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Estranged from my autistic university daughter after years of conflict

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YAdaughter · Yesterday 19:22

YA daughter is 20 and at university.

She is autistic as am I. I would say the relationship hasn’t been good for about 5 years.
She was highly controlling of home life. What channel we could watch, and it steadily got worse as teenage years kicked in.

We tried to put in boundaries and basic rules and it just got really bad. Most of the really nasty stuff was directed towards me and not her Dad - he’s a quiet gentle giant.

She would call me a Karen, Terf, even a Tory (I voted labour) and any insult she could think of - I’ve been called mental, controlling, bitch and I’ve even been punched. She was failing at university socially (not academically) and no self care so GP recommended she move back home. It was vile.

Daily insults. No basic rules following. She literally used to say ‘what you looking at bitch? ‘ if I came downstairs in my own home. I’m a Headteacher in my day to day job. I hope I’m a good one and kind and empathetic. She would tell me I was stupid on a daily basis and to chill.

She would leave used sanitary towels left on the floor in the bathroom etc and she just treated us like an ATM. She went out late (3 am) and then phoned as she was on the street in city centre at night etc it wasn’t just what she said it me but how she said it and I kicked her out the following day and offered to book a hotel or something but that I couldn’t do it anymore - I had high blood pressure, panic attacks, and I was very ill. She agreed to leave and go to a friend but wouldn’t tell us which one. And this was a month ago. She said she is safe and won’t tell us where. She says at the moment we haven’t supported her and that we need to understand she wants space and if she wants money or a relationship she will phone. We did contact wellbeing and she had lied as she had said they were supporting her but the university had no record on her.

I lurch from loving her and missing her one minute to wanting to scream at her and hate her the next.

I’m having counselling but it’s not helping. She wanted a huge holiday and back in September we agreed and are due to go on a once in a lifetime safari next week. (She has a younger sister). She has emailed us to say she is 100% not coming as she needs to heal. I’m furious, sad, angry but I’m also glad she isn’t coming and I feel conflicted by that. She won’t talk to my lovely DH or respond to her sibling or grandmother etc DH says I need to focus on me and we need to focus on each other and our family. I’m so angry about the holiday we booked it for her mental health as it was the one she wanted. I feel so angry I’m such a shit mum and I failed to raise a nice person - it’s all on me isn’t it? I tried over the years to get support, diagnosis etc and no one really helped us as she was so clever and masked so heavily out of the home

OP posts:
YAdaughter · Today 20:49

The therapist I’m seeing is highly trained and highly recommended through the NAS I need someone that understands ND and gets me. She is referred to as Gold Standard and after an initial meeting I feel she gets me. Therapy is tough really tough but you have to do the work to change. She is highly trained.

@TimeDoesntStandStill money wise £6000 or slightly more was accommodation fees. She only gets the base loan- so we topped up. The shortfall would have been about £5800 and this is roughly what we were required to pay. We chose to cover more, she won’t be getting that next year. We will pay what we are required to pay end of.

OP posts:
YAdaughter · Today 20:56

Nelly44 · Today 20:24

You need to establish some calm boundaries around your relationship with your daughter.. you’re saying you miss her and feel she is ignoring you but then you’ve shouted in her face to never come back! There has to be a happy medium surely! Now you’re gloating about going away without her. You need to work on yourself before you have any chance of repairing your relationship with your daughter.

Have you read my posts at all? I meant really read them and understood.

I do miss her. I do love her. I can not live with her. I can support her. But going forward it has to be boundaries all the way. I like the phrase loving detachment.

Am I gloating about going on holiday? I’m glad that I’m in the position that I feel able to go two weeks ago I felt unable to go.

OP posts:
ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Today 21:03

YAdaughter · Today 20:56

Have you read my posts at all? I meant really read them and understood.

I do miss her. I do love her. I can not live with her. I can support her. But going forward it has to be boundaries all the way. I like the phrase loving detachment.

Am I gloating about going on holiday? I’m glad that I’m in the position that I feel able to go two weeks ago I felt unable to go.

@YAdaughter ignore posters like that, they appear to be coming from the self centred view of your dd!

BruFord · Today 21:06

@Nelly44 The OP reacted once after years of bullying and abuse. You don't seem to accept that the OP is a victim and that her DD's treatment of her has been appalling- and she IS able to control her behavior, because she only does it to the OP.

YAdaughter · Today 21:07

Thank you for all your responses. I have read them all as has DH.
We are all packed and I’m off to snuggle with DD2 and watch Sargent (?) Stubby and we are packed and ready to go!

OP posts:
Nelly44 · Today 21:08

YAdaughter · Today 20:56

Have you read my posts at all? I meant really read them and understood.

I do miss her. I do love her. I can not live with her. I can support her. But going forward it has to be boundaries all the way. I like the phrase loving detachment.

Am I gloating about going on holiday? I’m glad that I’m in the position that I feel able to go two weeks ago I felt unable to go.

I have read them.. have I understood them absolutely not but I hope you do.

Nelly44 · Today 21:10

BruFord · Today 21:06

@Nelly44 The OP reacted once after years of bullying and abuse. You don't seem to accept that the OP is a victim and that her DD's treatment of her has been appalling- and she IS able to control her behavior, because she only does it to the OP.

Edited

I guess what you’re missing is why a child has reacted the way they have for so many years. It’s easy to blame the adult child but think about the 8 year old child, would you be saying something different then.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Today 21:12

Nelly44 · Today 21:08

I have read them.. have I understood them absolutely not but I hope you do.

Lots of posters are supporting op in her brave stance knowing how difficult this is for, what’s not to understand?
do you think she has to be a punch bag for the dd?

Anotheroner · Today 21:17

YAdaughter · Today 21:07

Thank you for all your responses. I have read them all as has DH.
We are all packed and I’m off to snuggle with DD2 and watch Sargent (?) Stubby and we are packed and ready to go!

Have a wonderful time. You deserve it.

BruFord · Today 22:17

Nelly44 · Today 21:10

I guess what you’re missing is why a child has reacted the way they have for so many years. It’s easy to blame the adult child but think about the 8 year old child, would you be saying something different then.

She is autistic as am I. I would say the relationship hasn’t been good for about 5 years.

@Nelly44 It sounds as if this behavior began when she was 15 and yes, I agree that she needs help, but at 20 she has to make that decision, her parents can't make it for her.

Perhaps her Dad can help guide her, but the OP needs a break from the abuse.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · Today 22:19

Nelly44 · Today 21:10

I guess what you’re missing is why a child has reacted the way they have for so many years. It’s easy to blame the adult child but think about the 8 year old child, would you be saying something different then.

Well of course we'd be saying something different if the child was 8.

She isn't. She's 20.

Is this hard to understand, or something? What is your point?

Prycejosh1987 · Today 22:19

Conflict between family hurts, When family hold grudges and anger its hard to come back from it. I am willing to resolve and tried to, but my family want none of it. I suppose all you can do is try to find common ground. Keep in check from the distance until it gets comfortable.

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