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I slapped the ow last night and i feel soooo much better!

552 replies

ambercat · 15/03/2009 22:48

thats it really, feel like i have closure now!!

OP posts:
Lizzylou · 17/03/2009 10:20

I think Custardo makes a good point, in a very nice way Georgimama, no sneering or insults.

ambercat · 17/03/2009 10:20

Before, the slap feels like a full stop in this whole mess!. I keep saying this but i feel like i have closure, she is no longer haunting me, i haven't dreamt about her since sat (usually a regular occurance) i'm not thinking about her as much, i feel on a high almost like its finally over, i even ran 10 miles yesterday!.

This feeling may not last and the whole thing may fall apart but at the moment i feel strong for the first time in ages, my marriage feels like its back on track and we are happy. Yes its wrong to slap someone and its sad that it has taken violence to make me feel this good but thats the truth!

No one will ever convince me she didn't deserve it. I know alot of you seem to think i should burn in hell but you cannot be sure how any of you would react in that situation, a year ago i too would have been adament i would never hit anyone but look how wrong i was!!

I'm leaving this thread now.

OP posts:
ginnny · 17/03/2009 10:29

Good for you Ambercat

LindenAvery · 17/03/2009 10:29

I already pointed out that I can understand why you did it and I do not feel highly about women who do chase after married men. Nor do I respect married men who lie and cheat when they have made an agreement to be faithful.

You are right about not being sure how I would react, but if the slap was a full stop, why are you posting on MN? That's what I am worried about for you- if anything you have made the connection between you and the OW stronger than ever.

Appreciate people on here do have different views.

georgimama · 17/03/2009 10:30

Your language is really emotive and silly ambercat. No one said you should burn in hell.

You clearly have ishooos in a major fashion. So glad violence has made you feel good. Let's hope you don't accidently come across her again, otherwise what will it take to make you feel good next time? A punch? A glass in the face? A knife?

Think about it. Get some help.

LindenAvery · 17/03/2009 10:34

georgimama - thanks for the warning!

I am of course all those things!

Haribosmummy · 17/03/2009 10:35

I agree with Georgimama.

The fact that you are still obsessing about her (dreaming about her regularly ) really does suggest you have unresolved issues.

it does seem that you feel you are in competition with this woman and, now you've slapped her, your marriage is happy

JaneSeymour · 17/03/2009 10:38

I'm with Custy 100%

No point fighting for a man who has shown oyu in no uncertain terms that his love isn't exclusively yours

It makes me feel sick to see women trying to 'win' the fight with the oW

as though she has any choice about where her husband lies down

it's entirely his responsibility, and if I was with someone who chose to do this he would be out of the door faster than he could blink.

I'm sorry for you Amber, it sounds as though your self respect has really taken a bashing, which is possibly why having 'won' this little episode is having such a profound effect on it.

It might be worth accepting tht there's absolutely nothing a woman can do to ensure that her husband doesn't fuck around

It would lighten your load
but may be hard to face as it means you've no real control.

Perhaps she was game playing in her own way, sounds like a cow if so - but that's her problem, not yours. Can't you see? He doesn't belong to you.

JaneSeymour · 17/03/2009 10:40

It reminds me of those old fashioned duels where the blokes had to kill each other to 'win' the woman

like she didn't really know who she liked best, so it came down to 'not the dead one then'

Bizarre really.

flummery · 17/03/2009 10:49

I think that's a little cartoonish, JaneSeymour. A woman who chooses not to simply walk away in the event of an affair is not necessarily fighting to 'win' or asserting possession of her partner.

