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Boyfriend strange with money

398 replies

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

OP posts:
Silverbirchleaf · Today 14:54

@WildPine write this.

“You are constantly feeling you have to adapt yourself, change your behaviour, lower expectations, bite your tongue, tread on eggshells around him - which means you’re not able to fully be yourself and that’s not healthy for a relationship.”

So true. That’s not the way to go forward.

BoundaryGirl3939 · Today 14:55

Any man that stingy should not be in a relationship.

Bridesmaidorexfriend · Today 14:57

bigboykitty · Today 14:51

What do you think his love language is then?

Quality time?

sunnybaros · Today 14:59

I'm sorry but if he doesn't bring joy and value to your life, he's not the right fit for you.

bigboykitty · Today 15:02

Bridesmaidorexfriend · Today 14:57

Quality time?

Which he destroys with his relentless penny-pinching and plotting? Is it quality time if his only aim is to spend OP's money and resources rather than his own?

Griff1963 · Today 15:05

bigboykitty · Yesterday 23:06

He's stingy. He's ripping off his children and he's destroying your relationship with his meanness. He won't change. You should not accept this.

Bin him! ASAFP!

LouLomumoftwo · Today 15:08

it sounds like he is on the spectrum and dealing with money/gifts etc are difficult for him. It can be confusing when his other traits are positive however, that doesn't mean to say you need to put up with it, i'd be getting really ticked off by this stage if i were you. maybe taking a step back and seeing what this person really means to you, or are you just going along with it for the sake of it? they may not understand your perspective about the whole thing but if you can't get over it then end it

PetrolFrogs · Today 15:16

The barely seeing his kids and thinking £25 per week is enough of a contribution to each one’s care is all I would need to know about him to end it. Does he spend on things for himself or is he just tight with everything?

Bridesmaidorexfriend · Today 15:18

bigboykitty · Today 15:02

Which he destroys with his relentless penny-pinching and plotting? Is it quality time if his only aim is to spend OP's money and resources rather than his own?

Edited

To be fair I didn’t see OP say he tried to get out of paying his half, she said he was sweet. Each to their own, I don’t really have a problem with going halves on petrol or each buying your own food rather than taking it in turns, if I enjoy their company there’s no expectation that they’ll pay for me. And I’d know where we both stood. It is impacting OPs enjoyment of his company though.

We don’t know why he’s like this, maybe autism, maybe he’s in a lot of debt and is constantly worried about money. Not OPs problem but a lot of responses saying he should ever be in a relationship are a bit OTT

Dragonflyspeeding · Today 15:22

How sweet can this stingy person be for you to put up with him.

There is nothing ‘confusing’ about him. He’s mean in every sense of the word.

Jesus. Give yourself a chance of a happy life and ditch him.

Anywherebuthere · Today 15:29

His ex has had a lucky escape.

He is showing you clearly what he is. Unromantic, stingy and now sulky too after you've tried to make it easier for him.

Don't settle for him and his behaviour. Everyone deserves better than this.

Esmeraldathe3rd · Today 15:39

Can't for the life of me think why his ex wife wouldn't fuck him. A mother to disabled kids with a husband that doesn't want to do anything with or for them, or her. And complains that he's expected to shock! Horror! work and provide.

What a catch OP. throw it back.

He's selfish, and lazy, and doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. Who the fuck buys their girlfriend a pack of socks for Christmas. Who the fuck says "your gift is that you don't have to contribute to petrol."

OneFineDay22 · Today 15:58

DeadBug · Today 14:38

You sound lovely op, but you definitely have to raise your standards.
I wouldn't have gone near a man that won't pay for his own children ( I can't work out how it could possibly be only £200 ish pm maintenance?).
Apart from that, anyone who comes around with a take out just for themselves should be turned out immediately. No question 😂.
The rest is irrelevant because it shouldn't have got that far.

I think he must be paying off debts in order for it to be so low on his salary. It’s possible that he got into debt because of his ex-wife, but he’s been so manipulative and playing the victim with OP that it wouldn’t surprise me if he was just blaming the ex.

