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Did I ruin this, or was his situation too complicated anyway?

206 replies

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 13:04

I started talking to a guy my age (both of us 42) who was training to be a psychotherapist and completing a doctorate. We had some amazing deep conversations over text, voice notes and phone. It was honestly refreshing not to be doing all the usual small talk and he never tried to do what a lot do and talk about what I like in bed etc All in we talked for a week and a half.

He was upfront the first day that 6 months ago he ended a 14 year relationship that had become like a friendship e.g. they hadn’t had sex in a lot of year, slept in separate rooms etc. He had quit his job to start the course when they were together and she had agreed to support them financially as he had done similar for her years before. He said he would have very limited time if we dated as his course was so intense and he was doing an uber delivery job around this to try and get money to live basically and pay for an expensive course. He said we would maybe see each other once or twice a month only. He also said he wouldn’t have much money to take me out much but I’ve had to pay in relationships before when I’ve had more money and I thought it was a green flag he was being upfront. I figured as well it would be better to have someone I click with amazingly and only see him once or twice a month than a lesser connection so we both said we would meet and just feel our way with things.

Maybe mid way through the week and a half he disclosed he still lived with his ex. As I said in the last paragraph he had quit his job to start the course when they were together and she had agreed to support them financially as he had done similar for her years before and she had said she would honor that and let him live rent free with her (the mortgage was just in her name for some reason it had never been his house though he had paid towards bills etc). He said that she didn’t allow him to bring any women to the house since it was hers and she wanted to protect her space. Problem with that is I only broke up with my ex 6 months ago too and moved back in with parents and not sure when I will be buying a house but we agreed we would find ways round it if things went well and we were a couple like hotels or getting creative when my parents were away etc. I’ve heard of ex’s needing to stay living together before for financial reasons but they have always said they live very separate lives like ships in night almost but he admitted they watched tv together and ate together so coupley stuff really without the sex but he explained that he still cared about her as a friend which I can get. He wasn’t even allowed to phone me from the house though if she was in and did it on a walk or in the car.

I honestly think I would have felt a bit jealous about him living with his ex but then I thought it was a green flag he was so honest. He just seemed like a really nice, caring guy who was so big on communication and talking about our feelings and past life. We were both super excited for the date that should have been today and were communicating non stop with good chats and also flirting by this point… then I blew it all. On Thursday this week I had a really tough day at work and news about a death that made me a bit upset so I had a few drinks and I basically totally misunderstood something he had said in a text being drunk and upset state and then we straightened it out but I kept apologising. He was telling me you’re being silly all is fine with us but I wasn’t reading it and just kept saying stuff lie sorry I’m so stupid, hope I hadn’t ruined things… we went to bed and then in the morning I was cringing massively at myself and texted him sorry about last night and explained I’d been upset and told him was looking forward to meeting and that I’m sometimes a bit over emotional and not thinking clearly after couple of glasses of wine (bad I know you don’t have to say).

So this was then yesterday morning and he sent a long voicemail stating he had decided we shouldn’t meet as I had needed him emotionally and he hadn’t been able to meet my needs because he couldn’t call and say stop being silly as he was at home and that he thought that I deserved more than his current situation and that if we met we would fall for each other and he would hurt me when he couldn’t give me enough time etc… yes his situation was complicated but before my stupidness that night he had been keen to meet and see if we could feel our way so today I am genuinely depressed I probs threw away someone I had a lot of potential with. Honestly never clicked like we did with anyone ever (I know we didn’t actually meet but from all th texting, voice notes and calls we were so similar and gelled so much).

My friends at work immediately jumped on they think he isn’t actually single and the little time for me and not going near his house was because he was still in the relationship. He had explained though she hadn’t wanted the breakup and since they were now separated didn’t want to see who he was dating etc. His course was running at least another two years so he had to respect her wishes because he wouldn’t be able to move out and pay rent elsewhere until at least then.

