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Boyfriend strange with money

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Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:00

My boyfriend is confusing me. Been together about 1.5 years, both 47, divorced. I have three kids, shared custody, he has two who are 15 and 12 and he sees every other weekend. He's lovely with my kids and easy to be around, bit over chatty but fine. He's generally kind and patient and has gotten over pushing us to live together which was driven by the fact that he hates paying rent but has now put an offer in on buying his own house. There's a money issue though and I've tried to be fair and patient...on our first date he didn't take his card out to pay, so I did and he later said he liked that I didn't expect him to pay (I didn't tbh but told myself why should the man pay). He paid for our second date in a simple Vietnamese place but I could feel his tension shuffling his cards choosing which one. But he was sweet so we carried on. Our first road trip he drove so I offered petrol money, he accepted and from then on it was clear I'd pay half for petrol. Meals were always split. I spoiled him as I like to on his bday in a lovely restaurant and gifts etc. On my bday he got me a pair of earrings on sale on Etsy which were pretty and took me to a restaurant but tensely said 'is this the kind of place you get starters' so I obviously said no need and only got a cheap main. He told me the other part of my gift was he'd take me for a hike and I wouldn't have to pay half for petrol. He cried a bit the next morning after I was honest after he asked me were the gifts not good and I gently said that petrol thing wasn't really normal. A few weeks later when he said he wanted to see me so would go to his fave Chinese on the way and bring it to mine without offering to get me some I calmly told him I'm struggling with this constant splitting of things, he should trust that I'm not after his money and I took him out to celebrate his new job etc. I am a generous person. To make up for the bday he bought me flowers but mentioned how they're good value in Morrissons, where they were from. Fast forward to this bday coming up in two weeks...I was honestly so nervous about him spoiling it so I booked myself a cottage in Wales for a couple of days and it hurt him but I told him to please not take it personally. My ex husband upset me on my bdays and I could do with a couple of days to myself but really, I know boyfriend isn't good at romance and I couldn't face another awkward meal. Anyway, twice over the last few weeks he has mentioned how he budgeted for my present (a hot water bottle) last month so this month he's budgeting for the meal. He earns £50k and only gives his ex wife the amount the child support calculator asks of him which is around £200 ish per month, he says because she gets children's allowance: not my business but I do think kids cost more and his daughter is autistic so needs therapy. Anyway, he then asked whether I want to go to the restaurants i took him to on my bday, I said, please - you choose. He said 'I'll just take you to the one you took me to'. I said to him, my love, please can we just not do bdays, anniversaries, Xmas (he got me a five pack of socks)...let's free ourselves, there's something awkward/tense with money and its making me uncomfortable, feeling like work/burden. He got very upset and said he couldn't feel more hurt or empty and is now not really talking to me! Its been 2 days. I told him he'd never expressed any kind of excitement about my bday and I just don't want this heaviness. There are just so many money orientated odd things...like he bought me pink salt and I said it was lovely and he said '£1'. I know his ex wife said he was controlling about money but he said she expected him to be the bread winner and was financially abusive: obviously I don't know the full story. It all just feels so awkward and I don't like how he's gone cold. Otherwise he's very affectionate and sweet....not selfish in bed but a bit predictable. Anyway....thoughts?

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RoseJam · Yesterday 23:25

Run.

There is a saying 'When people show you who they are, believe them'.

Stingy people who are mean with money are also mean with love.

You're worth much more.

Chipschaos · Yesterday 23:30

What a tight wad. It will just get worse and worse.

You remind me of a friend who is in a similar situation. Penny pincher who tells her what she can and can't order in restaurants and has an anger problem to boot. I want to tell her how awful his behavior is but I'm keeping out of it.

FetchezLaVache · Yesterday 23:31

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:19

Brilliantly said. Thank you for being so straight. What should my standards be? I had an abusive ex husband, I am in therapy so can actively focus on this.

Your standards should be what you would want for your children.

He wanted to move in with you (to save himself money) but you resisted - so there's a good start. I imagine that was driven by the knowledge that his moving in early on wouldn't be the right thing for your children. You're clearly an excellent mother, so just view everything through the prism of what's right for your children - the treatment you wouldn't want them to accept, the behaviours you don't want modelling to them. If it's not good enough for them, it's not good enough for you.

Happyjoe · Yesterday 23:33

Did you write about your petrol and walk present before? I am sure it rings a bell.

Anyway, I just don't think you're well suited and it's causing you ill feeling, life is too short for this. Plus anyone who doesn't talk to their partner is a bit immature, your suggestion about not doing gifts etc in the future was quite a good one. He's not valuing you with thoughtful gifts (not about money) and he obviously doesn't like spending out so it should've been a good thing to agree to.

CombatBarbie · Yesterday 23:34

I wonder how his savings look.......

OneNewEagle · Yesterday 23:35

You aren’t suited, he should be spoiling you. I have had exs ruin my birthdays too over the years.

finish with him and go and enjoy you cottage for your birthday.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · Yesterday 23:37

Good grief ! he must have a golden dick for you to have been with him this long and put up with all that.
Life is too short !