QueenietheGreat · Today 16:01

@Midfortiescamb
He's stingy and mean
And it's not going to improve
Seeing money as some sort of powergrab to hold onto
He's a corrosive personality so
If I were you I'd leave.
In your message you sounded stressed as well as wondering
Well wonder no more

Tootsiroll · Today 16:06

I'm skipping the vast majority of posts here since I'm late to the conversation.

I'd swear this man is on the spectrum to some degree, his actions seem dictated my misapplied logic that probably makes perfect sense to him but are actually a bit off for you. (Or way wayyyy off)

I'm not getting "selfish asshole" vibes from your initial post but then, I'm not there dealing with him so who knows.

If he is on the spectrum and he would be undiagnosed if he were then it's a difficult choice on what to do.

My very good friend is on the spectrum, she's honest to a fault, completely trustworthy, blunt as you like and the most loyal person I know. She got me a packet of hankies for my birthday because one day in her company I mentioned I kept loosing mine. I got six tubs of Twigletts and three boxes of After Eights one Christmas because she knows I only eat them during the holiday season. She also hates giving gifts because she "always gets it wrong"

If he's just tight with money and you don't love the man enough to deal with it, and he's not willing to work together to find a solution, then I'm betting at least half the posts here will tell you to dump him.

sassyclassyandsmartassy · Today 16:06

£50k and £200 CMS, bull… he needs to do that calculation through that site again! We have DSS more than that, there is only one of him, my DH earns less than that and pays more each month under the calculation.

That being said paying the bear minimum is also taking the proverbial. I hope he also covers other things directly for his kids like we do for DSS.

If not there is your answer, if he’s like that with people who are half of who is it tells you all you need to know!

bigboykitty · Today 16:11

He's paying nowhere near the CMS minimum in child maintenance. At least £350 per month short. He's probably told his ex that if she doesn't accept £200 he'll go for 50/50. To be honest most women would probably accept nothing, in order to spare their children being exposed to this weirdo.

80smonster · Today 16:11

I would guess he is autistic also. I don’t suppose it matters that there is a financial imbalance if those involved are comfortable. In your shoes, I would call it for what it is and say to him ‘You are a nice man, but we are financially incompatible’. You need to cast yourself forward with this, how would this relationship grow? Assuming eventually you lived together, would this pattern make you sad? Going 50/50 isn’t problematic to my mind, but he sounds too broke for that.

SqueakyFromme · Today 16:26

@bigboykitty its shameful, I wouldn't even want a man like that near me

mindutopia · Today 16:26

Chuck this one back. I could not be doing with this. Dh and I were skint as shit when we first met, long distance for 2+ years a long haul flight away from each other. Whoever flew to stay with the other for 2 weeks to 2 months at a time paid for their flight and the other covered most of the other expenses, the food shopping, the petrol, the electric bills, whatever. Obviously, we’d pay for our own small day to day expenses, but never occurred to me to halfsy everything. Neither of us had loads of money but we looked after each other and didn’t keep score.

I have never given a boyfriend petrol money in my life. In fact, I’ve never give or accepted petrol money from anyone at all in my life! Is this really a thing people do? Sounds really mean. I can see a girls weekend away with 600 miles of driving that everyone would split the cost and pay £50 each or whatever. But I would never think to give someone £2 for driving me to Boots. And I’d be freaked out if someone offered it. That’s cheap as all hell.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · Today 16:26

Midfortiescamb · Today 07:03

Less than £20

I hate to conform to a MN stereotype and I'd usually write a long post explaining it, but

LTB

TinyCottageGirl · Today 16:30

Honestly I cannot stand anyone who is mean with their money, absolute cringe. He won't change so if this is an issue then get out now or he will constantly make you feel guilty and you will end up subsidising his life to avoid the awkwardness.

LasVegass · Today 16:30

I’m fascinated, in a horrified kind of way, about how the petrol money is exchanged. So I did a 5 mile return journey today and the car app tells me this was £1.59. Would you go halves on that, always keeping loose change on you?

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