Just feel so mad at myself for being an emotional tit and self deprecating one, who doesn’t read messages properly when tipsy. All my friends just keep harping on though that he probs wasn’t single and that anyway there were too many bad things like lack of time, no money to do stuff and they all said they couldn’t have a guy live with his ex and still do coupley stuff like watch tv together… but honestly I think they are just doing what friends do and trying to make me feel better.

Any perspectives as to whether you agree I totally screwed up or dodged a bullet welcome? Would you put up with a girl who lives with his ex and wasn’t available a lot?

OP posts:
Pancakeflipper · 22/08/2026 17:14

I think he has told you lots of lies.

Please wave him.goodbye and move forward.

AlphaApple · 22/08/2026 17:15

Jenpen31 · 22/08/2026 15:51

From reading this.....this is what I get from it:

  1. He is a married man.
  2. He drives an uber.
  3. He wants to meet twice monthly for sex.
  4. When he has realised you have emotions, he has dropped you.

Move on girl. Block. Delete and move on.

@Jenpen31 nails it.

dylexicdementor11 · 22/08/2026 17:17

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 13:04

I started talking to a guy my age (both of us 42) who was training to be a psychotherapist and completing a doctorate. We had some amazing deep conversations over text, voice notes and phone. It was honestly refreshing not to be doing all the usual small talk and he never tried to do what a lot do and talk about what I like in bed etc All in we talked for a week and a half.

He was upfront the first day that 6 months ago he ended a 14 year relationship that had become like a friendship e.g. they hadn’t had sex in a lot of year, slept in separate rooms etc. He had quit his job to start the course when they were together and she had agreed to support them financially as he had done similar for her years before. He said he would have very limited time if we dated as his course was so intense and he was doing an uber delivery job around this to try and get money to live basically and pay for an expensive course. He said we would maybe see each other once or twice a month only. He also said he wouldn’t have much money to take me out much but I’ve had to pay in relationships before when I’ve had more money and I thought it was a green flag he was being upfront. I figured as well it would be better to have someone I click with amazingly and only see him once or twice a month than a lesser connection so we both said we would meet and just feel our way with things.

Maybe mid way through the week and a half he disclosed he still lived with his ex. As I said in the last paragraph he had quit his job to start the course when they were together and she had agreed to support them financially as he had done similar for her years before and she had said she would honor that and let him live rent free with her (the mortgage was just in her name for some reason it had never been his house though he had paid towards bills etc). He said that she didn’t allow him to bring any women to the house since it was hers and she wanted to protect her space. Problem with that is I only broke up with my ex 6 months ago too and moved back in with parents and not sure when I will be buying a house but we agreed we would find ways round it if things went well and we were a couple like hotels or getting creative when my parents were away etc. I’ve heard of ex’s needing to stay living together before for financial reasons but they have always said they live very separate lives like ships in night almost but he admitted they watched tv together and ate together so coupley stuff really without the sex but he explained that he still cared about her as a friend which I can get. He wasn’t even allowed to phone me from the house though if she was in and did it on a walk or in the car.

I honestly think I would have felt a bit jealous about him living with his ex but then I thought it was a green flag he was so honest. He just seemed like a really nice, caring guy who was so big on communication and talking about our feelings and past life. We were both super excited for the date that should have been today and were communicating non stop with good chats and also flirting by this point… then I blew it all. On Thursday this week I had a really tough day at work and news about a death that made me a bit upset so I had a few drinks and I basically totally misunderstood something he had said in a text being drunk and upset state and then we straightened it out but I kept apologising. He was telling me you’re being silly all is fine with us but I wasn’t reading it and just kept saying stuff lie sorry I’m so stupid, hope I hadn’t ruined things… we went to bed and then in the morning I was cringing massively at myself and texted him sorry about last night and explained I’d been upset and told him was looking forward to meeting and that I’m sometimes a bit over emotional and not thinking clearly after couple of glasses of wine (bad I know you don’t have to say).