Making assumptions about the wife, the husband, the marriage or the affair is no more realistic than claiming that every OW is a bunny boiling skank.

macdoodle · 17/03/2009 10:54

I honestly believe that until you find yourself in this situation you have no idea how you will react (the cheating H not the slapping BTW)- I can guarantee that all of us always said we wouldnt condone cheating or lying that H would be out on his ear, that we would never make them feel like they needed to cheat yada yada I know I said it myself!
When it happens you behave differently it really is not that easy trust me on this.....
I tryly would never wish this on anyone, but until you know what it feels like to have your whole world, your trust and your foundation come crashing around, please leave of the self righteous pity and stop judging!
OH and FWIW I suspect that most OW do in fact know the H is married often with DC often with one on the way, and they CHOOSE to believe his lies perhaps just as the W does...those that honestly have no idea I do not despise at all, as they are innocent victims like the W and DC, those OW that know sorry just dirly little harlots IMO

prettyfly1 · 17/03/2009 11:03

Oy Mac. And I was nice to you

macdoodle · 17/03/2009 11:08

Hi Pretty Well your situation was certainly out of the ordinary and no you're not a harlot

WilyWombat · 17/03/2009 11:10

I do think most of the "holier than thou" brigade have never been in this position...amazing too that those most vocal regarding disgust at the op slapping the other woman are also completely oblivious/uncaring regarding the fact that this is a real person in emotional pain. Oh its OK to put the boot in a few times and tell her what a terrible person she is as long as you get your point across? Good on you what clever gentle people you are

Yes you know logically that your partner is the person you should blame.

You know he probably strung her a line about how you dont want sex, you are miserable, he is only with you for X, Y, Z reason and she is the love of his life

Yes you have always told yourself if anyone was ever unfaithful you would just leave.

Generally you dont go around slapping people and wouldnt condone it.

But until you have been there you dont know how it feels - if ambercats OW had not kept provoking the situation it probably would have just fizzled out without anyone being slapped....but in these situations you can only push someone so far before they snap, even if they are generally a sane normal person.

Ambercat if you still feel angry in 3, 6, 9 months down the line you need to get counselling and either come to terms with it or move on without him (he doesnt sound like much of a prize to me, but only time will tell if he has learnt from this experience)

prettyfly1 · 17/03/2009 11:11

Ta mac hope your good!!

OnlyWantsOne · 17/03/2009 11:14

is this thread still going in... Amber, how are you feeling now? Things ok?

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 17/03/2009 11:41

I have had mixed feelings reading this thread. It's like reading what I would have written a year ago (from the "one strike and he's out" brigade) and what I would say now (from the "I understand why you did it" posters). I also feel that this thread has had gender/class stereotype undertones in some of the posts.

I have decided now that, like so many other things, until it happens to you personally, you cannot feel genuine empathy with the poster's position. I cannot condone violence, but my God I understand why you felt driven to it Amber. I also understand why other posters, who have never felt those feelings of utter hatred and contempt, find them incomprehensible. I was just like you a year ago, repeating the mantra that the anger should be exclusively directed at the DH, that the OW has no allegiance to you etc. and therefore cannot be blamed....

My truth (bitterly learned) is that things are FAR more complex. That the men in these situations are of course culpable for the hurt and the betrayal, but that the other party involved should also shoulder blame. It doesn't matter what gender you are, if you have made a commitment to a monogamous relationship, you should refuse any offers to depart from that commitment. Equally, if you know a person is attached, you shouldn't enter into a relationship with them. It's pretty simple, really.

What it actually comes down to, is the way we treat each other as human beings. Do we behave decently and with integrity, or destructively and competitively?

There are various OW and OM and I suspect all of them have different motivations and stories. What I do know is that affair partners who know that someone is married, has children and nevertheless enter into these arrangements, should not escape our approbation.

Some of them regard the whole escapade as a competition I'm afraid. It's the winning that counts and because they see it in these terms, when they "lose" in the end, they continue to behave destructively - hating their "opponent" (and even the opponent's children and family, amazingly) because it is not the loss of the relationship they mourn, but the fact that they have lost the competition. Yes, people like that are damaged and should ultimately be pitied - they are after all unlikely to have happy lives - but it is a step too far to expect the person whose lives they have helped wreck to feel anything but huge anger and contempt.

Some of the posters on here don't seem to understand passion and the primeval feelings many of us have had when someone "attacks and invades" our family. The language is old fashioned - and the feelings all this evokes are very old and will, I suspect, always be with us.

