 18/04/2009 16:39

I reckon that what goes around comes around and this idiot will be the one to lose out in the end. What you are going through happened to a good friend of mine a few years ago but she got through it and found new strengths that her ex had stifled.

Don't know you personally but sending you big hugs and love and a good punch or two for the idiot!

surreygirl · 18/04/2009 17:03

WIMH - I didn't go near another man for 2.5 years and then took it very very slow when I met my DH. In my view most, not all, of them are selfish but there are the good 'uns out there . In a few months you may get friends 'helpfully' trying to set you up with someone new though so be warned!! (Can think of three different guys that friends tried to pair me off with and I just ran a mile)...

Your H is selfish, shallow, ....and stupid, shitty, scummy, saddo (lots of words beginning with S!!) etc., - like you I thought me and my ex got on fine - so did everyone else as friends were so shocked when we split. I guess the worst part is finding out that he felt/feels differently and it does make you wonder why, and also make you feel and realise that the whole marriage wasn't what you thought it was.... and guys often do seem to think that the grass is greener or they can have cake and eat it etc., You do deserve more respect, kindness and love, remember that.. and it's NOT your fault....

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