So this was then yesterday morning and he sent a long voicemail stating he had decided we shouldn’t meet as I had needed him emotionally and he hadn’t been able to meet my needs because he couldn’t call and say stop being silly as he was at home and that he thought that I deserved more than his current situation and that if we met we would fall for each other and he would hurt me when he couldn’t give me enough time etc… yes his situation was complicated but before my stupidness that night he had been keen to meet and see if we could feel our way so today I am genuinely depressed I probs threw away someone I had a lot of potential with. Honestly never clicked like we did with anyone ever (I know we didn’t actually meet but from all th texting, voice notes and calls we were so similar and gelled so much).

My friends at work immediately jumped on they think he isn’t actually single and the little time for me and not going near his house was because he was still in the relationship. He had explained though she hadn’t wanted the breakup and since they were now separated didn’t want to see who he was dating etc. His course was running at least another two years so he had to respect her wishes because he wouldn’t be able to move out and pay rent elsewhere until at least then.

Just feel so mad at myself for being an emotional tit and self deprecating one, who doesn’t read messages properly when tipsy. All my friends just keep harping on though that he probs wasn’t single and that anyway there were too many bad things like lack of time, no money to do stuff and they all said they couldn’t have a guy live with his ex and still do coupley stuff like watch tv together… but honestly I think they are just doing what friends do and trying to make me feel better.

Any perspectives as to whether you agree I totally screwed up or dodged a bullet welcome? Would you put up with a girl who lives with his ex and wasn’t available a lot?

Run for the hills!

LovingLifeInTheCountry · 22/08/2026 17:19

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 16:20

Yes he had about 5 on his profile and he sent me some more on WhatsApp and we did video chat once

@Helen123UKDid you do a reverse image search?

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 17:22

LovingLifeInTheCountry · 22/08/2026 17:19

@Helen123UKDid you do a reverse image search?

He said he had no social media and wasn’t on electoral role either as he was abused by his mother as a child and she had tried to contact him as an adult so he wanted no presence online for her to know where he lived but no I didn’t think of that

OP posts:
susiedaisy1912 · 22/08/2026 17:24

🤣🤣🤣 surely this is a joke

Havinganosy · 22/08/2026 17:24

At this point you don’t know if anything he told you is the truth. I would try looking him up on LinkedIn etc as sounds very suspicious!

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 17:26

Havinganosy · 22/08/2026 17:24

At this point you don’t know if anything he told you is the truth. I would try looking him up on LinkedIn etc as sounds very suspicious!

Yeah I tried all
sirts of searches including LinkedIn but nothing and I can usually find most ppl I talk to easily enough after a bit of searching

OP posts:
Havinganosy · 22/08/2026 17:28

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 17:26

Yeah I tried all
sirts of searches including LinkedIn but nothing and I can usually find most ppl I talk to easily enough after a bit of searching

It’s strange that you would get no hits for someone online these days! Maybe he told you a fake name 🤷🏻‍♀️

fivepastmidnight · 22/08/2026 17:29

There is no good scenario here - He's lying - They're still together, she pays alls bills, he's a part-time Uber driver and his doctorate is a cover for why he can't get out to see you very Often. He was hoping to have a no strings strings sex partner. You getting emotional and upset has put him off because you might might get drunk and turn up or ring repeatedly when Hey with his wife I'll want somebody risky. If they were split up and just staying together as friends he could easily just go into his own room or the bathroom to make a private call I assume he doesn't make all his calls in front of her even to his friend's mother etc.

Alternatively he's telling the truth and he is a part time Uber driver with no money, he lives with his ex in a house that she owns and you can't ever visit and we can't afford to take you out anywhere so you will be paying for hotels for you to have sex in on any meals or anything that you want to do.