I understand why you feel this way, but honestly, you have no idea what you would do to protect your family from harm, until it happens to you.

And until we stop demonising married partners and absolving affair partners of their responsibilities to the human race, we will not reach understanding.

WilyWombat · 17/03/2009 12:02

I agree with Whens comment "Some of them regard the whole escapade as a competition"

I had a workmate who persued and was involved with a married man, she told me "I feel so flattered when hes with me, that he has chosen to be with me and not her"

Whilst I felt sorry that she valued herself so little, lets face it he wasnt much of a catch was he, I also disliked her intensely for it.

I feel incredible sympathy for women who get involved with a man not knowing he is married (although unless he works away from home the clues are there arent they)but women who knowingly get involved with married men I dont like or understand at all. Before I get accused of sexism I agree totally that 50% blame is with the man but the reason wives direct so much vitriol toward the OW is because its easier to be angry toward someone you dont love.

georgimama · 17/03/2009 12:02

I love the presumptions that are being made about the "holier than thou" brigade. Not thinking violence is OK does not mean you have never had any problems or experience of what the OP has been through.

It is strange yet predictable that this presumption is being made.

27T · 17/03/2009 12:24

I think you are all being unnecessarily harsh. My wife cheated on me for 3 years with a bloke from work. She told me on my 40th birthday and asked me to tell our 13 year old daughter that I had also found someone else so that she wouldn't be "blamed". I felt very betrayed and angry. I wanted to punch the guy out.

I saw a friend who was a psychiatrist and he gave me two bits of advice - don't take drink and that my ex-wife had not done this deliberately to piss me off i.e. shit happens.

I'm now glad I didn't belt him - it would have only given me temporary relief.

In the end this guy left his wife and 3 month old daughter to live with my ex. My daughter wanted to stay with me and a year later I meet a wonderful woman who made me realise how lucky I was that the OM had take the ex off my hands.

Haribosmummy · 17/03/2009 12:28

Well, if I was the OW out to get in the wife's face, the fact that she'd wasted a drink on me and felt the need to slap me in public.... I'd probably take that to mean I was still pretty important to her hubby.

Putting myself in the OW's shoes (and assuming Ambercat is right and the OW was openly trying to provoke her ) then I'd think I'd done really rather well.

Again, I agree with Georgiemama. I'm certainly not holier than thou, but if my husband wanted to be with someone else, then I'm not going to break his balls to stay with me. And I'm certainly not going to go round slapping people or wasting perfectly good alcohol on them

macdoodle · 17/03/2009 12:45

And you know that for certain how Haribo???

sincitylover · 17/03/2009 12:49

Have been following this thread with interest - it reminds me of when I used to go to a disco on an estate on the other side of town (when I was about 14) and the girls on the estate used to warn us off their men and try to start fights with us. It posturing imo but underlies a massive insecurity sort of 'the you looking at me' mentality.

That sort of culture will prob be quite alien to many mnetters.

I did strongly suspect my exh of cheating but would have never confronted OW or lowered myself to hitting her. I also debated getting a pi but in the end decided to save my money, keep my dignity and get on with my life, if that's how he was going to behave. He wasn't committed to the marriage.

It also pees me off that he onus falls on the woman to save the family etc yeah like the H was when he entered into the affair.

Finally I hate the talk of slapper, tart etc when describing the OW or OM.

In fact agree with the pov from haribos mummy mostly.

georgimama · 17/03/2009 12:52

Because macdoodle, people do know what they are prepared to do and what they are not prepared to do.

I wouldn't do what the OP did. I might want to, I might feel that a slap is what the little bitch deserved, but I wouldn't actually do it. It's called self respect. I wouldn't want her to think that one year on I was still so cut up. Also I am a lawyer and I could probably lose my job. Losing my job because of my husband's adultery would be pretty stupid.

I know this about myself.

macdoodle · 17/03/2009 12:52

what would you call them then sin city??

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