Do you really want to spend your next 47 years like this ? it seems like you have spent 1.5 years too long with him already.

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:39

FetchezLaVache · Yesterday 23:31

Your standards should be what you would want for your children.

He wanted to move in with you (to save himself money) but you resisted - so there's a good start. I imagine that was driven by the knowledge that his moving in early on wouldn't be the right thing for your children. You're clearly an excellent mother, so just view everything through the prism of what's right for your children - the treatment you wouldn't want them to accept, the behaviours you don't want modelling to them. If it's not good enough for them, it's not good enough for you.

Thank you very much. That means a lot. My children are my world and I have a wonderful career in medicine caring for patients. He just sent me a cold message saying we need to talk but not tonight, I said not for a while thanks! I'm going to focus on my babies and patients. Just sad I introduced them to him and they will need to see another break up.

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Chilly80 · Yesterday 23:39

That just gives me the ick

crikeymikey123 · Yesterday 23:43

Yes stingy with money and stingy with love.
You don't need that Op, you sound lovely and generous.

Happyjoe · Yesterday 23:48

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:39

Thank you very much. That means a lot. My children are my world and I have a wonderful career in medicine caring for patients. He just sent me a cold message saying we need to talk but not tonight, I said not for a while thanks! I'm going to focus on my babies and patients. Just sad I introduced them to him and they will need to see another break up.

And focus on you, what you want. Give yourself some tlc. Go easy.

bluebirdsandblueskies · Yesterday 23:52

OP please leave him and go and live a wonderful life. You sound fabulous and you deserve much, much more and if you can’t find that don’t settle just spend your money on yourself x

LasVegass · Yesterday 23:52

That’s really tight. I get it that £50k doesn’t go that far when you’re buying a new house but the constant commenting on money is more off-putting than the meanness of the presents. And he still doesn’t seem to get it.

AlbieJiggered · Yesterday 23:54

I've had some shit presents from men but a 5-pack of socks and a hot water bottle are off the scale.

LizandDerekGoals · Yesterday 23:56

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:39

Thank you very much. That means a lot. My children are my world and I have a wonderful career in medicine caring for patients. He just sent me a cold message saying we need to talk but not tonight, I said not for a while thanks! I'm going to focus on my babies and patients. Just sad I introduced them to him and they will need to see another break up.

Stay strong. He is a shit option

Midfortiescamb · Yesterday 23:57

AlbieJiggered · Yesterday 23:54

I've had some shit presents from men but a 5-pack of socks and a hot water bottle are off the scale.

Made me howl. It is truly crap hahaa

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Viviennemary · Yesterday 23:57

He is a total skinflint to the point of weirdness. Its not normal. Get rid.That would be my advice.

levitational · Yesterday 23:58

bluebirdsandblueskies · Yesterday 23:52

OP please leave him and go and live a wonderful life. You sound fabulous and you deserve much, much more and if you can’t find that don’t settle just spend your money on yourself x

Totally this. Aside from the money issue and his tendency to misread/not spot emotional cues, what you say about the sex life you have with him doesn't sound all that. If you're going to invest yourself and your time in a romantic/sexual relationship, surely you want the sex to be really, really good – don't you deserve that?

Onceuponatime32 · Yesterday 23:59

A hike for your birthday 😳

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:01

levitational · Yesterday 23:58

Totally this. Aside from the money issue and his tendency to misread/not spot emotional cues, what you say about the sex life you have with him doesn't sound all that. If you're going to invest yourself and your time in a romantic/sexual relationship, surely you want the sex to be really, really good – don't you deserve that?

I really do. And you know what, he had bad erectile dysfunction for our first six months due to years of sexual rejection from his wife and I was so compassionate and helped him get back to great function. Asshole!!!!

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RosaMundi27 · Today 00:02

He's mean, which is a type of controlling behaviour. You'll never be able to relax knowing that he's literally counting pennies on every occasion, meal, trip etc. etc. He's probably got a huge amount of savings. I've known people like him - they are utter joy sponges: everything is costed and weighed up. End it now and look elsewhere for generosity.

PenelopeJoanSterling · Today 00:02

debts ? eg choosing the card to pay on ?

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:03

Onceuponatime32 · Yesterday 23:59

A hike for your birthday 😳

Not just a hike: I didn't have to pay half for petrol that time or petrol station lunch! I just don't get why he wept when I told him it was shit.

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BelieveInCher · Today 00:03

Seriously OP? Stop lowering your standards for this man. He sounds stingy, manipulative and pathetic. He was going to come over to yours with a takeaway just for himself and did not want petrol money from you as a birthday treat?! Really? Is this all you think you deserve?

BelieveInCher · Today 00:04

Midfortiescamb · Today 00:03

Not just a hike: I didn't have to pay half for petrol that time or petrol station lunch! I just don't get why he wept when I told him it was shit.

Because he’s manipulating you to feel sorry for him so you carry on lowering your standards and expectations. This is the honeymoon phase…