I'm not sure why you think any of this It says green flag! Where did you 'meet 'him? if it was on a dating site why is he on a dating site if it can only go out twice a month and can't pay for anything.

disturbia · 22/08/2026 17:33

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 17:22

He said he had no social media and wasn’t on electoral role either as he was abused by his mother as a child and she had tried to contact him as an adult so he wanted no presence online for her to know where he lived but no I didn’t think of that

And you believed that load of nonsense? If this post is true and not one of mumsnet's AI ones you have had a lucky escape....catfished or what?

Imbusytodaysorry · 22/08/2026 17:35

@Helen123UK I only read half of your post . Please see this for what it is ! This man a couple up big time and a lying cheat .
Whether he had had last minute guilts about you or the wife who knows. It was NOT your fault.
I think you need counseling though . I hate with all the blame and accepting crumbs from men .
Block and delete and don’t look back .

shutityouduffer · 22/08/2026 17:42

LizandDerekGoals · 22/08/2026 13:12

Dear me. 42??????

If everything he has told you is true and I very much doubt it is. you have been texting an uber driver for a week who told you he wants to meet up for sex twice a month and he also has no money to spend on dates.

And you got emotionally invested after ONE WEEK.

👏👏👏👏THIS. Frankly not worth a 5 paragraph post. Dump and move on.

AnneKipankitoo · 22/08/2026 17:47

Dodged a bullet.

Block and delete.

Savoretti · 22/08/2026 17:52

You are very naive

You believe all he tells you, planning how you will manage a relationship when you haven’t even met

TFImBackIn · 22/08/2026 17:59

I'd be amazed if he's actually doing a doctorate.

GoldenNuggets08 · 22/08/2026 17:59

How many red flags can you fit in one story? 100% this man is still with that woman, told you a long list of lies and probably gave you a fake name

TheOnlyWayIsIlford · 22/08/2026 18:03

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 17:22

He said he had no social media and wasn’t on electoral role either as he was abused by his mother as a child and she had tried to contact him as an adult so he wanted no presence online for her to know where he lived but no I didn’t think of that

Oh god he had it all covered, didn’t he? 🤣

I bet his name isn’t even what he told you.

What 42yo man has a job and a long term partner for years and years but isn’t on the mortgage? Splits up just as they ditch job and need support from gf? (Upset, didn’t want to split up) Gf even agrees to support him for 2 years?

And the fact that he blocked you straight away is the act of a coward , not someone who purported to care about ‘you being too good for him ‘ and wants to be a deep and meaningful psychotherapist.

You dodged a bullet.

But your drunken nerdy overwrought behaviour would have put me right off any newly emerging relationship. Messy.

Spend some time thinking about how you got so invested in this lying creep, during a week’s messaging.

AmberPeaches · 22/08/2026 18:04

Surely no one is this gullible?!

TheSunBeatsDown · 22/08/2026 18:09

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 17:22

He said he had no social media and wasn’t on electoral role either as he was abused by his mother as a child and she had tried to contact him as an adult so he wanted no presence online for her to know where he lived but no I didn’t think of that

Oh OP, you need to use the Burned Haystacks dating method so badly, you are very vulnerable.

Spacedsunshine1 · 22/08/2026 18:18

There's red flags all over the place here. You could basically decorate your house with them there are so many. You dodged a bullet

HumptyDump · 22/08/2026 18:24

Deary me. Your updates get worse. You need to read a book on how to get streetwise or something or else you’re in for a torrid time in the OL dating world

Livpool · 22/08/2026 18:25

Helen123UK · 22/08/2026 13:28

He said the still living with his ex is primarily because he hasn’t got the money to rent anywhere… just to add he blocked me after the voice note cancelling the date so he is out the picture

Edited

So he said, you don’t know that.

Livpool · 22/08/2026 18:26

AmberPeaches · 22/08/2026 18:04

Surely no one is this gullible?!

At least one person is…

StarCourt · 22/08/2026 18:39

Op kindly you probably shouldn’t be dating